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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-05-11 10:16 AM (#676019 - in reply to #676014)
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ej17 - 2017-05-11 9:23 AM

Mikey Red - 2017-05-11 11:08 AM

Av doesnt deserve 1 more year. He doesnt even know whos on the bench

I never Blasted AV, Thought he was a Good Coach.. I'm Wrong, he absolutely should be fired, What he said and did in inexcusable .. He Should have been fired Immediately after the game...

Absolutely
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2017-05-11 2:41 PM (#676028 - in reply to #668758)
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https://www.nhl.com/rangers/video/breakup-day-alain-vigneault/t-2774...

Sounds like he is coming back.

Edited by LeetchyMrRanger 2017-05-11 2:42 PM
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-05-11 2:49 PM (#676029 - in reply to #668758)
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Bad day for the Rangers if that's the case. The guy is a F'n idiot
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2017-05-11 3:31 PM (#676030 - in reply to #668758)
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Well, he already had a meeting with management & keep saying 'we, we' which tells me it is 'we'. Also, interesting, he said they will work on getting younger on D which says a lot.
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Rranger
Posted 2017-05-11 4:48 PM (#676031 - in reply to #668758)
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I very much doubt Gorton has said anything to him. He said himself their meetings were in 10 days. It's just coach flapping. But I hope nobody shoots their dog if he is back. This guy is a professional schmoozer and very polished at deflecting blame. So I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-05-11 5:03 PM (#676034 - in reply to #668758)
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Tortz made it through the exit meeting before he was fired......SOOO hoping it happens again!!
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Rranger
Posted 2017-05-12 12:40 PM (#676094 - in reply to #668758)
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Nothing happens til Gorton comes out and lays out his plan for moving forward. With or without double mint. Obviously those are two drastically different scenarios. As much as I want Vigneault gone I got a bad feeling, he's going to be back. The only upside to him being back is it will be on a short leash and I have little doubt he will get fired at some point next season. Why so confident? Because this team has quit on him, and if he doesn't get fired now its a shame, next season will be a waste of effort because they will go nowhere til he is gone.
When you have as many underachieving playoff players, as the Rangers did, there is a disconnect somewhere. Every one of there playoff losses were caused by a lack of effort and commitment. The Rangers beat themselves, fortified by stupid coaching. The Rangers should have won both those series four straight, but for Vigneaults blatant blunders, compounding poor efforts. Think about that should have won both series four straight. Instead they are golfing.
Player performances usually mirror the connection with a coach as a leader, as a person, and most importantly as a knowledgeable person treating everybody fairly, and equally. Any kind of disconnect with a coach, and it can result in players underachieving. The quickest way to disconnect with certain players is to treat them differently. I.E. some punished for making a mistake, while others who make the same mistake are not. He plays favourites and admits veterans have longer leashes than younger players. And if your a younger player and playing behind a older player who is doing his job, that's one thing, but when you get stuck behind a guy who is floating that's very hard to take, and reality is only a minute few players are unaffected by the favouritism. It usually results in players going through the motions. Sorta like half the Rangers.
The only way Vigneault is gone is the hierarchy doesn't like the development of some very talented young players and the too many players going through the motions. We've mostly identified that, and that's justification for his dismissal especially when you add in perplexing repetitious personnel deployments, causing losses.
As far as I'm concerned if Vigneault comes back then Gorton's fate should mirror Vigneault's. He's got every reason he needs to fire him, and based on Vigneault's body of work in this league, no reason to believe he's going to fix anything.

Edited by Rranger 2017-05-12 12:56 PM
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Fish
Posted 2017-05-12 1:09 PM (#676096 - in reply to #668758)
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I'd be very surprised if Gorton fires AV...
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-05-12 2:04 PM (#676108 - in reply to #676096)
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Fish - 2017-05-12 1:09 PM

I'd be very surprised if Gorton fires AV...


Stranger things have happened though
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