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Posted 2018-04-07 9:33 PM (#702896)
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Posted 2018-04-07 9:36 PM (#702898 - in reply to #702896)
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Posted 2018-04-07 10:14 PM (#702905 - in reply to #702896)
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Read this guy....he's great

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Posted 2018-04-08 2:59 AM (#702908 - in reply to #702896)
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Knew he was gone...no way he'd be back. Now I did think they would do it in a more diplomatic way, but the fact they did it this way, and so quickly, tells you they were done with AV and simply wanted no part of his nonsense anymore.

Still happy he stayed for all 82 though for some fun banter in here.







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Posted 2018-04-08 4:51 AM (#702911 - in reply to #702905)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-07 10:14 PM

Read this guy....he's great

https://twitter.com/NYCTheMiC



He's not great. He's a moron with nothing better to do than post crap on Twitter.


Coaching change was long overdue. AV doesn't value toughness, stay at home defenseman or defensive systems. He also sucks with young players.
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Posted 2018-04-08 5:47 AM (#702913 - in reply to #702896)
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I like Quinn, Keefe or Tippett to replace AV. I would prefer new blood with Quinn or Keefe, but if they want prior NHL coaching experience I would go with Tippett.





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Posted 2018-04-08 6:12 AM (#702916 - in reply to #702896)
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Please no Tippett. He's all defense. He's worse than Torts with offense. Need a young guy who can find a balance.

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Posted 2018-04-08 6:19 AM (#702917 - in reply to #702896)
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Posted 2018-04-08 6:34 AM (#702919 - in reply to #702896)
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Drew Bannister would be another coach they take a long look at.
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Posted 2018-04-08 7:31 AM (#702920 - in reply to #702896)
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Im intrigued by Patrick Roy......He is prob a blast to play for...He's crazy...but his teams dont play defense......How great is it that AV got it right after the game? JG is not messing around
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Posted 2018-04-08 7:36 AM (#702921 - in reply to #702896)
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Posted 2018-04-08 7:45 AM (#702922 - in reply to #702896)
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I think this team could use a coach who knows a thing or two about playing defense.

Not saying who that should be.
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Posted 2018-04-08 7:47 AM (#702923 - in reply to #702896)
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Hoooooooooooooo-motherfvckin-raaaaaaaaaaaaay!

I hate AV's guts. Am ecstatic that he's gone.
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Posted 2018-04-08 8:00 AM (#702924 - in reply to #702896)
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I think you'll see a lot of improvement in players like Vesey, Skjei and Zibanejad if they pick the right coach. Vesey was completely misused by moron AV.
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Posted 2018-04-08 8:03 AM (#702925 - in reply to #702896)
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AV should of been fired last year after the Ottawa series....His mismanagement in that series was a beacon for how bad he was
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Posted 2018-04-08 8:14 AM (#702926 - in reply to #702896)
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I am wondering what it would take to pry Sheldon Keefe from the Marlies. He has rebuilt every single team that he has coached from Pembroke, Sault St. Marie to the Toronto Marlies.

He is a balanced mix of offense and defense preaches the transition game....he knows how to win games, communicates with his players as well as is an authoritative figure,
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Posted 2018-04-08 8:21 AM (#702927 - in reply to #702896)
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So happy dip**** is gone. There was no moving forward, no matter how many moves Gorton made, with "his Groundhog Day movie" never changing coaching style. The one thing I didn't and still don't like is Miller being traded, and then Vigneault's pathetic attempt to cover his ass with the never before heard whispers about Millers training and lifestyle. Typical post trade cover your ass bull****. Vigneaults path is littered with underachieving players, and and the same mistakes happening over and over since the day he got here.
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Posted 2018-04-08 8:24 AM (#702928 - in reply to #702923)
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DaTeL - 2018-04-08 9:47 AM

Oh and by the way...

Hoooooooooooooo-motherfvckin-raaaaaaaaaaaaay!

I hate AV's guts. Am ecstatic that he's gone.

Woooooooo!
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Posted 2018-04-08 8:33 AM (#702929 - in reply to #702896)
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I laugh every time I see that special asshole Mandar thing on your posts.
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Posted 2018-04-08 8:36 AM (#702931 - in reply to #702929)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2018-04-08 10:33 AM

I laugh every time I see that special asshole Mandar thing on your posts.

hahahahaha
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Posted 2018-04-08 8:37 AM (#702932 - in reply to #702896)
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Even on the way out AV went with the "it's not my fault" defense
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Posted 2018-04-08 8:44 AM (#702934 - in reply to #702896)
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LOL. Yeah, it was AV you a-hole. I know McIlrath hasn't caught on elsewhere but AV ruined the kids confidence. He played decent over a 34 game stretch, then was banished to the minors because he's not a puck moving defenseman. He was doing the same crap with Graves who clearly made the team out of camp. Gorton should have kept that kid IMO if he felt he would have canned AV. AV simply spit on any physical defenseman who wasn't good offensively. He was clueless. It's easy to call players busts. However, people forget that these players like McIlrath and Graves are kids. They lose their confidence really easily when they see the coach play rejects like Kampfer, DeAngelo, Sproul and Clendening over them. Not one of those 4 guys has any clue how to play defense. Any ability to clear the crease. Any ability to play physical hockey or consistently win puck battles.
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Posted 2018-04-08 8:51 AM (#702936 - in reply to #702896)
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Lol Yep true...Too bad JG couldnt see this sooner......UGH and all those #1's they gave away
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Posted 2018-04-08 8:52 AM (#702937 - in reply to #702896)
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Posted 2018-04-08 9:00 AM (#702939 - in reply to #702896)
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I don't really care about the NAME of the new coach. I do care that:
1. He holds players ALL accountable.
2. He insists on a forward and a defenseman (minimum) that will take the body and clear the crease.
3. He clears out all the junk (Desharnais, McLeod, Holland, Carey, O'Gara for starters).
4, He lets the players develop chemistry and stick with the lines.
5. He actually has a system that works, offensively and defensively.
6. He knows how to maximize a players ability.

And, most of all, 7. He is a proven winner, not a retread.
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Posted 2018-04-08 9:07 AM (#702942 - in reply to #702896)
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Posted 2018-04-08 9:12 AM (#702943 - in reply to #702896)
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Yeah, go young. Keefe # 1. Quinn # 2. That's how'd I rank them as a I said earlier.


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Posted 2018-04-08 9:39 AM (#702945 - in reply to #702920)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-08 9:31 AM

Im intrigued by Patrick Roy......He is prob a blast to play for...He's crazy...but his teams dont play defense......How great is it that AV got it right after the game? JG is not messing around
Please stop it.
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Posted 2018-04-08 9:41 AM (#702946 - in reply to #702896)
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AV of course was gone a long while ago just needed to get to the end. It was probably best that did not do the interim coach deal and spent time planning on who is next up.It would be great to snag the "next" up and coming young coach, no idea on the person. for old coaches Darryl Sutter kind of intrigues me not so much LA won and won often but he was gritty SOB when he played.
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Posted 2018-04-08 9:42 AM (#702947 - in reply to #702945)
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Blue404 - 2018-04-08 11:39 AM

Mikey Red - 2018-04-08 9:31 AM

Im intrigued by Patrick Roy......He is prob a blast to play for...He's crazy...but his teams dont play defense......How great is it that AV got it right after the game? JG is not messing around
Please stop it.

hahahaha wooo
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-08 9:44 AM (#702948 - in reply to #702896)
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Ill say it again.....I heard from a very reliable source....VERY....that we do not want Sutter....He said he's worse than Keenan
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Posted 2018-04-08 9:44 AM (#702949 - in reply to #702896)
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Blue when is your interview?
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Posted 2018-04-08 9:45 AM (#702950 - in reply to #702947)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-08 11:42 AM

Blue404 - 2018-04-08 11:39 AM

Mikey Red - 2018-04-08 9:31 AM

Im intrigued by Patrick Roy......He is prob a blast to play for...He's crazy...but his teams dont play defense......How great is it that AV got it right after the game? JG is not messing around
Please stop it.

hahahaha wooo
I am sure he can punch defenseless cornered women.
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Posted 2018-04-08 9:47 AM (#702951 - in reply to #702949)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-08 11:44 AM

Blue when is your interview?
You will be shocked but MSG is calling me to comeback to join n the blueseaters!

Edited by Blue404 2018-04-08 9:49 AM
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Posted 2018-04-08 9:53 AM (#702952 - in reply to #702951)
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Blue404 - 2018-04-08 11:47 AM

Mikey Red - 2018-04-08 11:44 AM

Blue when is your interview?
You will be shocked but MSG is calling me to comeback to join n the blueseaters!

Hahaha Yep...they want you to buy a row
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Posted 2018-04-08 9:59 AM (#702953 - in reply to #702896)
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Gorton and company are probably hard at work brainstorming exactly what qualities, and abilities they are looking for in the next coach. Maybe a nice hand written resume lol. There’s a lot more to it than the guy with a good recent record. O’keefe has been coaching a stacked Maple Leafs farm team since he got there. Not to say he’s not a good coach but you have to factor that into your evaluation. Tippet getting flogged already but what’s he ever had to work with. Again not to say he’s the coach in waiting but you have to look at his record and understand the mutts he had to work with.
Gorton hasn’t done much wrong in my opinion since he took over, except for his chewy coached Miller trade and the juries still out on that one. I have faith he will know after his management meetings exactly what he wants in a coach, and hopefully there will be a guy out there that meets all the check marks.
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Posted 2018-04-08 10:04 AM (#702954 - in reply to #702896)
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I love it that I havent read Gorton saying he wishes AV well and thanks for the 5 years....AV Get the F out and go away!
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Posted 2018-04-08 10:06 AM (#702955 - in reply to #702896)
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"I can only coach the players that are given to me" "It's JT fault"..."It's Henriks fault" " I forgot they were on the bench" etc....
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Posted 2018-04-08 10:26 AM (#702956 - in reply to #702955)
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Good read:
Vigneault never found a single reason to blame himself.
So Jeff Gorton had to do it for him.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.blueshirtbanter.com/platform/amp/20...
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Posted 2018-04-08 10:35 AM (#702957 - in reply to #702896)
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There is a God.

My favorite sports team is now free of the shadow that plagued it for 5 seasons. Should've won the Cup in '14. Should've made the Finals (and possibly won the Cup) in '15. Should've gotten past Ottawa last season. All because of the gum-chewing idiot who couldn't adjust to what other teams were doing and thought that constant line juggling was an appropriate response to being outcoached.

Let's not forget that Mr. It'sNotMyFault was given every high priced offensive defenseman that was available at the trading deadline and the PP still sucked and he still lost. Fvck him and good riddance. I hope that the car taking him to the airport gets two flat tires just outside of a local sports bar where angry Rangers fans can tell him their "thoughts".
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Posted 2018-04-08 10:36 AM (#702958 - in reply to #702896)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2018-04-08 10:44 AM

LOL. Yeah, it was AV you a-hole. I know McIlrath hasn't caught on elsewhere but AV ruined the kids confidence. He played decent over a 34 game stretch, then was banished to the minors because he's not a puck moving defenseman. He was doing the same crap with Graves who clearly made the team out of camp. Gorton should have kept that kid IMO if he felt he would have canned AV. AV simply spit on any physical defenseman who wasn't good offensively. He was clueless. It's easy to call players busts. However, people forget that these players like McIlrath and Graves are kids. They lose their confidence really easily when they see the coach play rejects like Kampfer, DeAngelo, Sproul and Clendening over them. Not one of those 4 guys has any clue how to play defense. Any ability to clear the crease. Any ability to play physical hockey or consistently win puck battles.


... and Hell has officially frozen over because I'm actually agreeing with everything he just said here.
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Posted 2018-04-08 10:41 AM (#702959 - in reply to #702956)
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Steady Eddie - 2018-04-08 12:26 PM

Good read:
Vigneault never found a single reason to blame himself.
So Jeff Gorton had to do it for him.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.blueshirtbanter.com/platform/amp/20...

Awesome article. This, among others, was reason enough to can this jerk:

And there’s the second problem: Vigneault never knew how to look at himself and realize the things he wanted to work weren’t actually working. That same year Skjei was sitting for critical moments in the playoffs the pairing of Nick Holden and Marc Staal was on the ice late for three blown playoff games with less than five minutes left. He kept putting them out there, including in overtimes and other critical moments. In said games Vigneault “lost” Skjei-Smith who were clearly his best pairing. The press never pressed why or asked what that meant.
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Posted 2018-04-08 10:56 AM (#702960 - in reply to #702956)
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Steady Eddie - 2018-04-08 12:26 PM

Good read:
Vigneault never found a single reason to blame himself.
So Jeff Gorton had to do it for him.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.blueshirtbanter.com/platform/amp/20...


Was reading this and I checked out the link for the article in Vancouver papers 5 years ago. Was surprised to see this in that article:

"Clearly, young players who were committed to defense first (like Tanev and Hansen) would be in the good books of Vigneault, while those with creative offensive instincts (Hodgson and Kassian) would be forever shackled."

Huh????
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Posted 2018-04-08 11:14 AM (#702961 - in reply to #702896)
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Posted 2018-04-08 11:17 AM (#702962 - in reply to #702896)
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I would go with Keefe or Quinn as I posted earlier. They would be my top 2. And I do not want Sutter, something about him concerns me. I prefer a young fresh coach, which is why I like Keefe and Quinn, but if they were dead set on a retread I'd have Tippett # 1.

I also agree Gorton has really done an excellent job here. Including Miller is the only move I question right now, and we'll see about that one. I really have loved what Gorton has done so far, and firing AV literally hours after the season ended shows how in tune he is with everything. No need to wait as he knew AV was a disaster and had to go, and his nonsense comments after the game yesterday showed how unstable he had become.

I believe Gorton goes with that fresh young coach, not a retread. And I believe we will be active around the draft (trading picks/RFA's to move up) and in free agency (smartly signing good vets to reasonable deals so we can be a solid team next season).

I love the path we are on and continue to have full faith in Gorton. In Gorton we trust.





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Posted 2018-04-08 11:47 AM (#702963 - in reply to #702896)
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If Sutter is similar to Keenan then need to pass. Never heard the dark side stuff but can believe it as he was one crazy SOB of a player. Actually hated the bastard.
Hopefully they have a short list and move with purpose. It is Gorton's party for sure but will be good to have a coach in place before set of next moves. Thinking buy in right form the start top down to the bottom.
Now the work real begins. Hopefully no more Banff summits just roll up the sleeves at MSG get this party started.
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Posted 2018-04-08 11:49 AM (#702964 - in reply to #702961)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-07 9:33 PM

AV Fired! Hoo Ray!



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Posted 2018-04-08 11:51 AM (#702965 - in reply to #702963)
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Gravey09 - 2018-04-08 1:47 PM

If Sutter is similar to Keenan then need to pass. Never heard the dark side stuff but can believe it as he was one crazy SOB of a player. Actually hated the bastard.
Hopefully they have a short list and move with purpose. It is Gorton's party for sure but will be good to have a coach in place before set of next moves. Thinking buy in right form the start top down to the bottom.
Now the work real begins. Hopefully no more Banff summits just roll up the sleeves at MSG get this party started.

Yep Party time! LGR!
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Posted 2018-04-08 11:52 AM (#702966 - in reply to #702896)
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I want Crazy Psycho Patrick Roy
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Posted 2018-04-08 12:14 PM (#702967 - in reply to #702966)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-08 1:52 PM

I want Crazy Psycho Patrick Roy
And I hope you lose the internet.
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Posted 2018-04-08 12:21 PM (#702968 - in reply to #702896)
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I just want a coach that plays a simple game. Stop switching up lines. Find something that works and stick with it. Play to the strengths of the players instead of trying to recreate them. Perhaps a college guy. Can we coax Red Berenson out of retirement?

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Posted 2018-04-08 12:47 PM (#702969 - in reply to #702967)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-08 1:52 PM

I want Crazy Psycho Patrick Roy
And I hope you lose the internet.

Lol Take it back
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Posted 2018-04-08 1:49 PM (#702970 - in reply to #702896)
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Good Video....but Gianone wants Erik Karlsson....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Posted 2018-04-08 2:29 PM (#702976 - in reply to #702896)
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One other comment on AV, for Gorton to fire him in the middle of the night at 11 PM on the same day as the final game tells me a lot. Gorton wanted nothing to do with AV anymore, and I am sure was totally fed up with his ridiculous ZERO accountability comments, and his mostly unhinged comments after the game yesterday. That was a big statement...firing him late last night. While I 100% thought AV was gone as I have been saying for a while, I did not think it would go down like that.

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Posted 2018-04-08 2:41 PM (#702977 - in reply to #702896)
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Once the rebuild started AV had to know that he was history. He seemed indifferent behind the bench, even more than usual. He even stopped chewing his damn gum. His post-game comments were self-promotional commercials aimed at potential employers next season:

"I'm doing the best I can with a roster decimated by injuries and deadline sell-offs."

Cutting him loose late last night was actually a courtesy by Gorton. AV was given a free ride back to NYC courtesy of the team. If it was me, I'd have fired him in the locker room after the final buzzer and made him pay for a flight back to MSG to clean out his office.

Many so-called experts in the NHL commentary business are saying that AV will get another job in coaching real soon. I beg to differ. I think his petulant and egocentric behavior this season combined with his atrocious performance against Ottawa last season will make potential employers steer away from AV. That said, I hope the Islanders hire him to replace Weight tomorrow. I would happy about being wrong in my prediction under those circumstances.
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Posted 2018-04-08 2:42 PM (#702978 - in reply to #702896)
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Yep....VERY telling.....Maybe Gorton found out that AV went back door to Sather or something
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Posted 2018-04-08 2:48 PM (#702979 - in reply to #702896)
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Yep and so called expert Colby Armstrong post game recently when the Rangers played on Wed night rivalry on NBCSN said Rangers should keep AV and Keith Jones said AV had to go
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To me the real downfall started in the Ottawa series. Until then I was okay with AV, but he absolutely killed us in that series, and was a huge reason we didn't beat a team we were clearly better than. If the Rangers had won that series I bet he is not fired today coming off another ECF run. There is no doubt in my mind that series started him down this path in Gorton's eyes. This season was a continuation of that terribly coached series by AV, and as much as this season that series led to his firing.


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The Rangers were poorly coached, you can blame this series, this move, that move, but it was more a constant accumulation of piss poor team play, structure, cohesion, and non existent adaptability. The ridiculous lack of use of acquired players, and young players. Last year was a terrible example of NHL hockey, another notch in the downfall of the Rangers post Tortorella. This year was a **** show.
I’m sure long before the Ottawa series Gorton concluded the Rangers had serious coaching issues and it just became a matter of the right time. Anyone watching that, knows a puck from a duck could see that. Starting the year with him for one last fling was not a surprise, when you now know Gorton planned a overhaul if the wheels came off. And once the Rangers concluded a rebuild was in order, they then accomplished everything they could during the season, and the only thing left to do at the end of the season, was dump the dope. Huge kudo’s to Gorton for not pissing around and getting this moron on a bus out of here. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out chewy.

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NYR # 1 - 2018-04-08 5:43 PM

To me the real downfall started in the Ottawa series. Until then I was okay with AV, but he absolutely killed us in that series, and was a huge reason we didn't beat a team we were clearly better than. If the Rangers had won that series I bet he is not fired today coming off another ECF run. There is no doubt in my mind that series started him down this path in Gorton's eyes. This season was a continuation of that terribly coached series by AV, and as much as this season that series led to his firing.


The Ottawa series was the final straw....AV had been making questionable moves long before that....his insistence on playing Tan-Tan and The Boil despite their putrid play was questioned repeatedly here and on other boards. Credit for AV's first season go to Torts and, as we saw, AV proceeded to tear apart a successful mix by instituting "pansy play" style. I'm not even going to mention his (lack of a) defensive scheme.

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Posted 2018-04-09 4:55 AM (#702989 - in reply to #702896)
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I'll agree and disagree Rranger. Not saying Gorton thought AV was the best coach in the world, but if that Ottawa series doesn't happen and AV makes the ECF again I really think he is still here. No way to know for sure, and again doesn't change the fact that he is a very questionable soft coach, but he would be here still if we win that series against a lesser opponent.

Just my opinion.


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NYR # 1 - 2018-04-09 4:55 AM

I'll agree and disagree Rranger. Not saying Gorton thought AV was the best coach in the world, but if that Ottawa series doesn't happen and AV makes the ECF again I really think he is still here. No way to know for sure, and again doesn't change the fact that he is a very questionable soft coach, but he would be here still if we win that series against a lesser opponent.

Just my opinion.




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Posted 2018-04-09 7:24 AM (#703005 - in reply to #702896)
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Rangerjunkie - 2018-04-09 9:03 AM

NYR # 1 - 2018-04-09 4:55 AM

I'll agree and disagree Rranger. Not saying Gorton thought AV was the best coach in the world, but if that Ottawa series doesn't happen and AV makes the ECF again I really think he is still here. No way to know for sure, and again doesn't change the fact that he is a very questionable soft coach, but he would be here still if we win that series against a lesser opponent.

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I'll agree and disagree Rranger. Not saying Gorton thought AV was the best coach in the world, but if that Ottawa series doesn't happen and AV makes the ECF again I really think he is still here. No way to know for sure, and again doesn't change the fact that he is a very questionable soft coach, but he would be here still if we win that series against a lesser opponent.

Just my opinion.






You can have a team get to the Eastern conference final and still have questionable coaching, and as a GM you know your coach has to go. But you still have to fire him at the right time. If the Rangers had beat Ottawa, its pretty obvious he's back to coach. As a GM you leave yourself open to criticism if you did fire him after last season, no matter what the result. In his own words he had built up some cachet with the team, based on previous performance, especially to a lot of the fanbase, although not many on here.
As I mentioned before it is very apparent Gorton had a plan going into this season and used chewy to see if there was any hope in the lineup they had to start the season. I think Gorton pretty much knew going into the season it was more likely to be a failed season and they were headed for a rebuild. Chewy was the perfect man to coach a season where you are expecting massive changes. I have little doubt Gorton made up his mind about him during last season and picked his time. A factor in bringing him back was not wanting to bring a new coach into the situation. Better to let things sort themselves out first.
Gorton did the honorable thing giving Chewy this year to try to restore some confidence in his abilities, he didn't, and swirled further into failure. If you notice on different fan perspectives now, there is very little resistance to him being fired. After last season he still had a strong following, so again in my opinion Gorton had a pretty good handle on letting chewy coach what was a go either way season as his last shot with the team. It was no lose for Gorton if Chewy had some success this season most would say they expected it, and chewys job is safe, but if he continued to fail Gorton would have the backing of everyone to fire him. He does and he did.
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Posted 2018-04-09 8:52 AM (#703019 - in reply to #702896)
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Arneil and Williams also gone...but not Ruff...still want to talk to him to see about his future etc...
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Posted 2018-04-09 9:00 AM (#703021 - in reply to #702999)
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Rangerjunkie - 2018-04-09 9:03 AM

NYR # 1 - 2018-04-09 4:55 AM

I'll agree and disagree Rranger. Not saying Gorton thought AV was the best coach in the world, but if that Ottawa series doesn't happen and AV makes the ECF again I really think he is still here. No way to know for sure, and again doesn't change the fact that he is a very questionable soft coach, but he would be here still if we win that series against a lesser opponent.

Just my opinion.




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I had similar thoughts.
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Arneil and Williams also gone...but not Ruff...still want to talk to him to see about his future etc...


This scares me. Ruff sucks.

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Press Conference is on now...check it out....Ruff is def NOT a candidate
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Posted 2018-04-09 9:06 AM (#703025 - in reply to #702896)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-09 10:05 AM

Press Conference is on now...check it out....Ruff is def NOT a candidate


Well good, but, why keep him around?
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-09 10:05 AM

Press Conference is on now...check it out....Ruff is def NOT a candidate


Well good, but, why keep him around?

Gorton gives the indication that he wants to hear what Ruff wants to do...maybe a job within the org?
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Press Conference is now over....Larry Brooks asked an interesting question....and It was definitely meant to be about Messier and Gorton said no
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-09 10:12 AM

Press Conference is now over....Larry Brooks asked an interesting question....and It was definitely meant to be about Messier and Gorton said no


Interesting... Trottier must have given him the photos he has of Sather
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Posted 2018-04-09 9:19 AM (#703033 - in reply to #702896)
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Posted 2018-04-09 9:19 AM (#703034 - in reply to #703012)
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Rranger - 2018-04-09 10:21 AM

NYR # 1 - 2018-04-09 3:55 AM

I'll agree and disagree Rranger. Not saying Gorton thought AV was the best coach in the world, but if that Ottawa series doesn't happen and AV makes the ECF again I really think he is still here. No way to know for sure, and again doesn't change the fact that he is a very questionable soft coach, but he would be here still if we win that series against a lesser opponent.

Just my opinion.






You can have a team get to the Eastern conference final and still have questionable coaching, and as a GM you know your coach has to go. But you still have to fire him at the right time. If the Rangers had beat Ottawa, its pretty obvious he's back to coach. As a GM you leave yourself open to criticism if you did fire him after last season, no matter what the result. In his own words he had built up some cachet with the team, based on previous performance, especially to a lot of the fanbase, although not many on here.
As I mentioned before it is very apparent Gorton had a plan going into this season and used chewy to see if there was any hope in the lineup they had to start the season. I think Gorton pretty much knew going into the season it was more likely to be a failed season and they were headed for a rebuild. Chewy was the perfect man to coach a season where you are expecting massive changes. I have little doubt Gorton made up his mind about him during last season and picked his time. A factor in bringing him back was not wanting to bring a new coach into the situation. Better to let things sort themselves out first.
Gorton did the honorable thing giving Chewy this year to try to restore some confidence in his abilities, he didn't, and swirled further into failure. If you notice on different fan perspectives now, there is very little resistance to him being fired. After last season he still had a strong following, so again in my opinion Gorton had a pretty good handle on letting chewy coach what was a go either way season as his last shot with the team. It was no lose for Gorton if Chewy had some success this season most would say they expected it, and chewys job is safe, but if he continued to fail Gorton would have the backing of everyone to fire him. He does and he did.


I'm curious -- was it Sather who gave AV the extension or Gorton?
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-09 10:12 AM

Press Conference is now over....Larry Brooks asked an interesting question....and It was definitely meant to be about Messier and Gorton said no


Larry asked if he would consider a coach who had not coached on any level and Gorton gave a soft no. Gorton doesn't seem to be emphatic in any of his answers, that's one thing I've noticed I don't like about him.

Also asked if they want a coach by the draft and Gorton said no, but probably by free agency. Which is somewhat encouraging to me about how Gorton views his responsibilities at the draft vs the role that a coach has in the organization.
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Posted 2018-04-09 9:31 AM (#703041 - in reply to #702896)
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Posted 2018-04-09 9:39 AM (#703043 - in reply to #702896)
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Posted 2018-04-09 11:36 AM (#703083 - in reply to #703012)
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NYR # 1 - 2018-04-09 3:55 AM

I'll agree and disagree Rranger. Not saying Gorton thought AV was the best coach in the world, but if that Ottawa series doesn't happen and AV makes the ECF again I really think he is still here. No way to know for sure, and again doesn't change the fact that he is a very questionable soft coach, but he would be here still if we win that series against a lesser opponent.

Just my opinion.






You can have a team get to the Eastern conference final and still have questionable coaching, and as a GM you know your coach has to go. But you still have to fire him at the right time. If the Rangers had beat Ottawa, its pretty obvious he's back to coach. As a GM you leave yourself open to criticism if you did fire him after last season, no matter what the result. In his own words he had built up some cachet with the team, based on previous performance, especially to a lot of the fanbase, although not many on here.
As I mentioned before it is very apparent Gorton had a plan going into this season and used chewy to see if there was any hope in the lineup they had to start the season. I think Gorton pretty much knew going into the season it was more likely to be a failed season and they were headed for a rebuild. Chewy was the perfect man to coach a season where you are expecting massive changes. I have little doubt Gorton made up his mind about him during last season and picked his time. A factor in bringing him back was not wanting to bring a new coach into the situation. Better to let things sort themselves out first.
Gorton did the honorable thing giving Chewy this year to try to restore some confidence in his abilities, he didn't, and swirled further into failure. If you notice on different fan perspectives now, there is very little resistance to him being fired. After last season he still had a strong following, so again in my opinion Gorton had a pretty good handle on letting chewy coach what was a go either way season as his last shot with the team. It was no lose for Gorton if Chewy had some success this season most would say they expected it, and chewys job is safe, but if he continued to fail Gorton would have the backing of everyone to fire him. He does and he did.

Whether they beat Ottawa or not would not make AV a better coach...I agree. You can get to the ECF and have questionable coaching. All I am saying, and there is no point in debating it since neither of us know, is if we did beat Ottawa last season AV would get another season here. Who knows if that is true, but that's my opinion. It is also my opinion that things started down the really bad road for AV with his terrible job in that Ottawa series.

Don't know what would have happened if we beat Ottawa. All I know is he's gone now, and that's good enough for me. We certainly agree there.




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Posted 2018-04-09 11:46 AM (#703084 - in reply to #702896)
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I would like to thank the New York Rangers management - Mr. James Dolan, Glen Sather and Jeff Gorton - for allowing me the privilege to coach the Rangers. I spent five wonderful years in New York and I want to express my gratitude to all the coaches, players and staff that I worked with during that period of my life. The Rangers have an incredible fan base and I will cherish many special moments, especially our trip to the Stanley Cup Finals. The Rangers are going in a different direction, I respect that and I wish them all the best. Thus far in my coaching career I am very grateful that I have had the privilege to work with three great organizations - Vancouver, and two Original Six teams with New York and Montreal. I have great respect for everyone in the media but for now please understand that I don't intend to comment any further, as I will regroup with my family. Thank you everyone for a great ride and life-lasting memories.

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AV's genial personality and good goalies kept AV around way beyond his sell by date. His doghouse rules were brutal and uneven. I am happy to say good bye to his ideas and style of play. I will always remember this season as the season of the over 40/no checking league.

I would love to see a coach who balances O and D. I would also see a coach who has players who finish checks and is not afraid if they take penalties for hits.
Unleash Kreider, Vesey, and Skjei. Fill in the roster with some angry wingers who won't get rag dolled in the corners and CLEAR THE FRIKKEN CREASE!!!!

Maybe on D they can find somebody like Andre Lussier or Gilmore Tuttle.
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This isn't worthy of a new thread so I'll just throw it in here.

Rangers change ECHL affiliate to Maine Mariners, a first year expansion team.


https://marinersofmaine.com/news/affiliation-announcement/
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That’s good for a profile pic Mikey.

Hahaha love it!
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This isn't worthy of a new thread so I'll just throw it in here.

Rangers change ECHL affiliate to Maine Mariners, a first year expansion team.


https://marinersofmaine.com/news/affiliation-announcement/

No more Swamp Rabbits
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Posted 2018-04-09 2:26 PM (#703100 - in reply to #703098)
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concust - 2018-04-09 3:48 PM

This isn't worthy of a new thread so I'll just throw it in here.

Rangers change ECHL affiliate to Maine Mariners, a first year expansion team.


https://marinersofmaine.com/news/affiliation-announcement/

No more Swamp Rabbits


For the most part ECHL is just a parking spot for extra young goaltenders anyway. Portland makes more geographic sense for any transfers between Maine and Hartford. This move should hardly impact the Rangers at all, and even Hartford minimally.

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NYR # 1 - 2018-04-08 5:43 PM

To me the real downfall started in the Ottawa series. Until then I was okay with AV, but he absolutely killed us in that series, and was a huge reason we didn't beat a team we were clearly better than. If the Rangers had won that series I bet he is not fired today coming off another ECF run. There is no doubt in my mind that series started him down this path in Gorton's eyes. This season was a continuation of that terribly coached series by AV, and as much as this season that series led to his firing.


The Ottawa series was the final straw....AV had been making questionable moves long before that....his insistence on playing Tan-Tan and The Boil despite their putrid play was questioned repeatedly here and on other boards. Credit for AV's first season go to Torts and, as we saw, AV proceeded to tear apart a successful mix by instituting "pansy play" style. I'm not even going to mention his (lack of a) defensive scheme.



For me, it was a little more than two years ago. Forget the game, but we are ahead by 1 goal with under a minute to play. We get called for icing. Chewey yells to McDonagh, "ARE YOU OKAY?" WTF??? Are you okay? Are you kidding me? Just call the fricken timeout! No, McDonagh nods okay, no timeout, they score and we lose in OT.

Yes, Ottawa was the final straw.
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Mjolnir - 2018-04-08 10:45 PM

NYR # 1 - 2018-04-08 5:43 PM

To me the real downfall started in the Ottawa series. Until then I was okay with AV, but he absolutely killed us in that series, and was a huge reason we didn't beat a team we were clearly better than. If the Rangers had won that series I bet he is not fired today coming off another ECF run. There is no doubt in my mind that series started him down this path in Gorton's eyes. This season was a continuation of that terribly coached series by AV, and as much as this season that series led to his firing.


The Ottawa series was the final straw....AV had been making questionable moves long before that....his insistence on playing Tan-Tan and The Boil despite their putrid play was questioned repeatedly here and on other boards. Credit for AV's first season go to Torts and, as we saw, AV proceeded to tear apart a successful mix by instituting "pansy play" style. I'm not even going to mention his (lack of a) defensive scheme.



For me, it was a little more than two years ago. Forget the game, but we are ahead by 1 goal with under a minute to play. We get called for icing. Chewey yells to McDonagh, "ARE YOU OKAY?" WTF??? Are you okay? Are you kidding me? Just call the fricken timeout! No, McDonagh nods okay, no timeout, they score and we lose in OT.

Yes, Ottawa was the final straw.







For me it was the day after he was hired. I didn’t Want him in the first place. Saw enough of his show in Vancouver to know what was coming. He will get another job and I hope the team only has average goaltending, then we will see where the bear ****s in the woods.
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Interesting to read some of Gorton’s comments today. In my mind most notably that they were going to do their due diligence, interview their candidates then circle back to Lindy Ruff. That’s a surprising bit of info from Gorton, something he probably should have kept quiet about. But it does explain why Ruff is still here. So there you have a bit of a bar, can a different coach do a better job than they perceive Ruff will do. I’m assuming Schonfeld and Drury are firmly in Ruffs corner and that’s going to carry significant weight during the process.
Now the disclaimer “”” I didn’t say that about Ruff “”” Just reporting the facts.
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Rranger - 2018-04-09 7:30 PM

Interesting to read some of Gorton’s comments today. In my mind most notably that they were going to do their due diligence, interview their candidates then circle back to Lindy Ruff. That’s a surprising bit of info from Gorton, something he probably should have kept quiet about. But it does explain why Ruff is still here. So there you have a bit of a bar, can a different coach do a better job than they perceive Ruff will do. I’m assuming Schonfeld and Drury are firmly in Ruffs corner and that’s going to carry significant weight during the process.
Now the disclaimer “”” I didn’t say that about Ruff “”” Just reporting the facts.


I heard nothing of the sort about Ruff. Are you trying to read between the lines? Sounded more like "give Lindy time to decide if he wants another job in the organ-eye-zation because he's not getting the coaching job"
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Rranger - 2018-04-09 7:30 PM

Interesting to read some of Gorton’s comments today. In my mind most notably that they were going to do their due diligence, interview their candidates then circle back to Lindy Ruff. That’s a surprising bit of info from Gorton, something he probably should have kept quiet about. But it does explain why Ruff is still here. So there you have a bit of a bar, can a different coach do a better job than they perceive Ruff will do. I’m assuming Schonfeld and Drury are firmly in Ruffs corner and that’s going to carry significant weight during the process.
Now the disclaimer “”” I didn’t say that about Ruff “”” Just reporting the facts.


I heard nothing of the sort about Ruff. Are you trying to read between the lines? Sounded more like "give Lindy time to decide if he wants another job in the organ-eye-zation because he's not getting the coaching job"



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On Lindy Ruff, "I just had a brief conversation with him today. He will head home and then we will talk in a few weeks and see where things are at. I will talk with some people and see where they fit for head coach and then we will talk to Lindy at the end of the process."”””



Nope that’s exactly what he said.



Here is the whole article.




https://www.sny.tv/rangers/news/what-jeff-gorton-said-on-the-radio-m...


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I think Gorton said fresh voice a bunch of times meaning a young coach.
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AV's genial personality and good goalies kept AV around way beyond his sell by date. His doghouse rules were brutal and uneven. I am happy to say good bye to his ideas and style of play. I will always remember this season as the season of the over 40/no checking league.

I would love to see a coach who balances O and D. I would also see a coach who has players who finish checks and is not afraid if they take penalties for hits.
Unleash Kreider, Vesey, and Skjei. Fill in the roster with some angry wingers who won't get rag dolled in the corners and CLEAR THE FRIKKEN CREASE!!!!

Maybe on D they can find somebody like Andre Lussier or Gilmore Tuttle.


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NYR # 1 - 2018-04-09 4:55 AM

I'll agree and disagree Rranger. Not saying Gorton thought AV was the best coach in the world, but if that Ottawa series doesn't happen and AV makes the ECF again I really think he is still here. No way to know for sure, and again doesn't change the fact that he is a very questionable soft coach, but he would be here still if we win that series against a lesser opponent.

Just my opinion.




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I don't see that. Based on where we are and all that Gorton said I believe a young fresh face will be hired. Someone who has college/minors HC experience.



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I feel like one of these alumni are going to be on the coaching staff. Brian Leetch or Drury maybe


Drury's too smart for the job and Leetch wouldn't want it.

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I sort of have a gut feeling that Gorton will go for some young gun.
That's why he kept Ruff around - he'll be the mentor of sorts.
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"John Tortorella, Blue Jackets: Unlikely to become available, but if somehow he does if Columbus goes down early, Rangers could become interested in reunion."
https://nypost.com/2018/04/08/ten-candidates-who-could-become-ranger...

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Only if Sean Avery is his assistant, reporting directly to Gorton. The fireworks would be the price of admission.
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I sort of have a gut feeling that Gorton will go for some young gun.
That's why he kept Ruff around - he'll be the mentor of sorts.


A guy you don't want to coach your team, is the guy you want to mentor your young coach?

That makes zero sense to me.
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Ruff needs to go, the game has passed him by
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DaTeL - 2018-04-11 1:12 PM

I sort of have a gut feeling that Gorton will go for some young gun.
That's why he kept Ruff around - he'll be the mentor of sorts.


A guy you don't want to coach your team, is the guy you want to mentor your young coach?

That makes zero sense to me.

Not saying it makes complete sense to me.
Just seems like Gorton likes something about Ruff and wants him to stay.
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I think it’s exactly like Gorton said. He’s going to interview the candidates and then circle back to Ruff. If no one seizes the job which Gorton also wants to happen, then make no mistake Ruff will be the coach. At this point he’s plan B, if the search Plan A doesn’t pan out. Not firing him keeps him away from other teams til Gorton gets his diligence done on other candidates. In essence in Gorton’s pecking order Ruff is the bar. But even if they did hire Ruff as head coach, it would likely be with a understanding they need him focused on developing young talent, all the while Gorton continues his search for a coach to take the team into contender status. And I certainly don’t think at this point Ruff is the guy for that, but as far as following a game plan and season plan developing the kids, he’d probably be fine for the next two seasons if need be. Better Ruff doing that than bringing a young gun coach in and have him fall on his face the next couple of years stinking up the development of the young players.
I am glad to see Gorton pursuing a coach with some adaptability and more well rounded in his ability to teach than the tunnel vision dope that’s thankfully gone. He just might not find him now. It might have to wait a year or two for the right candidate to be available. And it’s going to be the third year before this rebuild takes off, basically because the talent on defense is as bad as I’ve seen in a long long time and until Lindgren, Hajek, and future picks step up, the Rangers have one of the worst cores in the NHL. If Shattenkirk is not Bobby Orr next season the Rangers are going nowhere, because Skjei, Pionk, and Staal are taking them there. Nothing the matter with a teacher coach til the winner coach is found. I don’t even know if Ruff is the guy to be the teacher, but your soon going to know.
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Personally I see zero chance Ruff is the coach. But Ruff is a good hockey man. Has had good success in his career as a coach...and he is not an AV guy. Spending one year as an assistant does not make him and AV guy (for all we know Gorton forced Ruff on AV).

To me the much more likely scenario is Gorton values Ruff's hockey knowledge. Thinks he has a lot to add. Wants to keep him around to get his perspective on things. Maybe he stays an assistant. Maybe he has some other role in the organization. That's how I read the situation. I would be absolutely shocked if Ruff was the head coach...shocked.


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I think it’s exactly like Gorton said. He’s going to interview the candidates and then circle back to Ruff. If no one seizes the job which Gorton also wants to happen, then make no mistake Ruff will be the coach. At this point he’s plan B, if the search Plan A doesn’t pan out. Not firing him keeps him away from other teams til Gorton gets his diligence done on other candidates. In essence in Gorton’s pecking order Ruff is the bar. But even if they did hire Ruff as head coach, it would likely be with a understanding they need him focused on developing young talent, all the while Gorton continues his search for a coach to take the team into contender status. And I certainly don’t think at this point Ruff is the guy for that, but as far as following a game plan and season plan developing the kids, he’d probably be fine for the next two seasons if need be. Better Ruff doing that than bringing a young gun coach in and have him fall on his face the next couple of years stinking up the development of the young players.
I am glad to see Gorton pursuing a coach with some adaptability and more well rounded in his ability to teach than the tunnel vision dope that’s thankfully gone. He just might not find him now. It might have to wait a year or two for the right candidate to be available. And it’s going to be the third year before this rebuild takes off, basically because the talent on defense is as bad as I’ve seen in a long long time and until Lindgren, Hajek, and future picks step up, the Rangers have one of the worst cores in the NHL. If Shattenkirk is not Bobby Orr next season the Rangers are going nowhere, because Skjei, Pionk, and Staal are taking them there. Nothing the matter with a teacher coach til the winner coach is found. I don’t even know if Ruff is the guy to be the teacher, but your soon going to know.




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NYR # 1 - 2018-04-11 4:58 PM

Personally I see zero chance Ruff is the coach. But Ruff is a good hockey man. Has had good success in his career as a coach...and he is not an AV guy. Spending one year as an assistant does not make him and AV guy (for all we know Gorton forced Ruff on AV).

To me the much more likely scenario is Gorton values Ruff's hockey knowledge. Thinks he has a lot to add. Wants to keep him around to get his perspective on things. Maybe he stays an assistant. Maybe he has some other role in the organization. That's how I read the situation. I would be absolutely shocked if Ruff was the head coach...shocked.








At this point in Ruffs career he’s probably done with his one year experience as a Assistant coach. It says a lot about a guy with his experience taking the position I’m sure thinking he could learn from Vigneault and his style of play. He doesn’t need the money and wasn’t there to collect a paycheque, it was all about growing as a coach. Personally I see zero chance Ruff is still here because he agreed to stay on as a advisor or as a Assistant to who knows who. There is a good likelihood of a fair number of head coaching jobs coming up, alll of which Ruff would be on the interview list.
Pretty sure Ruff would be a lot more interested in pursuing one of them than being Gorton’s jo boy.
Time will tell, but me doubts Ruff would agree to stick around for anything less than becoming a head coach again. Basically the promise would be he will get a interview, and probably learn his fate in plenty of time to pursue other opportunities.
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I think it’s exactly like Gorton said. He’s going to interview the candidates and then circle back to Ruff. If no one seizes the job which Gorton also wants to happen, then make no mistake Ruff will be the coach. At this point he’s plan B, if the search Plan A doesn’t pan out. Not firing him keeps him away from other teams til Gorton gets his diligence done on other candidates. In essence in Gorton’s pecking order Ruff is the bar. But even if they did hire Ruff as head coach, it would likely be with a understanding they need him focused on developing young talent, all the while Gorton continues his search for a coach to take the team into contender status. And I certainly don’t think at this point Ruff is the guy for that, but as far as following a game plan and season plan developing the kids, he’d probably be fine for the next two seasons if need be. Better Ruff doing that than bringing a young gun coach in and have him fall on his face the next couple of years stinking up the development of the young players.
I am glad to see Gorton pursuing a coach with some adaptability and more well rounded in his ability to teach than the tunnel vision dope that’s thankfully gone. He just might not find him now. It might have to wait a year or two for the right candidate to be available. And it’s going to be the third year before this rebuild takes off, basically because the talent on defense is as bad as I’ve seen in a long long time and until Lindgren, Hajek, and future picks step up, the Rangers have one of the worst cores in the NHL. If Shattenkirk is not Bobby Orr next season the Rangers are going nowhere, because Skjei, Pionk, and Staal are taking them there. Nothing the matter with a teacher coach til the winner coach is found. I don’t even know if Ruff is the guy to be the teacher, but your soon going to know.




I wonder how many pages each.




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Rranger - 2018-04-11 7:46 PM

I think it’s exactly like Gorton said. He’s going to interview the candidates and then circle back to Ruff. If no one seizes the job which Gorton also wants to happen, then make no mistake Ruff will be the coach. At this point he’s plan B, if the search Plan A doesn’t pan out. Not firing him keeps him away from other teams til Gorton gets his diligence done on other candidates. In essence in Gorton’s pecking order Ruff is the bar. But even if they did hire Ruff as head coach, it would likely be with a understanding they need him focused on developing young talent, all the while Gorton continues his search for a coach to take the team into contender status. And I certainly don’t think at this point Ruff is the guy for that, but as far as following a game plan and season plan developing the kids, he’d probably be fine for the next two seasons if need be. Better Ruff doing that than bringing a young gun coach in and have him fall on his face the next couple of years stinking up the development of the young players.
I am glad to see Gorton pursuing a coach with some adaptability and more well rounded in his ability to teach than the tunnel vision dope that’s thankfully gone. He just might not find him now. It might have to wait a year or two for the right candidate to be available. And it’s going to be the third year before this rebuild takes off, basically because the talent on defense is as bad as I’ve seen in a long long time and until Lindgren, Hajek, and future picks step up, the Rangers have one of the worst cores in the NHL. If Shattenkirk is not Bobby Orr next season the Rangers are going nowhere, because Skjei, Pionk, and Staal are taking them there. Nothing the matter with a teacher coach til the winner coach is found. I don’t even know if Ruff is the guy to be the teacher, but your soon going to know.




I wonder how many pages each.




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I think it’s exactly like Gorton said. He’s going to interview the candidates and then circle back to Ruff. If no one seizes the job which Gorton also wants to happen, then make no mistake Ruff will be the coach. At this point he’s plan B, if the search Plan A doesn’t pan out. Not firing him keeps him away from other teams til Gorton gets his diligence done on other candidates. In essence in Gorton’s pecking order Ruff is the bar. But even if they did hire Ruff as head coach, it would likely be with a understanding they need him focused on developing young talent, all the while Gorton continues his search for a coach to take the team into contender status. And I certainly don’t think at this point Ruff is the guy for that, but as far as following a game plan and season plan developing the kids, he’d probably be fine for the next two seasons if need be. Better Ruff doing that than bringing a young gun coach in and have him fall on his face the next couple of years stinking up the development of the young players.
I am glad to see Gorton pursuing a coach with some adaptability and more well rounded in his ability to teach than the tunnel vision dope that’s thankfully gone. He just might not find him now. It might have to wait a year or two for the right candidate to be available. And it’s going to be the third year before this rebuild takes off, basically because the talent on defense is as bad as I’ve seen in a long long time and until Lindgren, Hajek, and future picks step up, the Rangers have one of the worst cores in the NHL. If Shattenkirk is not Bobby Orr next season the Rangers are going nowhere, because Skjei, Pionk, and Staal are taking them there. Nothing the matter with a teacher coach til the winner coach is found. I don’t even know if Ruff is the guy to be the teacher, but your soon going to know.




I wonder how many pages each.




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Aha this direction.
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I think it’s exactly like Gorton said. He’s going to interview the candidates and then circle back to Ruff. If no one seizes the job which Gorton also wants to happen, then make no mistake Ruff will be the coach. At this point he’s plan B, if the search Plan A doesn’t pan out. Not firing him keeps him away from other teams til Gorton gets his diligence done on other candidates. In essence in Gorton’s pecking order Ruff is the bar. But even if they did hire Ruff as head coach, it would likely be with a understanding they need him focused on developing young talent, all the while Gorton continues his search for a coach to take the team into contender status. And I certainly don’t think at this point Ruff is the guy for that, but as far as following a game plan and season plan developing the kids, he’d probably be fine for the next two seasons if need be. Better Ruff doing that than bringing a young gun coach in and have him fall on his face the next couple of years stinking up the development of the young players.
I am glad to see Gorton pursuing a coach with some adaptability and more well rounded in his ability to teach than the tunnel vision dope that’s thankfully gone. He just might not find him now. It might have to wait a year or two for the right candidate to be available. And it’s going to be the third year before this rebuild takes off, basically because the talent on defense is as bad as I’ve seen in a long long time and until Lindgren, Hajek, and future picks step up, the Rangers have one of the worst cores in the NHL. If Shattenkirk is not Bobby Orr next season the Rangers are going nowhere, because Skjei, Pionk, and Staal are taking them there. Nothing the matter with a teacher coach til the winner coach is found. I don’t even know if Ruff is the guy to be the teacher, but your soon going to know.




I wonder how many pages each.




Etche sketch.
Aha this direction.
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We are quicker.

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We would have a Stanley Cup against LA if we had a players with balls but then you add a coach to it also without a pair the outcome was inevitable.

And a goalie that could stop the puck in the clutch
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Posted 2018-04-11 7:25 PM (#703191 - in reply to #703189)
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We would have a Stanley Cup against LA if we had a players with balls but then you add a coach to it also without a pair the outcome was inevitable.

And a goalie that could stop the puck in the clutch
Richter got lucky against Vancouver but Henke had no D in front of him.
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Philadelphia goalie is still in the shower or had family emergency.

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We would have a Stanley Cup against LA if we had a players with balls but then you add a coach to it also without a pair the outcome was inevitable.

And a goalie that could stop the puck in the clutch
Richter got lucky against Vancouver but Henke had no D in front of him.

Richter was a God that year....he got the job done......G6 in NJ was 5-0 in the 1st period if not for him
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Posted 2018-04-11 7:28 PM (#703194 - in reply to #702896)
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Posted 2018-04-11 7:29 PM (#703195 - in reply to #703193)
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We would have a Stanley Cup against LA if we had a players with balls but then you add a coach to it also without a pair the outcome was inevitable.

And a goalie that could stop the puck in the clutch
Richter got lucky against Vancouver but Henke had no D in front of him.

Richter was a God that year....he got the job done......G6 in NJ was 5-0 in the 1st period if not for him
Yes.
I specifically meant game 7 against Trevor Linden & Co.
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We would have a Stanley Cup against LA if we had a players with balls but then you add a coach to it also without a pair the outcome was inevitable.

And a goalie that could stop the puck in the clutch
Richter got lucky against Vancouver but Henke had no D in front of him.

Richter was a God that year....he got the job done......G6 in NJ was 5-0 in the 1st period if not for him
Yes.
I specifically meant game 7 against Trevor Linden & Co.

Yep we were out of gas and held on for dear life
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We would have a Stanley Cup against LA if we had a players with balls but then you add a coach to it also without a pair the outcome was inevitable.

And a goalie that could stop the puck in the clutch
Richter got lucky against Vancouver but Henke had no D in front of him.

Richter was a God that year....he got the job done......G6 in NJ was 5-0 in the 1st period if not for him
Yes.
I specifically meant game 7 against Trevor Linden & Co.

Yep we were out of gas and held on for dear life
Against LA we were out of gas after 2 games.
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Posted 2018-04-11 8:16 PM (#703204 - in reply to #702896)
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Posted 2018-04-11 10:45 PM (#703205 - in reply to #702896)
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I don’t know who on Columbus decided William Karlsson was not worth keeping and they would expose him to Vegas, even after ponying up a first and a second. They did slide Clarksons contract to Vegas, but someone should be fired for letting Karlson get away. For the price they pa8d to protect players I’m sure they could have insisted on keeping Karlson.
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Posted 2018-04-12 7:57 AM (#703207 - in reply to #703205)
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I don’t know who on Columbus decided William Karlsson was not worth keeping and they would expose him to Vegas, even after ponying up a first and a second. They did slide Clarksons contract to Vegas, but someone should be fired for letting Karlson get away. For the price they pa8d to protect players I’m sure they could have insisted on keeping Karlson.


You must have some crystal ball there. His prior 2 seasons:

2015-16 - 81 games, 9 goals; 11 assists
2016-17 - 81 games, 6 goals; 19 assists

The guy had never scored more than 15 goals in any season anywhere. And you think someone on Columbus should be fired cause they couldn't predict that he would score almost 3 times more goals in this season than his prior two combined?

You need to share your magic crystal ball....lend it to Gorton for a bit.
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Posted 2018-04-12 9:43 AM (#703209 - in reply to #702896)
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The guy has almost a 24% shooting percentage. That's impossibly high and unsustainable. Which means a lot of his 40-something goals are luck. That's not to say they don't count, but just don't expect him to shoot 24% every year.

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Posted 2018-04-12 9:44 AM (#703210 - in reply to #702896)
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Not only that but he only wins 48% FO so he sucks there too
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Posted 2018-04-12 9:58 AM (#703211 - in reply to #703207)
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I don’t know who on Columbus decided William Karlsson was not worth keeping and they would expose him to Vegas, even after ponying up a first and a second. They did slide Clarksons contract to Vegas, but someone should be fired for letting Karlson get away. For the price they pa8d to protect players I’m sure they could have insisted on keeping Karlson.


You must have some crystal ball there. His prior 2 seasons:

2015-16 - 81 games, 9 goals; 11 assists
2016-17 - 81 games, 6 goals; 19 assists

The guy had never scored more than 15 goals in any season anywhere. And you think someone on Columbus should be fired cause they couldn't predict that he would score almost 3 times more goals in this season than his prior two combined?

You need to share your magic crystal ball....lend it to Gorton for a bit.






I presume based on your moronic response, somewhere in my post you imagined you read "I said" he was going to score 40 some odd goals. So I didn't write anything where I'd have needed a crystal ball. You really need to respond to the written post, not some imaginary crap you dream up.
You sound like your the one that would fit in at Columbus if you think they use a crystal ball. Whether you know it or not, and obviously you don't, NHL teams hire the best talent assessors they can who's job is evaluate talent. Think about that for a second, they hire people to evaluate players present and, just for you their FUTURE potential. And here's the kicker that's all some of those people do. And just so you know they do it at all levels of professional sports, and they get paid really well to do it, and if they don't do it well they "gasp" get fired. . I'm a little surprised you haven't heard about it its not exactly new.
Columbus dropped the ball, end of story.
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Posted 2018-04-12 10:19 AM (#703212 - in reply to #703211)
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I don’t know who on Columbus decided William Karlsson was not worth keeping and they would expose him to Vegas, even after ponying up a first and a second. They did slide Clarksons contract to Vegas, but someone should be fired for letting Karlson get away. For the price they pa8d to protect players I’m sure they could have insisted on keeping Karlson.


You must have some crystal ball there. His prior 2 seasons:

2015-16 - 81 games, 9 goals; 11 assists
2016-17 - 81 games, 6 goals; 19 assists

The guy had never scored more than 15 goals in any season anywhere. And you think someone on Columbus should be fired cause they couldn't predict that he would score almost 3 times more goals in this season than his prior two combined?

You need to share your magic crystal ball....lend it to Gorton for a bit.


I presume based on your moronic response, somewhere in my post you imagined you read "I said" he was going to score 40 some odd goals. So I didn't write anything where I'd have needed a crystal ball. You really need to respond to the written post, not some imaginary crap you dream up.
You sound like your the one that would fit in at Columbus if you think they use a crystal ball. Whether you know it or not, and obviously you don't, NHL teams hire the best talent assessors they can who's job is evaluate talent. Think about that for a second, they hire people to evaluate players present and, just for you their FUTURE potential. And here's the kicker that's all some of those people do. And just so you know they do it at all levels of professional sports, and they get paid really well to do it, and if they don't do it well they "gasp" get fired. . I'm a little surprised you haven't heard about it its not exactly new.
Columbus dropped the ball, end of story.


First you said: "but someone should be fired for letting Karlson get away". Now you say...."So I didn't write anything where I'd have needed a crystal ball" and "their FUTURE potential".

Could one infer that you are saying that CBJ should have somehow known he had the FUTURE potential to have a 43 goal season when he never scored anywhere near that amount before? You babble about teams having personnel who do evaluations about players....are you of the opinion that other organizations would have seen this 43 goal potential? Your above blather must be one of the best Monday Morning Quarterbacking explanations of all time.

You must be one of those guys that get all the scores predicted correctly the day after the games are played. Pretty sharp.
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Posted 2018-04-12 10:30 AM (#703213 - in reply to #702896)
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So the pages don't get to long, and also so you can maybe keep up. I'll keep it short for you.

1) somebody's probably will get fired, or at the very least do some verbal stickhandling to keep their jobs.

2) Its their job, try to wrap your pea brain about that. They are talent evaluators.
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Posted 2018-04-12 1:39 PM (#703215 - in reply to #703213)
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So the pages don't get to long, and also so you can maybe keep up. I'll keep it short for you.

1) somebody's probably will get fired, or at the very least do some verbal stickhandling to keep their jobs.

2) Its their job, try to wrap your pea brain about that. They are talent evaluators.

In deference to your concern about bandwidth, I'll keep this short.

1) who's getting fired for not predicting the guy who scored 15 goals in his last 162 games with CBJ would get 43 for Vegas? The team astrologist?

2) Again I ask you...in your opinion, do you think that other teams would have predicted 43 goals from him? If so, then by all means....axe him. Your precious "talent evaluators" didn't seem to evaluate 43 from him....if there was, why weren't teams lining up to trade for him?

You're fighting a losing battle here. Or are you being obtuse, Warden?
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Posted 2018-04-12 2:41 PM (#703216 - in reply to #703215)
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You're fighting a losing battle here. Or are you being obtuse, Warden?


You do know you must pay royalties for using my verbiage.
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Posted 2018-04-12 3:23 PM (#703217 - in reply to #702896)
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I think I’ve solved your problem. It’s called reading and comprehension. Personally I think your just stupid, so I won’t blame the educational system where you grew up.
Which simply explains why you can’t comprehend the statements.

“”I don’t know who on Columbus decided William Karlsson was not worth keeping and they would expose him to Vegas.””””
“””” Someone should be fired for letting Karlsson get away”””

Is that really that hard to understand. Again the team talent evaluators missed the boat that’s the discussion, Karlsson could have scored 30 goals and up and my point would still stand, someone, ones underestimated this guys future. You got your head wrapped around anyone predicting 43 goals out of him which is probably an abnormally, but he did it and there is little doubt his days as a 15 goal scorer over two seasons are long gone. Columbus talent evaluators are PAID to predict that. The thing you don’t get and I’ve already concluded why, and it just keeps zipping over your head is the fact this guy had upside, Columbus missed it. I’m sure they could have added him to their trade generated side protected list, after all according to your crystal ball, why would Vegas want him. Forget about the total of 43 goals and wrap your melon around the fact the guy blossomed into a hell of a hockey player, and try to focus on the fact Columbus should have been able to conclude he might have some serious upside in his future. Somebody concluded he didn’t have enough to keep.
In your dream world J.D. and the Columbus GM are bumbling around babbling now that their was no way they could have predicted serious growth in Karlsson game. Great way to run a hockey team and manage expectations of the people who again are paid to evaluate.




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Posted 2018-04-12 3:49 PM (#703218 - in reply to #702896)
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I'm interested to see what they end up doing with the new coach. I thought it would be a given that Ruff gets the nod, but apparently not.

Hope springs eternal though. The team could surprise like it did the last time they "downsized" and roared into the postseason on the back of one rookie Swedish goalie. You never know...
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Posted 2018-04-13 9:09 AM (#703222 - in reply to #703217)
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Again the team talent evaluators missed the boat that’s the discussion, Karlsson could have scored 30 goals and up and my point would still stand, someone, ones underestimated this guys future.


All 30 teams passed on him in the first round. They all underestimated his potential.
Ducks then traded him away to CBJ, so they are doubly culpable, because he was their property and they underestimated his potential.
CBJ made an asset trade (which they probably regret), so they are also doubly culpable in underestimating his potential and their own asset.

So yes did CBJ underestimate his potential? Absolutely. So did every other team at some point. Then again no one sees 24% shooting percentages in the future. Hindsight sure is 20/20.

Wanna make a bet? I bet he scores fewer than 20 in 2018-19. What does your crystal ball say?

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Again the team talent evaluators missed the boat that’s the discussion, Karlsson could have scored 30 goals and up and my point would still stand, someone, ones underestimated this guys future.


All 30 teams passed on him in the first round. They all underestimated his potential.
Ducks then traded him away to CBJ, so they are doubly culpable, because he was their property and they underestimated his potential.
CBJ made an asset trade (which they probably regret), so they are also doubly culpable in underestimating his potential and their own asset.

So yes did CBJ underestimate his potential? Absolutely. So did every other team at some point. Then again no one sees 24% shooting percentages in the future. Hindsight sure is 20/20.

Wanna make a bet? I bet he scores fewer than 20 in 2018-19. What does your crystal ball say?








So now it was ok to move him because he wasn’t drafted in the first round. Right. Comparing his potential at draft age to his potential after a couple seasons in the NHL is ridiculous. Columbus had every opportunity to know what they had and missed the call. Ducks are also culpable because they traded him in a package for highly regarded at the time James Wasnewski, sure. Try to understand the difference between giving a guy away Columbus and trading a guy away Anaheim.
His assists this season were way above anything he’d done before also. So he’s not just some goal scorer who had a unlikely sustainable shooting % he also racked up 35 assists. I guess no one saw that either. But in your mind that was a fluke also and his line mates were udoubtably running around racking up career high shooting %’s to justify it.
If a team gets rid of a guy that racks up 43 goals and 35 assists the next season at 25 they need to review their player personnel people.
And I don’t need a crystal ball to see that.

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Posted 2018-04-13 10:47 AM (#703229 - in reply to #702896)
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I think he probably will sign with one of Canadian teams. Oilers, Flames, Ottawa. One thing is for sure he won't be without work for long.
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Caps rolled the dice with Grubauer...intertesting






Now what do they do?
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-13 10:24 AM

Caps rolled the dice with Grubauer...intertesting






Now what do they do?

Yep...Very interesting
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Again the team talent evaluators missed the boat that’s the discussion, Karlsson could have scored 30 goals and up and my point would still stand, someone, ones underestimated this guys future.


All 30 teams passed on him in the first round. They all underestimated his potential.
Ducks then traded him away to CBJ, so they are doubly culpable, because he was their property and they underestimated his potential.
CBJ made an asset trade (which they probably regret), so they are also doubly culpable in underestimating his potential and their own asset.

So yes did CBJ underestimate his potential? Absolutely. So did every other team at some point. Then again no one sees 24% shooting percentages in the future. Hindsight sure is 20/20.

Wanna make a bet? I bet he scores fewer than 20 in 2018-19. What does your crystal ball say?








So now it was ok to move him because he wasn’t drafted in the first round. Right. Comparing his potential at draft age to his potential after a couple seasons in the NHL is ridiculous. Columbus had every opportunity to know what they had and missed the call. Ducks are also culpable because they traded him in a package for highly regarded at the time James Wasnewski, sure. Try to understand the difference between giving a guy away Columbus and trading a guy away Anaheim.
His assists this season were way above anything he’d done before also. So he’s not just some goal scorer who had a unlikely sustainable shooting % he also racked up 35 assists. I guess no one saw that either. But in your mind that was a fluke also and his line mates were udoubtably running around racking up career high shooting %’s to justify it.
If a team gets rid of a guy that racks up 43 goals and 35 assists the next season at 25 they need to review their player personnel people.
And I don’t need a crystal ball to see that.


You're making it sound like something is wrong with the scout of every NHL team because no one saw that somewhere down the road, this player would rack up career numbers after two full seasons where he put up putrid numbers? What did these scouts miss?

I don't think there's a scout in the world who could have told you that he would go to LV and promptly put up those numbers. They would have to know in advance (a) that he was going to end up in Vegas and (b) they would have to know who his line mates would be as well as the type of system he'd be going to. Without this information, all anyone can do is make an educated guess based on the old "what have you done lately" theory....and from all accounts, everyone came to the same answer: "not much". I doubt LV management can admit with a straight fact that they knew what would happen.

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Posted 2018-04-13 5:24 PM (#703242 - in reply to #702896)
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Guys without taken anybody's side, do u think that he might be just one season wonder... True greatness can be accepted only if he would continue to play with the same results. Just a thought.
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Posted 2018-04-13 6:07 PM (#703244 - in reply to #703240)
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Rranger - 2018-04-12 4:23 PM
Again the team talent evaluators missed the boat that’s the discussion, Karlsson could have scored 30 goals and up and my point would still stand, someone, ones underestimated this guys future.


All 30 teams passed on him in the first round. They all underestimated his potential.
Ducks then traded him away to CBJ, so they are doubly culpable, because he was their property and they underestimated his potential.
CBJ made an asset trade (which they probably regret), so they are also doubly culpable in underestimating his potential and their own asset.

So yes did CBJ underestimate his potential? Absolutely. So did every other team at some point. Then again no one sees 24% shooting percentages in the future. Hindsight sure is 20/20.

Wanna make a bet? I bet he scores fewer than 20 in 2018-19. What does your crystal ball say?








So now it was ok to move him because he wasn’t drafted in the first round. Right. Comparing his potential at draft age to his potential after a couple seasons in the NHL is ridiculous. Columbus had every opportunity to know what they had and missed the call. Ducks are also culpable because they traded him in a package for highly regarded at the time James Wasnewski, sure. Try to understand the difference between giving a guy away Columbus and trading a guy away Anaheim.
His assists this season were way above anything he’d done before also. So he’s not just some goal scorer who had a unlikely sustainable shooting % he also racked up 35 assists. I guess no one saw that either. But in your mind that was a fluke also and his line mates were udoubtably running around racking up career high shooting %’s to justify it.
If a team gets rid of a guy that racks up 43 goals and 35 assists the next season at 25 they need to review their player personnel people.
And I don’t need a crystal ball to see that.


You're making it sound like something is wrong with the scout of every NHL team because no one saw that somewhere down the road, this player would rack up career numbers after two full seasons where he put up putrid numbers? What did these scouts miss?

I don't think there's a scout in the world who could have told you that he would go to LV and promptly put up those numbers. They would have to know in advance (a) that he was going to end up in Vegas and (b) they would have to know who his line mates would be as well as the type of system he'd be going to. Without this information, all anyone can do is make an educated guess based on the old "what have you done lately" theory....and from all accounts, everyone came to the same answer: "not much". I doubt LV management can admit with a straight fact that they knew what would happen.






What other scouts besides Columbus’s scouts were involved in the decision? That I am making it sound like something is wrong with every scout of every team, that’s your drama. The discussion is Columbus screwing up. They were the ones tchat gave him up. They gave Vegas a first round pick and a second pick to take David Clarksons contract off their hands and to control who Vegas picked. It was a laugher for Vegas, all the way to the bank even without a Karlsson. If Karlsson scored 20 goals and had 20 assists it still would have been larceny and still rank as one of McPhee’s better moves. Columbus missed the boat. It’s no different than drafting a Hugh Jessiman people are accountable.
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I'm not making any drama...concust stated clearly that all 30 teams passed on the first round, therefore all 30 teams (who I will assume had scouts) underestimated his potential.

Be that as it may, from the evidence available, CBJ based their decision on what seems to be general knowledge that all scouts had. Obviously, there was no indication that a change of scenery would work miracles (unless, as surmised above, you have a crystal ball and know something the scouts do not know or did not see).

If Karlsson scored 20 goals and had 20 assists it still would have been larceny and still rank as one of McPhee’s better moves.
[If this were true, do you really believe this (so-called) discussion would be taking place?

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AV will sign on with the Stars as their new coach now that Hitchcock has announced he is retiring....it's a lock






I think he waits to see what Edmonton does. And after all Chiarelli's misfires, it wouldn't surprise me to see another one. Build a heavy team and then bring in the figure skating coach.

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Guys without taken anybody's side, do u think that he might be just one season wonder... True greatness can be accepted only if he would continue to play with the same results. Just a thought.


I would say that's the prevailing theory at the moment. You have to wonder just how much of the LGK's season is sustainable over the long haul.
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I'm not making any drama...concust stated clearly that all 30 teams passed on the first round, therefore all 30 teams (who I will assume had scouts) underestimated his potential.

Be that as it may, from the evidence available, CBJ based their decision on what seems to be general knowledge that all scouts had. Obviously, there was no indication that a change of scenery would work miracles (unless, as surmised above, you have a crystal ball and know something the scouts do not know or did not see).

If Karlsson scored 20 goals and had 20 assists it still would have been larceny and still rank as one of McPhee’s better moves.
[If this were true, do you really believe this (so-called) discussion would be taking place?



To answer your question Yes the discussion is still there a first round pick a second round pick and a 40 point guy for money that’s irrelevant. Ya Columbus didn’t get bent over at all. The thing none of you admit is the possibility Vegas wanted Karlsson in the first place. Maybe their guys saw something. But oh no that wouldn’t fit your laughable theory all the scouts with the general knowledge in the NHL saw nothing in William Karlsson. Beauty.
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Personally I think your just stupid, so I won’t blame the educational system where you grew up.




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Rranger - 2018-04-12 5:23 PM
Personally I think your just stupid, so I won’t blame the educational system where you grew up.











Wise words.
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Personally I think your just stupid, so I won’t blame the educational system where you grew up.










Wise words.


True colors.Is that Av in a shower room?

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Not a fan -- Too bad Schoeny won't coach.
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Eric Staal just keeps on scoring





According to wonder coach he was a third line winger,
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Eric Staal just keeps on scoring





According to wonder coach he was a third line winger,

Yep....I hope our next Coach is Keefe....I dont want an NCAA guy.....the success rate when they jump to NHL is not there ....Badger Bob has a def asterisk
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Yep....I hope our next Coach is Keefe....I dont want an NCAA guy.....the success rate when they jump to NHL is not there ....Badger Bob has a def asterisk


https://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2018/4/16/17225020/new-york-rangers-...

Here's a good read on Keefe

I'm on board. I can see him bringing MSL on as offensive coach

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Yep....I hope our next Coach is Keefe....I dont want an NCAA guy.....the success rate when they jump to NHL is not there ....Badger Bob has a def asterisk


https://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2018/4/16/17225020/new-york-rangers-...

Here's a good read on Keefe

I'm on board. I can see him bringing MSL on as offensive coach

I dig it....If we go NHL route...I would like to Interview Patrick Roy and Bill Peters if he becomes available.
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Then there’s this guy, with a nice write up making him sound like the one.

https://nypost.com/2018/04/15/champion-ncaa-coach-could-be-outside-t...

Big decision Jeff, take your time.
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I do like the idea of an NCAA coach if this is going to be a young rebuilding team. Not every coach is good with every type of team, which is why it's more important to find the right *fit* rather than a "good coach." Scotty Bowman on a rebuilding team is not a good fit. But it's undeniable that he's a good coach.

An NCAA guy would typically have success working with, motivating, younger players. This also involves a large aspect of teaching - something many coaches do not do well (AV for example).

This comes with the caveat that as the team changes into a more mature, veteran team that will become a contender, your ex-NCAA coach may no longer be the right guy for the job. In short, it's counterintuitive, but the coach on a rebuilding team should be judged by much more than wins alone.

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Then there’s this guy, with a nice write up making him sound like the one.

https://nypost.com/2018/04/15/champion-ncaa-coach-could-be-outside-t...

Big decision Jeff, take your time.


Yeah, I like him, too
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-16 9:49 AM

Yep....I hope our next Coach is Keefe....I dont want an NCAA guy.....the success rate when they jump to NHL is not there ....Badger Bob has a def asterisk


https://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2018/4/16/17225020/new-york-rangers-...

Here's a good read on Keefe

I'm on board. I can see him bringing MSL on as offensive coach

I dig it....If we go NHL route...I would like to Interview Patrick Roy and Bill Peters if he becomes available.


This part of the article won me over


"There are a few things I’ve learned about Keefe in the last three years that really stand out. The first, is that he’s a detail-freak. You’d be hard-pressed to find a coach who is as dialed into how to create successful systems at even-strength as Keefe, particularly offensively. His teams play fast, his players know where to find open space, and they score and create a ton as a result. The same can be said to how they defend too. The Marlies have been blessed with good goaltending but they also play a tight style that contains really well.

This is a drastic adjustment from both John Tortorella and Vigneault, who both forced systems that took away from the Rangers’ ability to break out and create sustained offensive pressure. Where Tortorella’s system was build on quick counterattacks and a gritty, shot-blocking defense, Vigneault’s system forced quick breakouts that either needed to turn into one-off opportunities or a dump and cycle to try and retain possession. Both of those ideals seem to be at odds with the way Keefe wants to play the game, and that’s a blessing that we’ve been waiting for on Broadway for a long, long time."
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-16 9:49 AM

Yep....I hope our next Coach is Keefe....I dont want an NCAA guy.....the success rate when they jump to NHL is not there ....Badger Bob has a def asterisk


https://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2018/4/16/17225020/new-york-rangers-...

Here's a good read on Keefe

I'm on board. I can see him bringing MSL on as offensive coach

I dig it....If we go NHL route...I would like to Interview Patrick Roy and Bill Peters if he becomes available.


This part of the article won me over


"There are a few things I’ve learned about Keefe in the last three years that really stand out. The first, is that he’s a detail-freak. You’d be hard-pressed to find a coach who is as dialed into how to create successful systems at even-strength as Keefe, particularly offensively. His teams play fast, his players know where to find open space, and they score and create a ton as a result. The same can be said to how they defend too. The Marlies have been blessed with good goaltending but they also play a tight style that contains really well.

This is a drastic adjustment from both John Tortorella and Vigneault, who both forced systems that took away from the Rangers’ ability to break out and create sustained offensive pressure. Where Tortorella’s system was build on quick counterattacks and a gritty, shot-blocking defense, Vigneault’s system forced quick breakouts that either needed to turn into one-off opportunities or a dump and cycle to try and retain possession. Both of those ideals seem to be at odds with the way Keefe wants to play the game, and that’s a blessing that we’ve been waiting for on Broadway for a long, long time."
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Miller def held back

https://nypost.com/2018/04/16/the-rangers-other-trade-chip-found-hoc...






He did, pretty mature on his part. Remains to be seen the trade return on he and McDonagh but he was one guy I didn't want traded til a new coach had a chance to work with him. The bull**** about his conditioning and attitude was a pathetic attempt on chewys part to give him a excuse down the road if Miller played well in Tampa, which he is. Showing a lot of skill and ability with the big boys, assets anybody could see but stupid. 18 points in 19 games to finish the season.
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Posted 2018-04-17 9:30 AM (#703293 - in reply to #702896)
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The minute Gorton saw JT on the 4th line he should of terminated AV






I knew that crap pile was going to somehow get rid of Miller.
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The minute Gorton saw JT on the 4th line he should of terminated AV






I knew that crap pile was going to somehow get rid of Miller.

Yep....Now Gorton better show us something
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-17 8:30 AM

The minute Gorton saw JT on the 4th line he should of terminated AV






I knew that crap pile was going to somehow get rid of Miller.

Yep....Now Gorton better show us something






I meant chewy wanted him gone.
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Miller def held back

https://nypost.com/2018/04/16/the-rangers-other-trade-chip-found-hoc...






He did, pretty mature on his part. Remains to be seen the trade return on he and McDonagh but he was one guy I didn't want traded til a new coach had a chance to work with him. The bull**** about his conditioning and attitude was a pathetic attempt on chewys part to give him a excuse down the road if Miller played well in Tampa, which he is. Showing a lot of skill and ability with the big boys, assets anybody could see but stupid. 18 points in 19 games to finish the season.


He was definitely my favorite Ranger....

Hajek seems to be a great add. Unsure on Howden, but if both of their games translate to the NHL..... which, it looks good..... then all is well.

I think Namestnikov is gone on draft day, so there could be even more of a return yet.
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Calgary has fired it's entire coaching staff





And there will be more Trotz if Washington goes down,wouldn’t be suprised if Edmonton gasses McClellan, Boudreau in Minny, Carlyle in Anaheim. Who else?

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Calgary has fired it's entire coaching staff





And there will be more Trotz if Washington goes down,wouldn’t be suprised if Edmonton gasses McClellan, Boudreau in Minny, Carlyle in Anaheim. Who else?

Yep...should be interesting
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-17 6:51 AM

Miller def held back

https://nypost.com/2018/04/16/the-rangers-other-trade-chip-found-hoc...






He did, pretty mature on his part. Remains to be seen the trade return on he and McDonagh but he was one guy I didn't want traded til a new coach had a chance to work with him. The bull**** about his conditioning and attitude was a pathetic attempt on chewys part to give him a excuse down the road if Miller played well in Tampa, which he is. Showing a lot of skill and ability with the big boys, assets anybody could see but stupid. 18 points in 19 games to finish the season.


He was definitely my favorite Ranger....

Hajek seems to be a great add. Unsure on Howden, but if both of their games translate to the NHL..... which, it looks good..... then all is well.

I think Namestnikov is gone on draft day, so there could be even more of a return yet.




Well they say getting Hajek required Miller in the deal for Tampa to agree we know it wasn’t those two one for one but included as part of the package. Howden seems to be flying under the radar as most of the trade talk seems to be about Hajek, but Howden is captain of his team and playing a significant role in his teams success including playoffs. Unfortunately his team lost the final game of their series, so they are out and his season is done. I suspect most will know who Howdenis after training camp next season.
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I wish more players would open up about his coaching.


https://foreverblueshirts.com/buchnevich-tells-russian-paper-vigneau...


The whole interview.


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A...


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He didn't say anything we didn't know...we spoke many times about him and Renney's line changes....we've spoken many times about his "punishment" for the slightest mistake....and, of course, his reliance on certain players during certain situations.
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We are officially in Lottery week!


5 days away!!!
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We are officially in Lottery week!


5 days away!!!
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Dallas seems to be the front-runner, but Brooks says NYR have interest

He's probably alright, but he lost me at "Montreal native who believes in 'the process'"

I want David Quinn to draft Brady Tkachuk because..... 'Merica

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Even if they lose Montgomery to Dallas, it's an indication that they are heading in the right direction with the type of coach they hire (IMO)

On a related note, why is Ruff still around??
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Give Patty wa a call
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This draft and coach pick will decide Gorton’s future. He bobbles either one and soyonara Jeff. Next year will bring a lot of scrutiny to the Andersson over Middlestadt pick. The whole Tampa trade is tilted heavily in Tampa’s favour with Miller and McDonaghs strong playoff play, and will remain that way until Hajek, company and picks justify the deal. Gorton is now squarely under the microscope, any new guy mulligans expired.
And as this coaching selection process evolves the more Ruff hangs in with the last man standing process. The group of candidates is filled with no chances and it would not suprise me at if it ends up Ruff, who has Schonfeld and Drury in his corner.
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This draft and coach pick will decide Gorton’s future. He bobbles either one and soyonara Jeff. Next year will bring a lot of scrutiny to the Andersson over Middlestadt pick. The whole Tampa trade is tilted heavily in Tampa’s favour with Miller and McDonaghs strong playoff play, and will remain that way until Hajek, company and picks justify the deal. Gorton is now squarely under the microscope, any new guy mulligans expired.
And as this coaching selection process evolves the more Ruff hangs in with the last man standing process. The group of candidates is filled with no chances and it would not suprise me at if it ends up Ruff, who has Schonfeld and Drury in his corner.

Biggest window of Gortons General Manager life.....He has to hit it out of the park....And both Hijack AND Howden need to pan out
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This draft and coach pick will decide Gorton’s future. He bobbles either one and soyonara Jeff. Next year will bring a lot of scrutiny to the Andersson over Middlestadt pick. The whole Tampa trade is tilted heavily in Tampa’s favour with Miller and McDonaghs strong playoff play, and will remain that way until Hajek, company and picks justify the deal. Gorton is now squarely under the microscope, any new guy mulligans expired.
And as this coaching selection process evolves the more Ruff hangs in with the last man standing process. The group of candidates is filled with no chances and it would not suprise me at if it ends up Ruff, who has Schonfeld and Drury in his corner.

Biggest window of Gortons General Manager life.....He has to hit it out of the park....And both Hijack AND Howden need to pan out




Man if Howden and Hajek don’t shine “” ouch “”.
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Somebody smarter than the dope likes Miller.


https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/lightning-coach-cooper-miller-he...
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https://nypost.com/2018/05/09/ilya-kovalchuk-is-rangers-most-obvious... Item 5 in that article VERY intertesting
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https://nypost.com/2018/05/08/henrik-lundqvist-would-love-to-have-jo... Ok Henrik...we sign Tavares then you take a pay cut? deal?
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Mikey Red - 2018-05-10 5:30 AM

https://nypost.com/2018/05/09/ilya-kovalchuk-is-rangers-most-obvious... Item 5 in that article VERY intertesting




WTF mikey is he reading our stuff lol?
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https://nypost.com/2018/05/09/ilya-kovalchuk-is-rangers-most-obvious... Item 5 in that article VERY intertesting







The only downside I see is he and Zibanejad basically occupy the same position and do the same thing on the power play, granted he does it better. I'm not in for some 3 year rebuild so I'm on board with him for a couple years. I also don't have a problem moving Zibanejad in the right deal either. So swing away Jeff.
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Mikey Red - 2018-05-10 5:30 AM

https://nypost.com/2018/05/09/ilya-kovalchuk-is-rangers-most-obvious... Item 5 in that article VERY intertesting




WTF mikey is he reading our stuff lol?

hahahahahaha I think he is lol
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Hank & the rest of NHL. It will be interesting to see where he ends up. You know it will be a whole lotta $$$, but where...
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5/18/18 | 7:47PM: McKenzie says that Jeff Gorton is in Denmark at the World Championships right now so nothing is believed to be "imminent."

He adds that Quinn has already interviewed with the Rangers and appears to be their "primary target." (McKenzie)

7:43PM: Bob McKenzie says that while a deal is not yet done, David Quinn "appears to be fairly well down the road in the process" of becoming the next coach of the Rangers.

5:24PM: According to Elliotte Friedman, "word this afternoon" is that the Rangers focus is, again, on BU's David Quinn to replace Alain Vigneault.

On Thursday, Bob McKenzie said on his Podcast, "every couple of days there seem to be reports that Quinn has told BU he is coming back and not going pro and then his name pops back up as a candidate. I don't have a handle at this moment on if David Quinn is available or not but his name keeps popping back up, percolating around as a potential candidate for the Rangers but I don't necessarily get the sense that he is this obvious choice front runner that is about to get an offer. Could be wrong but that is my take."

Quinn has been linked to the Rangers since the start of their coaching search

It's been reported that Quinn has told friends he will remain at Boston University but that he had not officially informed the Rangers of that decision.

Quinn was also named the head coach for Team USA's World Juniors team this coming December.

Quinn was an assistant at BU for three seasons while Kevin Shattenkirk was there and assistant GM Chris Drury is also a BU alum.

He was reportedly an option for Buffalo last summer and has said in the past that he has the "best job in all of hockey" and that it would take "something special" for him to leave BU. (WKBW)

There are currently 12 players from Boston University that have been drafted in recent years and 18 BU alums played in the NHL at one point this season.

Quinn was an associate coach at BU from 2004-05 to 2008-09, head coach of Lake Erie in the AHL from 2009-10 to 2011-12, an assistant with the Avs in 2012-13 and has been head coach at BU since 2013-14 to the present.

Steve Greeley, formerly the Director of Player Personnel for the Rangers in 2015-16 and 2016-17, was an associate coach with Quinn at BU in 2013-14 and 2014-15.

Greeley is currently the assistant GM of the Sabres.

Adam Rotter: The Quinn situation has been confusing from the beginning and since there have been no public statements from him or BU about his status the rumors will persist. He's definitely a viable candidate for the job and while he may be the focus of the Rangers search, he may not feel the same way about them. I would think that sooner than later he will make a statement about his decision to stay at BU or we will likely start hearing a lot more buzz about him becoming the next Rangers coach.

He's been sending a lot of players to the NHL lately, including guys like Charlie McAvoy, Clayton Keller and Jack Eichel, and has a ton of coaching experience at different levels. I am sure that the Rangers have done a lot of homework on BU and Quinn and with all of the Boston connections they have on the roster and front office, they have probably been able to speak with a ton of people about him. I think that if it's him we will find out sooner than later but if it isn't Quinn, we could be waiting for another month or so for the Rangers to name a new coach.
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Quinn sounds like he is wishy washy on what to do. If he has mastered the NCAA game...Maybe it's time to move on to the NHL?
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Interesting glimpse at Quinn in the interview. He likes physical, and good defense hockey, significant philosophy differences from bonehead.

https://foreverblueshirts.com/david-quinn-rangers-head-coach/
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Interesting glimpse at Quinn in the interview. He likes physical, and good defense hockey, significant philosophy differences from bonehead.

https://foreverblueshirts.com/david-quinn-rangers-head-coach/

Sounds like a guy worth looking into...
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They don't need a coach by the time the draft rolls around..... but I sure wish they would
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Multiple reports Quinn will be named coach on Monday.
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Multiple reports Quinn will be named coach on Monday.

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“”””He's been sending a lot of players to the NHL lately, including guys like Charlie McAvoy, Clayton Keller and Jack Eichel, and has a ton of coaching experience at different levels. I am sure that the Rangers have done a lot of homework on BU and Quinn and with all of the Boston connections they have on the roster and front office, they have probably been able to speak with a ton of people about him. I think that if it's him we will find out sooner than later but if it isn't Quinn, we could be waiting for another month or so for the Rangers to name a new coach.
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Sounds to me like the Rangers should be talking to B.U.’s head player recruiter also.

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Haha yep...Maybe we can get Tkachuk to come with Quinn
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There is word out there that its a done deal....Quinn for 5 yr 12.5 mil contract

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I have to say I don't know who this person is or how he is regarded.
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Me neither
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Team USA picked him to coach the team in December.... so must be one of the best American born coaches
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I like the cut of David Quinns jib


One of my first choices
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Team USA picked him to coach the team in December.... so must be one of the best American born coaches

I thought we were going for the Red Army Rangers?
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Team USA picked him to coach the team in December.... so must be one of the best American born coaches

I thought we were going for the Red Army Rangers?


All Russians, Swedes, Czechs, and Bostonians..... nothing else..... unles JVR wants to come here, then we'll say locals too (Shatty and DeAngelo)
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robstones - 2018-05-19 9:36 PM

Mikey Red - 2018-05-19 6:43 PM

robstones - 2018-05-19 6:27 PM

Team USA picked him to coach the team in December.... so must be one of the best American born coaches

I thought we were going for the Red Army Rangers?


All Russians, Swedes, Czechs, and Bostonians..... nothing else..... unles JVR wants to come here, then we'll say locals too (Shatty and DeAngelo)

Haha OK!
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DeAngelo is a Philly kid.
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Nothing to say just like the headline near the top of the forums page. I like reading chewy was fired.
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Rranger - 2018-05-29 12:50 AM

Nothing to say just like the headline near the top of the forums page. I like reading chewy was fired.
Hopefully it’s not just another new gum in town.
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Blue404 - 2018-06-02 3:11 PM

Rranger - 2018-05-29 12:50 AM

Nothing to say just like the headline near the top of the forums page. I like reading chewy was fired.
Hopefully it’s not just another new gum in town.





Say no to gum.
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Blue404 - 2018-06-02 3:11 PM

Rranger - 2018-05-29 12:50 AM

Nothing to say just like the headline near the top of the forums page. I like reading chewy was fired.
Hopefully it’s not just another new gum in town.





Say no to gum.

I always say no to drugs.
I have realized now I was saying the wrong words.
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