Game 33: New York Rangers @ Boston Bruins 12/16/17 - 5pm - MSG2
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Posted 2017-12-16 8:41 AM (#690447)
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Rangers (17-12-3, 37 pts) at Bruins (15-10-4, 34 pts)
5 pm; TD Garden
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The Game

The Rangers have to turn the page quickly on Friday's impressive 4-2 victory over the Los Angeles Kings, as they're back in action today in Boston against the Bruins at 5 pm.

The Blueshirts never trailed in Friday's win over the Pacific-leading Kings. Four different players found the back of the net, including Rick Nash's game-winner with 3:27 left in the third period. Henrik Lundqvistmade 33 saves to earn his 15th victory of the year.

With the back-to-back and the earlier start time, goaltender Ondrej Pavelec could get the start against the Bruins. No other lineup changes are expected.

Saturday marks the second of three meetings between New York and Boston, with the Rangers taking the first, 4-2, at The Garden back on Nov. 8.

The Bruins enter today's game with seven wins in their last 10 contests, though they're coming off a 5-3 loss to the Capitals Thursday evening. They're currently third in the Atlantic Division, seven points behind Toronto for the second spot.

David Pastrnak is leading the team with 29 points in 29 games, followed closely by Brad Marchand's 26, though in just 21 games this season. Goaltender Tuukka Rask is back after an early season injury limited his time. He's expected to get the start and enters the game with an 8-8-2 record to go along with a 2.41 GAA and a .914 SV%.

Players to Watch

David Desharnais knows the Bruins well from his time in Montreal. In fact, No. 51 has more goals (eight), assists (16) and points (24) against Boston than any other team he's face in his NHL career. Desharnais has a point in 11 of his last 16 games against the Bruins, and comes into today's matchup with assists in his last two games overall.

Marchand is unlike any player in the NHL in that he's effective offensively while still being a sandpaper-type of player who teams hate to play against. The 29-year-old is red-hot with points in seven straight, with four goals during that span and four multi-point performances. He also picked up 12 PIMs Thursday against the Capitals and had a major penalty for a hit on the Islanders' John Tavares last week.

Rangers Projected Lineup

Chris Kreider - David Desharnais - Pavel Buchnevich
Rick Nash - J.T. Miller - Mats Zuccarello
Michael Grabner - Kevin Hayes - Jesper Fast
Paul Carey - Boo Nieves - Jimmy Vesey

Ryan McDonagh - Nick Holden
Brady Skjei - Kevin Shattenkirk
Marc Staal - Brendan Smith

Inside the Numbers

The Blueshirts have earned a win in each of their last six games against Boston, dating back to Jan. 11, 2016, and the Rangers have outscored the Bruins, 23-10, in the six contests. New York has won at least six consecutive games against Boston for the first time since an eight-game winning streak from Nov. 20, 2005 to Mar. 24, 2007.

Since Mar. 24, 2007, 25 of the 37 meetings between the Rangers and Bruins have been decided by one goal, and eight of those contests have been decided in either overtime or a shootout. In addition, 31 of the 37 meetings over the span have been decided by two or fewer goals.

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Posted 2017-12-16 8:47 AM (#690448 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 10:09 AM (#690449 - in reply to #690447)
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%pm EST dam whats that i n metric lol. 2pm doh, hate Boston.
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%pm EST dam whats that i n metric lol. 2pm doh, hate Boston.


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%pm EST dam whats that i n metric lol. 2pm doh, hate Boston.


Blue404, is that you?





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Posted 2017-12-16 3:02 PM (#690453 - in reply to #690447)
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What Rangers team shows up tonight, Dr Jekyll or the Mr Hydes??
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Posted 2017-12-16 3:06 PM (#690454 - in reply to #690447)
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Great photo up top. In today's game that's a hook on Ratty. Back then it was called checking your opposite number. Looks like Westfall with the puck.

AV playing 35 year old Henrik in two games in less than 24 hours. Brilliant!
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Posted 2017-12-16 3:14 PM (#690457 - in reply to #690456)
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PV29 - 2017-12-16 2:06 PM

Great photo up top. In today's game that's a hook on Ratty. Back then it was called checking your opposite number. Looks like Westfall with the puck.

AV playing 35 year old Henrik in two games in less than 24 hours. Brilliant!





That looks like Dick Redmond in the pic also. As far as Lundqvist goes another notch in Chewys list of dumb things done.
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Great photo up top. In today's game that's a hook on Ratty. Back then it was called checking your opposite number. Looks like Westfall with the puck.

AV playing 35 year old Henrik in two games in less than 24 hours. Brilliant!





That looks like Dick Redmond in the pic also. As far as Lundqvist goes another notch in Chewys list of dumb things done.


Ace Bailey.
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Posted 2017-12-16 3:26 PM (#690461 - in reply to #690447)
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13 should take a shot instead he passed the puck
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Posted 2017-12-16 3:29 PM (#690462 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 3:30 PM (#690463 - in reply to #690447)
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The Rangers defensive coverage near their crease is even uglier than the "holiday suits" the Bruins wore to the game today.
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Posted 2017-12-16 3:32 PM (#690465 - in reply to #690447)
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Sam is a Jew and he doesn’t celebrate Christmas.,Joe.

Merry Christmas blue lol!
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Posted 2017-12-16 3:32 PM (#690467 - in reply to #690447)
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Chris Mullins would be proud. Use the glass to bank it in.
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Posted 2017-12-16 3:32 PM (#690468 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 3:34 PM (#690469 - in reply to #690447)
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Goes to prove just SHOOT the puck cause anything can happen
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Posted 2017-12-16 3:34 PM (#690470 - in reply to #690447)
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Grabner has the horse shoe about as far up and in as it will go.
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Posted 2017-12-16 3:36 PM (#690471 - in reply to #690460)
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Steady Eddie - 2017-12-16 2:23 PM

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PV29 - 2017-12-16 2:06 PM

Great photo up top. In today's game that's a hook on Ratty. Back then it was called checking your opposite number. Looks like Westfall with the puck.

AV playing 35 year old Henrik in two games in less than 24 hours. Brilliant!





That looks like Dick Redmond in the pic also. As far as Lundqvist goes another notch in Chewys list of dumb things done.


Ace Bailey.



I believe you are correctumundo,
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Sam is a Jew and he doesn’t celebrate Christmas.,Joe.

Merry Christmas blue lol!
Merry Christmas,Mike.My phone - done by left aholes at Apple- didn’t want to write Christmas properly.
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Posted 2017-12-16 3:37 PM (#690473 - in reply to #690470)
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Rranger - 2017-12-16 5:34 PM

Grabner has the horse shoe about as far up and in as it will go.


LOL!
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Posted 2017-12-16 3:38 PM (#690474 - in reply to #690447)
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Pussy league penalty. You don’t even have to be tough or have balls to play in this glorified junior hockey league anymore.
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Posted 2017-12-16 3:39 PM (#690475 - in reply to #690472)
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Blue404 - 2017-12-16 5:31 PM

Sam is a Jew and he doesn’t celebrate Christmas.,Joe.

Merry Christmas blue lol!
Merry Christmas,Mike.My phone - done by left aholes at Apple- didn’t want to write Christmas properly.

Haha ...where are the 2 helpers?
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Posted 2017-12-16 3:39 PM (#690476 - in reply to #690469)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-12-16 5:34 PM

Goes to prove just SHOOT the puck cause anything can happen


Hits legs, skates, butts, caroms off the glass .... Goalies make mistakes too. If you hit the net while not hitting the goalie's chest, goals happen.
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Posted 2017-12-16 3:44 PM (#690477 - in reply to #690476)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-12-16 5:34 PM

Goes to prove just SHOOT the puck cause anything can happen


Hits legs, skates, butts, caroms off the glass .... Goalies make mistakes too. If you hit the net while not hitting the goalie's chest, goals happen.


Telling all the Ranger players who choose to pass instead of shooting all the time
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Posted 2017-12-16 3:58 PM (#690478 - in reply to #690447)
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Vally was talking about Grabner and a new contract...What's the consensus do we want him back?

I say yes but it's hard to gauge what his contract value is 5 - 5.25M / ?
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Posted 2017-12-16 4:03 PM (#690479 - in reply to #690447)
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Shattenkirk coughing the puck up again. We need a nickname for this guy.
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Posted 2017-12-16 4:04 PM (#690482 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 4:04 PM (#690483 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 4:05 PM (#690485 - in reply to #690447)
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Av probably taking a dump and missed his best all round center potting one.
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Posted 2017-12-16 4:15 PM (#690487 - in reply to #690478)
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Pierre_Pdare - 2017-12-16 5:58 PM

Vally was talking about Grabner and a new contract...What's the consensus do we want him back?

I say yes but it's hard to gauge what his contract value is 5 - 5.25M / ?

Always liked his game. Great speed and a quiet physical game. He's surprisingly strong on his skates. Keep him unless the price is above 5M
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Posted 2017-12-16 4:19 PM (#690489 - in reply to #690447)
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Not Nashs' best there
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Posted 2017-12-16 4:19 PM (#690490 - in reply to #690447)
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Rangers may have as many as 9 forwards with 20+ goals this season. Usually, such scoring depth up front means that you're a Cup contender.

Unless you have AV running and designing your defense and defensive personnel.
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Posted 2017-12-16 4:21 PM (#690492 - in reply to #690489)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-12-16 6:19 PM

Not Nashs' best there


Rask just got burned on a backhand move by Miller. Can't expect that to work again right afterwards. Just shoot, like last night.
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Posted 2017-12-16 4:22 PM (#690495 - in reply to #690447)
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You can't take a penalty there


They could have called a couple on the Bruins
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Usually it’s the Rangers pinned in their end. Well done boys.
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The midget with the bonehead play of the month.
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Joe with a nice play by play on replacing hanks stick. Lol
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Posted 2017-12-16 4:33 PM (#690505 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 4:37 PM (#690506 - in reply to #690505)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-12-16 6:33 PM

51 will be replaced by 93

But who's going to replace 22?

Lol hopefully Trouba
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Posted 2017-12-16 4:58 PM (#690509 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 4:59 PM (#690510 - in reply to #690447)
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Quick zip between periods to the lumber yard for a sheet of plywood to floor my new small aluminum boat. You can’t get there that quick can you mikey?

hahaha Lumber yard by me is closed by now lol...Its 5 min from here
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:03 PM (#690512 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:04 PM (#690513 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:04 PM (#690514 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:05 PM (#690515 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:06 PM (#690516 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:06 PM (#690517 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:07 PM (#690518 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:07 PM (#690519 - in reply to #690447)
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How do you leave Marchand all alone like that? AV defensive system. That's how.

#FireAV
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:07 PM (#690520 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:08 PM (#690521 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:09 PM (#690522 - in reply to #690447)
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Staal and Holden seem to always be in no mans land on the PK. That being said 22 doesn't see 1 second of PK time, what does that say about his defensive play?
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:12 PM (#690523 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:12 PM (#690524 - in reply to #690522)
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Staal and Holden seem to always be in no mans land on the PK. That being said 22 doesn't see 1 second of PK time, what does that say about his defensive play?




The problem is they are where chewy wants them. Collapsing on the puck is well and good but you can’t leave a guy like Marchand alone when you do.
There is nothing to say about Shattenkirks defense.
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:13 PM (#690525 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:14 PM (#690526 - in reply to #690524)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-12-16 4:09 PM

Staal and Holden seem to always be in no mans land on the PK. That being said 22 doesn't see 1 second of PK time, what does that say about his defensive play?




The problem is they are where chewy wants them. Collapsing on the puck is well and good but you can’t leave a guy like Marchand alone when you do.
There is nothing to say about Shattenkirks defense.


Do you mean nothing good to say?
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:15 PM (#690527 - in reply to #690526)
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Rranger - 2017-12-16 5:12 PM

Rangerjunkie - 2017-12-16 4:09 PM

Staal and Holden seem to always be in no mans land on the PK. That being said 22 doesn't see 1 second of PK time, what does that say about his defensive play?




The problem is they are where chewy wants them. Collapsing on the puck is well and good but you can’t leave a guy like Marchand alone when you do.
There is nothing to say about Shattenkirks defense.


Do you mean nothing good to say?




Yes nada good to say.
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:17 PM (#690528 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:18 PM (#690529 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:20 PM (#690530 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:22 PM (#690531 - in reply to #690447)
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See that ...Shatt chickens out and lets the Bruin take the puck into the zone and almost goes around him...then takes a penalty
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:22 PM (#690532 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:23 PM (#690533 - in reply to #690447)
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I think every player in the league knows you can beat Shattenkirk wide. It’s becoming painfully obvious it’s going to continue.
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:23 PM (#690534 - in reply to #690447)
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22 should sit a game. The same way Smith did earlier
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:24 PM (#690535 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:25 PM (#690536 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:25 PM (#690537 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:26 PM (#690538 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:26 PM (#690539 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:27 PM (#690540 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:27 PM (#690541 - in reply to #690447)
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I think he is moveable this year. Maybe a dumb team will think his offence will overpower the stench of his defense. Got to be more than the Caps and the Rangers, no? Maybe at the deadline.
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:27 PM (#690542 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:29 PM (#690543 - in reply to #690541)
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I think he is moveable this year. Maybe a dumb team will think his offence will overpower the stench of his defense. Got to be more than the Caps and the Rangers, no? Maybe at the deadline.


We could hope, although he's not doing much offensively over the last 13-15 games or so.Just 4 assists
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:33 PM (#690544 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:33 PM (#690545 - in reply to #690542)
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Skjei who has been very good, could be so much better if he didn't have cover for 22's defensive liabilities




Another reason I didn’t want Shattenkirk, he stifles Skjei’s growth in particular power play time.
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:34 PM (#690546 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:35 PM (#690547 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:36 PM (#690548 - in reply to #690547)
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Foxwoods Holden final minute


Hahaha
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:36 PM (#690549 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:37 PM (#690550 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:37 PM (#690551 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:39 PM (#690552 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:39 PM (#690553 - in reply to #690447)
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22 highest paid dman on the Rangers, and continues to play the least amount of minutes of them all.....

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Posted 2017-12-16 5:39 PM (#690554 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:40 PM (#690555 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:40 PM (#690556 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:40 PM (#690557 - in reply to #690553)
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22 highest paid dman on the Rangers, and continues to play the least amount of minutes of them all.....

Keys to success

Rangers Management at its best
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:40 PM (#690558 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:41 PM (#690559 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:41 PM (#690560 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:42 PM (#690561 - in reply to #690547)
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Mikey Red - 2017-12-16 7:35 PM

Foxwoods Holden final minute


Holden tried to put it in front in the last minute, but McDonagh grabbed the puck and cleared it.

Holden Time!
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:42 PM (#690562 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:42 PM (#690563 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:42 PM (#690564 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:42 PM (#690565 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:42 PM (#690566 - in reply to #690447)
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Why is Dubonet on the PP in OT?

****ing AV.
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:43 PM (#690568 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:43 PM (#690570 - in reply to #690447)
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Did anyone notice the rack behind the bench (*)(*)

Hahaha I was gonna write the same thing lol
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Did anyone notice the rack behind the bench (*)(*)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:44 PM (#690574 - in reply to #690447)
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:45 PM (#690575 - in reply to #690447)
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That's why I get so pissed when Zuc passes instead of shooting. His wrister is stupid good.
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Did anyone notice the rack behind the bench (*)(*)










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Why is Dubonet on the PP in OT?

****ing AV.





Why is he on the team.?
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Posted 2017-12-16 5:48 PM (#690579 - in reply to #690447)
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Kreider giving Zucc the adult to a little kid jump on me wave. Lol.
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Pierre_Pdare - 2017-12-16 7:42 PM

Did anyone notice the rack behind the bench (*)(*)

She looks friendly!
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Posted 2017-12-16 7:24 PM (#690583 - in reply to #690447)
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Read online he meant to do it, that's what I thought. I rewatched it a few times, I think it was planned, a practiced shot. Wow, & it worked.
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PV29 - 2017-12-16 3:19 PM

Rangers may have as many as 9 forwards with 20+ goals this season. Usually, such scoring depth up front means that you're a Cup contender.

Unless you have AV running and designing your defense and defensive personnel.






Rangers are in real good shape up front. Get Zib back get rid of shorty and add a guy who can play up and down the lineup and there good to go up front. Whoever is slapping chewy and helping him with the lines is doing a good job and needs to keep doing it. On defense Shattenkirk is a nightmare usually costing the Rangers at least a goal a game. Smith has plenty of warts to and the Rangers will not be able challenge for a wide open conference title with both of those guys on defense. Rangers got some serious upgrading to do on defenseman if they expect to go anywhere.

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Posted 2017-12-17 6:14 AM (#690586 - in reply to #690581)
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LeetchyMrRanger - 2017-12-16 7:03 PM

I looked @ that Grabner goal a few times, does it look calculated to any one else? It looks like something he did on purpose. May be something he practices & tried it?


I would doubt it was something planned, you can never predict how the puck is going to bounce of the glass.
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Posted 2017-12-17 6:51 AM (#690587 - in reply to #690447)
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It might've been planned..... I don't think he planned for it to bank right in off the goalie, but he very well could have meant to shoot it into the glass and be the first guy to the puck.... whether it deflects to the side of the net... right out in front.... if it didn't hit Rask, Grabs was ready to bat it out of mid air

It's just like designing a play to get the rebound a goalie leaves off his pads.... except it's the boards.


.... either that or he missed on his shot that he meant to go top shelf... he missed high on accident, and lucked out

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Posted 2017-12-17 7:41 AM (#690588 - in reply to #690581)
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LeetchyMrRanger - 2017-12-16 6:03 PM

I looked @ that Grabner goal a few times, does it look calculated to any one else? It looks like something he did on purpose. May be something he practices & tried it?






No it does not. Looks more like shut house luck.
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Posted 2017-12-17 9:40 AM (#690591 - in reply to #690519)
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PV29 - 2017-12-16 7:07 PM

How do you leave Marchand all alone like that? AV defensive system. That's how.

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much as I'd like to say that was AVs system, that's typical Staal following the skater all the way across the ice
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Posted 2017-12-17 9:44 AM (#690592 - in reply to #690565)
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how could one not notice
Pierre_Pdare - 2017-12-16 7:42 PM

Did anyone notice the rack behind the bench (*)(*)
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Posted 2017-12-17 10:19 AM (#690593 - in reply to #690591)
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PV29 - 2017-12-16 7:07 PM

How do you leave Marchand all alone like that? AV defensive system. That's how.

#FireAV


much as I'd like to say that was AVs system, that's typical Staal following the skater all the way across the ice





I agree with PV on this one. Rangers collapse around the puck carrier, in a box in short handed and even strength situations. And have forever under chewy. Many back door pp goals have been scored on the Rangers this season, but they bravely forge on with the dumbness. I guess chewy has never heard of keeping a man in front no matter what and attack the puck carrier with triangulation. I don't get not identifying a problem and dealing with it.

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Posted 2017-12-17 6:56 PM (#690596 - in reply to #690447)
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Ok, enough with that girl unless some one can post a pic.
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LeetchyMrRanger - 2017-12-17 5:56 PM

Ok, enough with that girl unless some one can post a pic.




Check the highlights you might get a glimpse of her and her guns behind the rangers bench.
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Posted 2017-12-18 7:56 AM (#690604 - in reply to #690600)
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Rranger - 2017-12-17 11:28 PM

LeetchyMrRanger - 2017-12-17 5:56 PM

Ok, enough with that girl unless some one can post a pic.




Check the highlights you might get a glimpse of her and her guns behind the rangers bench.


Figures -- nothing but a bunch of lust buckets hanging out here.
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Posted 2017-12-19 3:51 PM (#690636 - in reply to #690593)
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PV29 - 2017-12-16 7:07 PM

How do you leave Marchand all alone like that? AV defensive system. That's how.

#FireAV


much as I'd like to say that was AVs system, that's typical Staal following the skater all the way across the ice





I agree with PV on this one. Rangers collapse around the puck carrier, in a box in short handed and even strength situations. And have forever under chewy. Many back door pp goals have been scored on the Rangers this season, but they bravely forge on with the dumbness. I guess chewy has never heard of keeping a man in front no matter what and attack the puck carrier with triangulation. I don't get not identifying a problem and dealing with it.


It happens every game, two players drop low and leave someone open out front. It's part of the backcheck system they employ.

I'll tell you the reasoning behind this system, although I wlll say up front that my opinion is that it's a generally poor system for most game situations.

In short, the point of dropping two guys to pressure the puck carrier, is to cause a turnover and for the other guy to be in a position to regain puck possession immediately. This is very hard to do one on one, in part because forwards these days are incredibly talented, and the rules are especially strict regarding clutching, grabbing, etc. So by sending one guy, the best you can do is hope that you can contain him to the outside, or he makes a low percentage pass.

Sending two is a much more aggressive play, it cuts down significantly on the forward's skate and pass options, and you recover the puck quickly and can transition quickly, which is the basis for the Rangers' game plan. Catch the opposing defensemen out of position/flat footed, and you can create a scoring opportunity. In order to do this you must be able to take the puck away and start the transition immediately - in the NHL giving a defenseman two strides (about a second) means he can get back in a much better defensive position and your advantage is gone. That's all it takes, so you want to use that second advantage.

The problem is it's a high risk, low reward system, especially for 5v5 and close game situations. If you're down one goal late, then sure, do it. You're going to lose otherwise. And usually if you have an aggressive backcheck like that it's incumbent on another forward to drop back and help out. The downside to this is, you have one fewer forward to outlet to in a transition game. Every decision has a cost. Every additional player you give more defensive responsibility to, is one less effective forward player in a rush.

The Rangers/AV probably chose this system because they are trying to build the team on speed and possession, which in today's NHL, is the right decision. Also, they have Lundqvist who bails them out of this system more often than he should. So they may have just said let's have a more aggressive backcheck and hopefully we can spring Kreider/Grabner/Nash and get more odd man rushes the other way. Sometimes it works. Other times it looks like a complete breakdown.

It's not an inherently bad system, but it should be employed in very game specific situations, and I also don't think the Rangers have great personnel to execute this as a full time, 5v5 system. And like I said, when they mess it up, it looks terrible. But the next time the Rangers score a goal off the rush, rewind about 3 or 4 passes and see if you notice if an aggressive backcheck led the the zone exit and the rush. It's very much a live by the sword, die by the sword system.
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sureshore - 2017-12-17 8:40 AM

PV29 - 2017-12-16 7:07 PM

How do you leave Marchand all alone like that? AV defensive system. That's how.

#FireAV


much as I'd like to say that was AVs system, that's typical Staal following the skater all the way across the ice





I agree with PV on this one. Rangers collapse around the puck carrier, in a box in short handed and even strength situations. And have forever under chewy. Many back door pp goals have been scored on the Rangers this season, but they bravely forge on with the dumbness. I guess chewy has never heard of keeping a man in front no matter what and attack the puck carrier with triangulation. I don't get not identifying a problem and dealing with it.


It happens every game, two players drop low and leave someone open out front. It's part of the backcheck system they employ.

I'll tell you the reasoning behind this system, although I wlll say up front that my opinion is that it's a generally poor system for most game situations.

In short, the point of dropping two guys to pressure the puck carrier, is to cause a turnover and for the other guy to be in a position to regain puck possession immediately. This is very hard to do one on one, in part because forwards these days are incredibly talented, and the rules are especially strict regarding clutching, grabbing, etc. So by sending one guy, the best you can do is hope that you can contain him to the outside, or he makes a low percentage pass.

Sending two is a much more aggressive play, it cuts down significantly on the forward's skate and pass options, and you recover the puck quickly and can transition quickly, which is the basis for the Rangers' game plan. Catch the opposing defensemen out of position/flat footed, and you can create a scoring opportunity. In order to do this you must be able to take the puck away and start the transition immediately - in the NHL giving a defenseman two strides (about a second) means he can get back in a much better defensive position and your advantage is gone. That's all it takes, so you want to use that second advantage.

The problem is it's a high risk, low reward system, especially for 5v5 and close game situations. If you're down one goal late, then sure, do it. You're going to lose otherwise. And usually if you have an aggressive backcheck like that it's incumbent on another forward to drop back and help out. The downside to this is, you have one fewer forward to outlet to in a transition game. Every decision has a cost. Every additional player you give more defensive responsibility to, is one less effective forward player in a rush.

The Rangers/AV probably chose this system because they are trying to build the team on speed and possession, which in today's NHL, is the right decision. Also, they have Lundqvist who bails them out of this system more often than he should. So they may have just said let's have a more aggressive backcheck and hopefully we can spring Kreider/Grabner/Nash and get more odd man rushes the other way. Sometimes it works. Other times it looks like a complete breakdown.

It's not an inherently bad system, but it should be employed in very game specific situations, and I also don't think the Rangers have great personnel to execute this as a full time, 5v5 system. And like I said, when they mess it up, it looks terrible. But the next time the Rangers score a goal off the rush, rewind about 3 or 4 passes and see if you notice if an aggressive backcheck led the the zone exit and the rush. It's very much a live by the sword, die by the sword system.


A friend described it as the "swarm the puck carrier" system.
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Posted 2017-12-21 9:50 AM (#690756 - in reply to #690636)
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Rranger - 2017-12-17 11:19 AM

sureshore - 2017-12-17 8:40 AM

PV29 - 2017-12-16 7:07 PM

How do you leave Marchand all alone like that? AV defensive system. That's how.

#FireAV


much as I'd like to say that was AVs system, that's typical Staal following the skater all the way across the ice





I agree with PV on this one. Rangers collapse around the puck carrier, in a box in short handed and even strength situations. And have forever under chewy. Many back door pp goals have been scored on the Rangers this season, but they bravely forge on with the dumbness. I guess chewy has never heard of keeping a man in front no matter what and attack the puck carrier with triangulation. I don't get not identifying a problem and dealing with it.


It happens every game, two players drop low and leave someone open out front. It's part of the backcheck system they employ.

I'll tell you the reasoning behind this system, although I wlll say up front that my opinion is that it's a generally poor system for most game situations.

In short, the point of dropping two guys to pressure the puck carrier, is to cause a turnover and for the other guy to be in a position to regain puck possession immediately. This is very hard to do one on one, in part because forwards these days are incredibly talented, and the rules are especially strict regarding clutching, grabbing, etc. So by sending one guy, the best you can do is hope that you can contain him to the outside, or he makes a low percentage pass.

Sending two is a much more aggressive play, it cuts down significantly on the forward's skate and pass options, and you recover the puck quickly and can transition quickly, which is the basis for the Rangers' game plan. Catch the opposing defensemen out of position/flat footed, and you can create a scoring opportunity. In order to do this you must be able to take the puck away and start the transition immediately - in the NHL giving a defenseman two strides (about a second) means he can get back in a much better defensive position and your advantage is gone. That's all it takes, so you want to use that second advantage.

The problem is it's a high risk, low reward system, especially for 5v5 and close game situations. If you're down one goal late, then sure, do it. You're going to lose otherwise. And usually if you have an aggressive backcheck like that it's incumbent on another forward to drop back and help out. The downside to this is, you have one fewer forward to outlet to in a transition game. Every decision has a cost. Every additional player you give more defensive responsibility to, is one less effective forward player in a rush.

The Rangers/AV probably chose this system because they are trying to build the team on speed and possession, which in today's NHL, is the right decision. Also, they have Lundqvist who bails them out of this system more often than he should. So they may have just said let's have a more aggressive backcheck and hopefully we can spring Kreider/Grabner/Nash and get more odd man rushes the other way. Sometimes it works. Other times it looks like a complete breakdown.

It's not an inherently bad system, but it should be employed in very game specific situations, and I also don't think the Rangers have great personnel to execute this as a full time, 5v5 system. And like I said, when they mess it up, it looks terrible. But the next time the Rangers score a goal off the rush, rewind about 3 or 4 passes and see if you notice if an aggressive backcheck led the the zone exit and the rush. It's very much a live by the sword, die by the sword system.





Two defensemen going behind their net to retrieve a puck from one opposing forward and chipping it to one of three forwards standing around the front of their net, is not the beginning of a quick break. You’re dreaming if you think that's chewy’s goal at that point in time. His only goal is to get possession of the puck, chip it to one of the three telephone posts standing still in front of the net and have them carry the puck up the center of the zone or clear the puck out of the zone. Clearing the puck is usually what happens.
Do you really think chewy believes opposing coaches and forwards are so dumb, that they don't send one forward to crash the crease and tie up at least one of the Ranger forwards defending the front of the net and eliminating the ranger forward from any quick break in the event of a turnover, plus the opposing forward becomes a outlet for the one opposing forward behind the net who might beat these two Ranger defenseman you speak of, who both so willingly leave the front of their net to initiate a puck retrieval, all the while Chewys dreaming the Rangers are going to initiate a quick break. To complicate the issue ranger forwards do a ****ty job of covering the front of the net.
Again the opposing coach is not a stupid man he still has a high guy to help the opposing defense in case of a Ranger transition. Net result Rangers have a two on three. Sheer genius on chewys part and no he's not that dumb, because his goal is to get the puck out of the zone. Its puck retrieval and clear the zone when two Ranger defensemen go behind the net.
You can rewind the tape all you want watching for your scenario, that’s pee wee hockey stuff. It happens once in a blue moon. What happens more and we have all seen it is the puck chipped in front of the Rangers net by a defenseman and mayhem happening while a Ranger forward tries to control the puck and initiate the get the puck out of here scramble. . Rewind the tape and you will find retaliatory quick strikes by the Rangers are initiated by turnovers created before the puck gets anywhere near the Rangers goal line.
Your theory of chewys objectives of a successful puck retrieval and resulting transition with manpower advantage and subsequent goals make him and opposing coaches look very dumb.




Edited by Rranger 2017-12-21 5:23 PM
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