What will be the plan for the Rangers around the trade deadline?
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Posted 2018-01-10 4:34 AM (#692394)
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Larry Brooks writes that it is "just about impossible" to find people in hockey that believe James Dolan would allow the Rangers to become sellers at the trade deadline. (NY Post)

Brooks writes that there are some who believe the Rangers will try to add a player or two to help offset the loss of Chris Kreider. Brooks says that Kreider is "all but certainly" done for the regular season. (NY Post)

He says that neither Dolan or Jeff Gorton should buy into the Rangers current record and that this is currently a team that struggles to play for a full 60 and is at times "lacking in focus and instensity." (NY Post)

He said that the Rangers have been "kept afloat" on the backs of Henrik Lundqvist and Ondrej Pavelec. (NY Post)

and this from Adam Rotter: The Rangers are a flawed team ......brilliant !

https://www.sny.tv/rangers/news/what-will-be-the-plan-for-the-ranger...


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Posted 2018-01-10 5:47 AM (#692395 - in reply to #692394)
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The Rangers are a flawed team
Tell me something that we don’t already know.

As usual, Dolan just wants to make the playoffs. The extra 2 home games helps line his pockets.

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Posted 2018-01-10 6:44 AM (#692396 - in reply to #692395)
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Im scared actually....They will trade Miller, Skjei, Lias and Chytil and this years #1 for Joe Thornton
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Posted 2018-01-10 7:08 AM (#692397 - in reply to #692394)
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They absolutely need to be sellers...This team is not good enough...Nash has to go...Mac has to go soon...If you can unload Stall fine...If you can unload Shatternkirk and Smith even better...The Rangers have a young core to build around and get better but hey have to be cap responsible...not make contracts that you end up buying out
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Posted 2018-01-10 8:24 AM (#692398 - in reply to #692397)
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Mikey Red - 2018-01-10 9:08 AM

They absolutely need to be sellers...This team is not good enough...Nash has to go...Mac has to go soon...If you can unload Stall fine...If you can unload Shatternkirk and Smith even better...The Rangers have a young core to build around and get better but hey have to be cap responsible...not make contracts that you end up buying out


Can't agree on Smith -- if we get a coach who doesn't worship "pansy play" Smith will be a very valuable commodity.
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Posted 2018-01-10 10:40 AM (#692399 - in reply to #692394)
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Posted 2018-01-10 1:40 PM (#692401 - in reply to #692394)
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Posted 2018-01-10 1:49 PM (#692402 - in reply to #692394)
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Just saw this posted on FB... https://bluelinestation.com/2017/12/13/new-york-rangers-target-brass...

Let's say we decide to make a push for this year, and most likely will be the direction Dolan wants to take for the extra playoff revenue, what do you think of bringing back Brassard?
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Posted 2018-01-10 2:04 PM (#692403 - in reply to #692394)
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Posted 2018-01-10 2:11 PM (#692404 - in reply to #692401)
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Rangerjunkie - 2018-01-10 3:40 PM

Time to fire AV

Yesterday too
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Posted 2018-01-10 2:13 PM (#692405 - in reply to #692394)
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Team needs to build from the draft and out...I liked Brass when he was here...clutch Playoff guy...but he is on the older side of his career...If we can get him for "free" then I have no problem with it...But the goal is to get younger
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Posted 2018-01-10 2:27 PM (#692406 - in reply to #692405)
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Mikey Red - 2018-01-10 4:13 PM

.But the goal is to get younger
That has never been a priority.
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Posted 2018-01-10 2:30 PM (#692407 - in reply to #692406)
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Mjolnir - 2018-01-10 4:27 PM

Mikey Red - 2018-01-10 4:13 PM

.But the goal is to get younger
That has never been a priority.

Yep thats why we never win...We always have stupid people making personel decisions for this team.
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Posted 2018-01-10 3:01 PM (#692408 - in reply to #692407)
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I don't think it's stupid people so much as people being forced to follow a dormant/dead/unrealistic philosophy.
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Posted 2018-01-10 3:10 PM (#692409 - in reply to #692394)
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Could be. Neil Smith F'd this team 6 ways to Sunday....we paid for that until 2005
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Posted 2018-01-10 3:14 PM (#692410 - in reply to #692407)
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Mikey Red - 2018-01-10 4:30 PM

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Mikey Red - 2018-01-10 4:13 PM

.But the goal is to get younger
That has never been a priority.

Yep thats why we never win...We always have stupid people making personel decisions for this team.


I agree, but remember we're dealing with an owner who only sees $$$. So for argument sake, Dolan puts down the hammer and says we're making the playoffs this year. No amount of message board bitching is going to take away at least 2 games of playoff revenue. We have no control. So with that being said, would you want to bring back Brassard for the rest of his contract? I think it's 1.5 yrs. left. Especially if we can get OTT to take Day Jar Nay or pick up half of Brass's salary.

I'm not sure who else would be available at the deadline, but I wouldn't mind bringing back Brass for this year if the price is right.
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Posted 2018-01-10 3:15 PM (#692411 - in reply to #692394)
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Thankfully Dolan only seems to care about he Knicks
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Posted 2018-01-10 3:47 PM (#692412 - in reply to #692394)
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The Rangers continually fail to do what is necessary to build a winning team. They refuse to take one step forward in order to take two steps back. We see this literally every year.

The best we can hope for is for Gorton not to mortgage too much of the future in order to get that guy that "helps them make the playoffs." I pray that they eventually they will see how flawed this approach is. Bring in Eric Staal, play a natural center at wing, and watch him score 6 points in 8 weeks. He leaves as a UFA and guess what, he's a 30ish goal scorer again.

On a side note, the prospect we traded for Staal, Alexi Saarela, was briefly recalled earlier this year, and is on the cusp of making the big club. If that isn't depressing enough I haven't even bothered to look up and see who they picked with the two second round picks we sent also.

So the Rangers' plan should be, identify your core, sell what you can for cheaper/younger contracts, picks, and prospects, and try to use the extra cap space to sign smart, complementary UFAs in the offseason.

The Rangers' plan will inevitably be, fool yourself into thinking you're a playoff caliber team, sell off some youth/picks (but not enough for the fans to riot) for an aging UFA name who doesn't actually fit your team need, scrape into the playoffs due to NHL loser-point parity and outstanding goaltender play, lose in the first round, and then figure out what you'll do in the offseason.

It never changes.

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Posted 2018-01-10 6:10 PM (#692420 - in reply to #692394)
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I just don't see that Dolan cares that much about money. The Rangers and Knicks have never been restrained in how much they spend. He doesn't understand hockey so he doesn't grasp how much this team has been propped up by good goaltending and nothing else. He sees playoffs and thinks these guys are doing a good job. If money was the overriding concern, the Ranger teams of the past would have looked quite different.
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Posted 2018-01-10 6:24 PM (#692422 - in reply to #692394)
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Unfortunately, the Kreider situation will prompt these dummies to take a chance on a rental winger to fill the void left by Kreider. Prepare to be pissed off as they bring in another rental who is misused by Gum-Gum the Dum-Dum, and then leaves for no return in the off-season.

Just #FireAV and see what a better coach can do with this group. Guaranteed, it won't be worse than what we've seen so far.
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Posted 2018-01-10 6:27 PM (#692423 - in reply to #692411)
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Mikey Red - 2018-01-10 5:15 PM

Thankfully Dolan only seems to care about he Knicks


That's true, but that rangers revenue certainly helps fund his Isaiah-type disaster moves.
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Posted 2018-01-10 6:33 PM (#692424 - in reply to #692420)
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Vua - 2018-01-10 8:10 PM

I just don't see that Dolan cares that much about money. The Rangers and Knicks have never been restrained in how much they spend. He doesn't understand hockey so he doesn't grasp how much this team has been propped up by good goaltending and nothing else. He sees playoffs and thinks these guys are doing a good job. If money was the overriding concern, the Ranger teams of the past would have looked quite different.


I can't see how you can say that -- Money was THE concern...that's why those teams of the past looked the way they did..."names" were signed to put corporate fannies in the seats...the teams they iced certainly weren't going to. As long as the suits ponied up for a chance to see a "star" player (albeit a star with one foot out the door), all was well. A round or two of playoff revenue was icing.

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Posted 2018-01-11 2:06 PM (#692434 - in reply to #692409)
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Mikey Red - 2018-01-10 5:10 PM

Could be. Neil Smith F'd this team 6 ways to Sunday....we paid for that until 2005


Neil does not get all the credit for the mess until 2005. Sather took over as GM in 2000 and had no salary cap until the lockout in 2004-2005. Never forget the Sather quote:

" If I had the Rangers payroll, I'd never lose a game."

Sather has been Rangers President from 2000 until now and was GM from 2000 until 2015.

At least Smith delivered a Cup.
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Posted 2018-01-11 2:14 PM (#692435 - in reply to #692434)
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Mikey Red - 2018-01-10 5:10 PM

Could be. Neil Smith F'd this team 6 ways to Sunday....we paid for that until 2005


Neil does not get all the credit for the mess until 2005. Sather took over as GM in 2000 and had no salary cap until the lockout in 2004-2005. Never forget the Sather quote:

" If I had the Rangers payroll, I'd never lose a game."

Sather has been Rangers President from 2000 until now and was GM from 2000 until 2015.

At least Smith delivered a Cup.

Yep...Smith made the deal with the man downstairs......Sather was just an awful GM..."With the Rangers payroll...I'd win the Cup every year"
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Posted 2018-01-11 2:30 PM (#692436 - in reply to #692394)
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They're in a weird position as a bubble team.

For that reason, I'm not sure they do much unless it's a good deal.

They need someone better than Deshernais to center the 3rd line

And they need someone better than Holden to play with McDonagh.

If they do that and can get healthy.... Kreider coming back just before the playoffs... Then this team could contend in my opinion.

I just don't know that they have the trading chips to get it done.


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Posted 2018-01-11 2:52 PM (#692437 - in reply to #692394)
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One of four things the Rangers will do at the trade deadline:
A. Trade young players for a PP quarterback;
B. Acquire a former superstar scorer to jump start the offense, most likely with high draft picks;
C. Trade for trades sake, making a case for "shake things up" or "good in the locker room"; or
D. Do nothing, as in "couldn't find a suitable partner".

One of the above is what happens every year.
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Posted 2018-01-11 3:19 PM (#692438 - in reply to #692394)
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The dumbasses should sell, sell, sell. However, we all know the morons won't and will convince themselves they can win it.
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Posted 2018-01-11 5:13 PM (#692439 - in reply to #692394)
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Even IF this team makes the playoffs, and that's a BIG IF, No way does this team make it out of the 2nd round if they're lucky enough for Hank to steal round 1....

This team is not a playoff built team, they will be hammered by the bigger physical teams that are built for the playoffs. You think they are bad with turnovers now? Wait until they are constantly looking over their shoulder!

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Posted 2018-01-11 5:38 PM (#692440 - in reply to #692439)
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Rangerjunkie - 2018-01-11 7:13 PM

Even IF this team makes the playoffs, and that's a BIG IF, No way does this team make it out of the 2nd round if they're lucky enough for Hank to steal round 1....

This team is not a playoff built team, they will be hammered by the bigger physical teams that are built for the playoffs. You think they are bad with turnovers now? Wait until they are constantly looking over their shoulder!


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Posted 2018-01-11 5:45 PM (#692441 - in reply to #692394)
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Can we sell AV. I'd take a bucket of practice pucks; at least they have value.
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Posted 2018-01-11 8:45 PM (#692442 - in reply to #692441)
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NTHockey - 2018-01-11 7:45 PM

Can we sell AV. I'd take a bucket of practice pucks; at least they have value.

Do you do weather?...
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Posted 2018-01-12 2:18 AM (#692443 - in reply to #692394)
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Nash could probably get back a 2 and a 3 to a team looking for a top defensive forward who can give them puck possession. It's important to remember that you can't judge our defenseman with the stupid system AV plays. Look at Girardi and the season he's having on Tampa. So, a guy like Smith is a system that actually isn't stupid could be interesting to teams out there. I think you have put McDonagh out there and at least see what kind of offers are made.
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Posted 2018-01-12 6:51 AM (#692445 - in reply to #692443)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2018-01-12 4:18 AM

Nash could probably get back a 2 and a 3 to a team looking for a top defensive forward who can give them puck possession. It's important to remember that you can't judge our defenseman with the stupid system AV plays. Look at Girardi and the season he's having on Tampa. So, a guy like Smith is a system that actually isn't stupid could be interesting to teams out there. I think you have put McDonagh out there and at least see what kind of offers are made.

Yes....you HAVE to deal Nash by the deadline...and Yes ...Mac has to be moved too...You cant give him a new 7 year contract.
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Posted 2018-01-12 7:12 AM (#692446 - in reply to #692394)
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They don't have to sell AV, just FIRE him already!!!!
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Posted 2018-01-12 12:04 PM (#692451 - in reply to #692394)
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I think they should trade Nash if its a decent return for sure. Even if the Rangers make the playoffs, he hasn't contributed in the playoffs at all, so what would we be missing?
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Posted 2018-01-12 12:46 PM (#692454 - in reply to #692394)
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Other than the recent goalie they added who is playing great, the Pack should dump the other two in the ECHL, and call up Halverson to the Pack. There is no point keeping him in that league on a crap team. Let him play in the AHL and start seeing if he's worth keeping.
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Posted 2018-01-12 2:33 PM (#692459 - in reply to #692394)
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Got to sell on Nash. I get the sentimentality that they and the casual fan have for him but this is an asset management game at this point. I have no problem bringing him back on a decent contract in July but you can get much more for him than a second and a third. He's a perfect third liner on a contender - plays good defense, good positional play, still has wheels, might score you a few. Plus he won't mess up your top 6. You sell Nash on it by pointing out he doesn't have a lot of years left and we don't know how many actual shots NYR will have with Hank back there... why not go to a contender for a couple of months and see what happens?

Probably the same pitch to Grabner... who knows he might walk in July anyway for a big payday elsewhere. Holden, I bet you could get a little something for him, and then that opens up ice time for AV to give Kampfer a top pair slot because we all know that's what he wants.

Desharnais, Carey, I couldn't give a crap about. Whatever.

McDonagh, listen to offers for sure. He has another year left on his deal but it's a good deal, if you retain a little bit of it I bet we could cash in on McDonagh for sure. I don't think he's been given the structure to succeed here as a NYR and I would be sad to see him go but I'd rather get something for him than continually see AV shackle him to sh!t defensemen and waste his years and drive down his value.

Lastly if Buchnevich gets traded for some garbage I may have to throw in the towel on this team until coaching/management changes. I have not been this frustrated with the club for 20 years as I am this season.



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Posted 2018-01-12 3:30 PM (#692461 - in reply to #692394)
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I don't know.... Rangers post Richter pre Lundqvist were pretty frustrating...
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Posted 2018-01-12 5:38 PM (#692463 - in reply to #692394)
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It makes no sense to bring anyone in, chewy has bungled most every addition to the group, unless the guys a scrub then he bungles that by playing him to much, and to high up the lineup. From what I see as I’ve mentioned before Lettieri should be on the Rangers. Which puts them one over on the forwards so I’d be moving Miller back to center and waving goodbye to Desharnais, maybe he’s impressed someone enough to actually generate a return. Or trade Grabner for defensive help. He’s at a all time high sell value and a one trick pony, and should not be signed to a long term contract. Given the chance I think Lettieri makes up a significant part of Grabner’s goal scoring and he’s a lot better all round player.
The problem is short of bringing in Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, Park, Toews, Kane, Crosby and Karlsson this team will never win a thing with chopper behind the bench so it’s all a exercise in futility.
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Posted 2018-01-12 7:06 PM (#692464 - in reply to #692394)
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By defensive help, I assume you mean getting rid of AV and bringing in someone with a legitimate defensive scheme.
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Posted 2018-01-12 7:17 PM (#692465 - in reply to #692394)
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Maybe they can trade chewy.
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Posted 2018-01-13 5:35 AM (#692466 - in reply to #692394)
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Loved the Stepan deal. Ridding us of that lazy dope and his absurd contract was brilliant. However, I'm starting to lose confidence that Gorton has a clue. Talks about re-signing Nash are moronic. Signing Smith was idiotic when he then signed Shattenkirk. He seems to be going in the wrong direction now. He can't possibly think this team is a legit contender.
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Posted 2018-01-13 8:11 AM (#692468 - in reply to #692394)
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I read on another site that the Rangers are hot after after Erik Karlsson.....NO NO NO NO
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Posted 2018-01-13 8:13 AM (#692469 - in reply to #692394)
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Here it is: (What you all have been waiting for…) lol
I had a chat last night with my friend (who gave me the info I needed, there was a meeting during this week off about future plans)

PREDICTION RANGERS ROSTER AFTER TRADE DEADLINE (when fully healthy):

Line 1:
Kreider – Zibanejad – Nash
Line 2:
Jt Miller – Hayes – Zuccarello
Line 3:
Grabner – Letestu – Vesey
Line 4:
B. Pouliot –Nieves– Fast
Spares: Carey, Letteri, Nieves, Chytil

Defense pair 1:
McDonagh – E. Karlsson
Defense pair 2:
Skjei – Shattenkirk
Defense pair 3:
M. Staal – Holden or Smith
Spares: Deangelo, Kampfer

Starting Goalie:
Henrik Lundqvist
Back up Goalie:
Ondrej Pavelec

Traded players at deadline: Pavel Buchnevich, Brendan Smith or Nick Holden, David Desharnais, picks and prospects (not named Shestyorkin or Lias Andersson)

*Buchnevich is the one dealt because I was told Jt Miller and Jimmy Vesey are not getting dealt, period… Brady Skjei is off limits as well.

Was told Rangers would like to acquire Erik Karlsson for their playoff push… and I do expect it to happen because I think a deal will be all around mutual.
Think about it, after all the deadline moves Rangers have made over the years to try to get a Cup..Erik Karlsson is actually a player that can seriously make a difference in a playoff run. He is a superstar that eats up big mintutes and he is AVAILABLE . Lundqvist only has so many more chances left. Rangers will NOT be able to pass up on this opportunity. Plus, we are also looking for a right handed defenseman to pair up with McDonagh, something we are missing badly. The fact that Mcdonagh is also an FA soon, we may be looking for a new #1.

Pavel Buchnevich is going to be the guy Rangers are willing to move to acquire Erik Karlsson because it sounds like he is the main significant piece that the Rangers would be willing to move off our roster (this season) to make it happen. If there’s a blockbuster trade at the deadline, sounds like he is going to be odd-man out.

Argue with me all you want (I am used to it), but like it or not, I got the inside info, I am aware who the Rangers do not want to trade, who’d they’d maybe consider trading, and most importantly I know what they are looking to do …. They want Erik Karlsson. Plain and simple.

Again,
Skjei, Jt Miller, Jimmy Vesey, Lias Andersson are all off the table. They won’t trade any of them during this season . Highly unlikely – they do not want to.

And we all know they won’t trade Kreider,McDonagh, Zibanejad or Zuccarello this year. That’s a no brainer for the position they are currently in.

So to me, that leaves only two players that could make sense in a deal for Erik Karlsson:
Those two players are: Pavel Buchnevich or Philip Chytil for it to have any chance of happening. If none of these two players interest Ottawa, then I don’t expect the trade to happen.
If Sens ask for both of them, then I also don’t expect this trade to happen. That would be too much.

I see the deal being:
Buchnevich or Chytil, Smith or Holden, Day or Graves, and a 1st round pick. (Something like this)
I have no idea who the Senators would be interested in from this group of players, but I think Rangers would let them pick from that group to form a package that looks something close to that.

Time will tell

but now you know, the plans at the moment.
I do not make this up.

1 .Rangers want Karlsson,
2. Rangers plan to make a run this year… they are buyers not sellers.
3….which means, don’t expect Nash or Grabner to be dealt (unless the team starts losing a bunch of games in the next month)
4. If Rangers start losing a bunch of games (in the next month), plans would change, cancel out Erik Karlsson for this season, but they would still go for him in the off season in this case.
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If one of, if not the best defensemen in the league is only worth ""Buchnevich or Chytil, Smith or Holden, Day or Graves, and a 1st round pick"" that price you do it in a heartbeat. I seriously doubt Ottawa is going to part with him for Chytil, Holden, Graves and a first, or any other combination of the mentioned players. Besides that I'm not sure Karlsson would be happy on the third pair in chewy's world. That being said the two teams have done business under the present G.M.'s so anything could happen, I just think the Rangers would be forking over considerably more than the above. More likely Chytil, Buchnevich, Day, Graves and a first and you have Ottawa's attention.
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Does your buddy have any ties to the team?

Lol I dont know him...but apparently he knows someone in the organization
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If one of, if not the best defensemen in the league is only worth ""Buchnevich or Chytil, Smith or Holden, Day or Graves, and a 1st round pick"" that price you do it in a heartbeat. I seriously doubt Ottawa is going to part with him for Chytil, Holden, Graves and a first, or any other combination of the mentioned players. Besides that I'm not sure Karlsson would be happy on the third pair in chewy's world. That being said the two teams have done business under the present G.M.'s so anything could happen, I just think the Rangers would be forking over considerably more than the above. More likely Chytil, Buchnevich, Day, Graves and a first and you have Ottawa's attention.

I agree..also Karlsson has taken a physical beating over the years...This is what the Rangers ALWAYS do....I dont want him...Build us back up primarily through the draft...then add a piece here and there
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and I do expect it to happen because I think a deal will be all around mutual.
Think about it, after all the deadline moves Rangers have made over the years to try to get a Cup..Erik Karlsson is actually a player that can seriously make a difference in a playoff run. He is a superstar that eats up big mintutes and he is AVAILABLE .

Isn't that what they said about Rick Nash?
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If one of, if not the best defensemen in the league is only worth ""Buchnevich or Chytil, Smith or Holden, Day or Graves, and a 1st round pick"" that price you do it in a heartbeat. I seriously doubt Ottawa is going to part with him for Chytil, Holden, Graves and a first, or any other combination of the mentioned players. Besides that I'm not sure Karlsson would be happy on the third pair in chewy's world. That being said the two teams have done business under the present G.M.'s so anything could happen, I just think the Rangers would be forking over considerably more than the above. More likely Chytil, Buchnevich, Day, Graves and a first and you have Ottawa's attention.

I agree..also Karlsson has taken a physical beating over the years...This is what the Rangers ALWAYS do....I dont want him...Build us back up primarily through the draft...then add a piece here and there




Karlsson is a game changer especially if the Rangers could move Shattenkirk for a more reliable defensive defenseman. You never know what could happen, but unless the Rangers come unglued I think you are going to see a bit of a all in trade deadline for the Rangers. Henrek's clock is ticking, but as mentioned elsewhere could B Orr, D. Potvin, N. Lidstrom, ect. make Chewys non existent defensive zone plan work??
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If the Rangers are going to be sellers at the deadline, they should go all in and make the BIG sell which could rebuild the franchise in two years.

Trade Henrik.

Trade him to a contender that just needs an elite goalie to bring them the Cup (Winnipeg? St. Louis?) Let Henrik win the Cup that he absolutely deserves but will never win as a Ranger. Trade him now, while he still commands high market value and is having an All-Star season. They could bring back a young impact player and some high draft picks which, combined with getting rid of some dead weight in the offseason, could quickly rebuild this team.

It's the right move, but the Rangers won't do it. It's a move that takes guts, and the Rangers front office hasn't had guts since Neil Smith left.
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If the Rangers are going to be sellers at the deadline, they should go all in and make the BIG sell which could rebuild the franchise in two years.

Trade Henrik.

Trade him to a contender that just needs an elite goalie to bring them the Cup (Winnipeg? St. Louis?) Let Henrik win the Cup that he absolutely deserves but will never win as a Ranger. Trade him now, while he still commands high market value and is having an All-Star season. They could bring back a young impact player and some high draft picks which, combined with getting rid of some dead weight in the offseason, could quickly rebuild this team.

It's the right move, but the Rangers won't do it. It's a move that takes guts, and the Rangers front office hasn't had guts since Neil Smith left.

100% absolutely....Toronto can use him too
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If the Rangers are going to be sellers at the deadline, they should go all in and make the BIG sell which could rebuild the franchise in two years.

Trade Henrik.

Trade him to a contender that just needs an elite goalie to bring them the Cup (Winnipeg? St. Louis?) Let Henrik win the Cup that he absolutely deserves but will never win as a Ranger. Trade him now, while he still commands high market value and is having an All-Star season. They could bring back a young impact player and some high draft picks which, combined with getting rid of some dead weight in the offseason, could quickly rebuild this team.

It's the right move, but the Rangers won't do it. It's a move that takes guts, and the Rangers front office hasn't had guts since Neil Smith left.





Gorton should trade any one that makes the team better and he better be listening to offers for each and every player on the roster. A selloff of Lundqvist, Grabner, Nash. Holden, and even Smith and Shattenkirk two huge signing mistakes could set them up for the next decade. Especially with a new coach.
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PV29 - 2018-01-13 8:55 AM

If the Rangers are going to be sellers at the deadline, they should go all in and make the BIG sell which could rebuild the franchise in two years.

Trade Henrik.

Trade him to a contender that just needs an elite goalie to bring them the Cup (Winnipeg? St. Louis?) Let Henrik win the Cup that he absolutely deserves but will never win as a Ranger. Trade him now, while he still commands high market value and is having an All-Star season. They could bring back a young impact player and some high draft picks which, combined with getting rid of some dead weight in the offseason, could quickly rebuild this team.

It's the right move, but the Rangers won't do it. It's a move that takes guts, and the Rangers front office hasn't had guts since Neil Smith left.






Gorton should trade any one that makes the team better and he better be listening to offers for each and every player on the roster. A selloff of Lundqvist, Grabner, Nash. Holden, and even Smith and Shattenkirk two huge signing mistakes could set them up for the next decade. Especially with a new coach.
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There is no way Karlsson is coming here. His cap hit is way too big. Nash is of no interest to the Sens. Smith would have to go back and Ottawa would have to be on his list of teams it's OK to trade him to. Then you would probably have to throw in Chytil, Huska, DeAngelo and probably a 2nd.
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Maybe they can trade chewy.
That will put the end of STAR WARS.
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Rranger - 2018-01-12 9:17 PM

Maybe they can trade chewy.
That will put the end of STAR WARS.




A small price to pay no?
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PV29 - 2018-01-13 11:55 AM

If the Rangers are going to be sellers at the deadline, they should go all in and make the BIG sell which could rebuild the franchise in two years.

Trade Henrik.

Trade him to a contender that just needs an elite goalie to bring them the Cup (Winnipeg? St. Louis?) Let Henrik win the Cup that he absolutely deserves but will never win as a Ranger. Trade him now, while he still commands high market value and is having an All-Star season. They could bring back a young impact player and some high draft picks which, combined with getting rid of some dead weight in the offseason, could quickly rebuild this team.

It's the right move, but the Rangers won't do it. It's a move that takes guts, and the Rangers front office hasn't had guts since Neil Smith left.


I agree 100%. The problem is, just like when we traded Leetch, what will the idiot in the front office get in return? 4 nobodys and a Korpikoski?

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PV29 - 2018-01-13 11:55 AM

If the Rangers are going to be sellers at the deadline, they should go all in and make the BIG sell which could rebuild the franchise in two years.

Trade Henrik.

Trade him to a contender that just needs an elite goalie to bring them the Cup (Winnipeg? St. Louis?) Let Henrik win the Cup that he absolutely deserves but will never win as a Ranger. Trade him now, while he still commands high market value and is having an All-Star season. They could bring back a young impact player and some high draft picks which, combined with getting rid of some dead weight in the offseason, could quickly rebuild this team.

It's the right move, but the Rangers won't do it. It's a move that takes guts, and the Rangers front office hasn't had guts since Neil Smith left.


I agree 100%. The problem is, just like when we traded Leetch, what will the idiot in the front office get in return? 4 nobodys and a Korpikoski?


Yep...We are reaping what Sather has sewn since the day he traded Duby and Cally and a #1 and luckily Tim Erixon was a bust for Nash.....Bad trades...giving away #1's all over the place. JG has been as bad if not worse...so now we are here today.....No top line....No legit NHL Centers for lines 3 and 4....and the D is terrible.....Complete overhaul is needed....We have little to nothing on the Farm....Its a disater
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Not exactly true. With Shesterkin and Huska goalie in the farm is strong. Andersson and Chytil should be good pieces next year. Lafontaine will fill a nice role on the 4th line. Maybe another year away. Gropp got off to a slow start but I heard they play him with scrubs. Probably 1 1/2 years away. Graves should have made the team this year. Still don't know why DeAngelo hasn't been moved to wing. Ronning has been a real surprise and figures to have a good shot at the NHL now. Nash, Smith, McDonagh, Holden, Vesey. Who knows what the returns would be for those players. Point is, moron Gorton needs to stop believing this team is a contender. They aren't.
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Gorton is gonna trade Chytil, Vesey, Mac and a #1 for Pacioretty.....Or maybe he will trade those guys for simply future consideration like he did with Stepan and Raanta
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Mikey Red - 2018-01-15 8:07 AM

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PV29 - 2018-01-13 11:55 AM

If the Rangers are going to be sellers at the deadline, they should go all in and make the BIG sell which could rebuild the franchise in two years.

Trade Henrik.

Trade him to a contender that just needs an elite goalie to bring them the Cup (Winnipeg? St. Louis?) Let Henrik win the Cup that he absolutely deserves but will never win as a Ranger. Trade him now, while he still commands high market value and is having an All-Star season. They could bring back a young impact player and some high draft picks which, combined with getting rid of some dead weight in the offseason, could quickly rebuild this team.

It's the right move, but the Rangers won't do it. It's a move that takes guts, and the Rangers front office hasn't had guts since Neil Smith left.


I agree 100%. The problem is, just like when we traded Leetch, what will the idiot in the front office get in return? 4 nobodys and a Korpikoski?


Yep...We are reaping what Sather has sewn since the day he traded Duby and Cally and a #1 and luckily Tim Erixon was a bust for Nash.....Bad trades...giving away #1's all over the place. JG has been as bad if not worse...so now we are here today.....No top line....No legit NHL Centers for lines 3 and 4....and the D is terrible.....Complete overhaul is needed....We have little to nothing on the Farm....Its a disater


Woah, wait a minute, JG did not trade away a #1. Right there, he's done a better job than Sather
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Bottom line right now with this team, the way to go is sell, sell, sell!!
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https://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2017/11/2/16570994/jeff-gorton-cant-...
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This out today ....
The Rangers, according to Sports Club Stats, only have a 54.4% chance of making the playoffs.
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With Holden and Kampfer as our top pair D and Albert on the top line...I think they are short changing us.
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The article is an interesting read until I read this:
"Firing Alain Vigneault appears to be the easiest response to try and turn the Rangers’ season around, but a coaching change is unlikely to make any worthwhile difference. It could very well leave the Rangers in a worse situation, making a change behind the bench is a risky proposition. "

The writer loses all credibility with a couple of sentences.
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With Holden and Kampfer as our top pair D and Albert on the top line...I think they are short changing us.





Buwahaha except. Check out time on ice for defensemen yesterday and one Steven Kampfer had the most ice time.
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The article is an interesting read until I read this:
"Firing Alain Vigneault appears to be the easiest response to try and turn the Rangers’ season around, but a coaching change is unlikely to make any worthwhile difference. It could very well leave the Rangers in a worse situation, making a change behind the bench is a risky proposition. "

The writer loses all credibility with a couple of sentences.

Yeah I read that and took notice too...he was too soft in the article...but he didnt say anything that was incorrect

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Mikey Red - 2018-01-15 12:24 PM

With Holden and Kampfer as our top pair D and Albert on the top line...I think they are short changing us.





Buwahaha except. Check out time on ice for defensemen yesterday and one Steven Kampfer had the most ice time.

Ducking Incredible
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Mikey Red - 2018-01-15 4:03 PM

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Mikey Red - 2018-01-15 12:24 PM

With Holden and Kampfer as our top pair D and Albert on the top line...I think they are short changing us.





Buwahaha except. Check out time on ice for defensemen yesterday and one Steven Kampfer had the most ice time.

Ducking Incredible
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I think given the teams play .. you have to move large contracts.... Nash to ANYONE.. and I would think Hank (I love him) has to go... a Chicago.. or an Edmonton.. teams that could use an upgrade... Chicago has a window with guys like Keith and Hossa getting older.. they would make a move to grab him... Edmonton has young kids and Hank would help them out not that Talbot is bad.. but he is no Hank and they have assets to move.

I would love to see Shattenkirk moved that guys sucks... one dimensional player who sucks 5 on 5... not worth the money...

move those three and the Rangers can turn it around .. next year.

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You're lost dude. They aren't trading Hank. Period. Shattenkirk won't accept a trade anywhere else. He took less money to come here. The only players the could move that they might want to move are Nash, McDonagh, Smith and perhaps Vesey.
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The first thing that needs to be done immediately is Arneil needs to be fired. He's a complete idiot running the PP. It has sucked ever since he got here.
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You're lost dude. They aren't trading Hank. Period. Shattenkirk won't accept a trade anywhere else. He took less money to come here. The only players the could move that they might want to move are Nash, McDonagh, Smith and perhaps Vesey.


How do you know they wouldn’t trade Henke? If the payback was huge, wouldn’t you? It’s a business. Henke’s number will be hanging from the rafters one day regardless.

Sh!tenkirk has a limited NTC next season. 10 teams. That makes 20 teams you can trade him to, but what could you possibly get back for overpaid garbage except for someone else’s overpaid garbage?



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itsmcilrathtime - 2018-01-16 3:45 AM

You're lost dude. They aren't trading Hank. Period. Shattenkirk won't accept a trade anywhere else. He took less money to come here. The only players the could move that they might want to move are Nash, McDonagh, Smith and perhaps Vesey.


How do you know they wouldn’t trade Henke? If the payback was huge, wouldn’t you? It’s a business. Henke’s number will be hanging from the rafters one day regardless.

Sh!tenkirk has a limited NTC next season. 10 teams. That makes 20 teams you can trade him to, but what could you possibly get back for overpaid garbage except for someone else’s overpaid garbage?





Doesn't Henrik have a no movement clause? If so, then it doesn't matter what kind of deal you can get if he decides he's not going.
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Everybody is tradable gut I feel confident stating there is no way they are trading Hank. They aren't doing anything until they know if Shesterkin or Huska can replace him which they won't for a couple of years
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They have to capitulate at this point. I agree Hank is not likely going to be traded but would have the conversation to get him to a solid Cup contender. Would not think there would be interest except a contender. How about, off the cuff, Hank and McD to Winnepeg for Trouba and 2 A prospects at or near the NHL . Throw in Mason.... Could be a Win-Win...
Nash would then probably waive his trade constraint move him for a A or highest possible prospect at or near the NHL.
Stall would likely raise his hand to go .... maybe a decent prospect depending on salary retention
Deal Grabner for a decent prospect.
See if Torts would take Zucc for the Wennburg character..
Holden for whatever ..
AV gone ...
House now clean ... if the scouting staff does well on the above prospects maybe we watch some energetic hockey played by young hungry players.
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Posted 2018-01-16 10:16 AM (#693124 - in reply to #693122)
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Gravey09 - 2018-01-16 12:13 PM

They have to capitulate at this point. I agree Hank is not likely going to be traded but would have the conversation to get him to a solid Cup contender. Would not think there would be interest except a contender. How about, off the cuff, Hank and McD to Winnepeg for Trouba and 2 A prospects at or near the NHL . Throw in Mason.... Could be a Win-Win...
Nash would then probably waive his trade constraint move him for a A or highest possible prospect at or near the NHL.
Stall would likely raise his hand to go .... maybe a decent prospect depending on salary retention
Deal Grabner for a decent prospect.
See if Torts would take Zucc for the Wennburg character..
Holden for whatever ..
AV gone ...
House now clean ... if the scouting staff does well on the above prospects maybe we watch some energetic hockey played by young hungry players.

1000% spot on agee
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Posted 2018-01-16 7:14 PM (#693300 - in reply to #692394)
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I know that Hank cant be moved anywhere.. but with the D in front of him.. and a hall of fame induction the only future he has in NYC is a cup.. and this team is not a cup winner.. so move him some where he might have a shot... who might need an upgrade... Given his compete level I would think he would welcome the right fit...

Shattenkirk is terrible... move him off the books and teams would go for it. if you again find the right team.

I love the winnipeg deal I could see that for sure .. .get back one of the young goalies back to fill out the spot.
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Posted 2018-01-16 8:28 PM (#693356 - in reply to #693122)
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Gravey09 - 2018-01-16 10:13 AM

They have to capitulate at this point. I agree Hank is not likely going to be traded but would have the conversation to get him to a solid Cup contender. Would not think there would be interest except a contender. How about, off the cuff, Hank and McD to Winnepeg for Trouba and 2 A prospects at or near the NHL . Throw in Mason.... Could be a Win-Win...
Nash would then probably waive his trade constraint move him for a A or highest possible prospect at or near the NHL.
Stall would likely raise his hand to go .... maybe a decent prospect depending on salary retention
Deal Grabner for a decent prospect.
See if Torts would take Zucc for the Wennburg character..
Holden for whatever ..
AV gone ...
House now clean ... if the scouting staff does well on the above prospects maybe we watch some energetic hockey played by young hungry players.


Kinda liking this........
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Posted 2018-01-17 9:24 AM (#693361 - in reply to #693356)
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Rangerjunkie - 2018-01-16 7:28 PM

Gravey09 - 2018-01-16 10:13 AM

They have to capitulate at this point. I agree Hank is not likely going to be traded but would have the conversation to get him to a solid Cup contender. Would not think there would be interest except a contender. How about, off the cuff, Hank and McD to Winnepeg for Trouba and 2 A prospects at or near the NHL . Throw in Mason.... Could be a Win-Win...
Nash would then probably waive his trade constraint move him for a A or highest possible prospect at or near the NHL.
Stall would likely raise his hand to go .... maybe a decent prospect depending on salary retention
Deal Grabner for a decent prospect.
See if Torts would take Zucc for the Wennburg character..
Holden for whatever ..
AV gone ...
House now clean ... if the scouting staff does well on the above prospects maybe we watch some energetic hockey played by young hungry players.


Kinda liking this........





I'm not against the theory, as long as enough marbles are coming back. I'd be more in agreement with the above if it was A list player, a top prospect, and a pick or prospect for Lundqvist minimum. Its either out of the park for the Rangers or why trade the only guy capable of keeping it respectable around here until some coaching changes take place. Anybody is tradeable, but Henrik wouldn't go just anywhere, it would have to be a golden opportunity to win a cup, maybe some of his buddies from home, and somewhere he wants to go. If the Rangers continue their up and down play all the while on a slow overall downward spiral I could see him saying "you know Nashville, Winnipeg, Washington, St. Louis ect. give me a better chance especially with him there. If I'm any one of the mentioned teams or possibly others with less of a chance but potential Toronto ect. I'm all in on checking to see what it would take to get him. He'd be a gamechanger on the right team.
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