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concust
Posted 2017-03-29 8:54 AM (#670142)
Subject: Rangers in on NCAA UFA Mike Vecchione



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Rangers continue to go hard for NCAA free agents, this time the target is Mike Vecchione, a forward from Union College.

Vecchione is actually a higher caliber player than Lettierri or Pedrie, and was a Hobey Baker finalist this past year.

Still, IMO Aston-Reese (Pittsburgh) was probably the only one out of this year's class worth a significant pursuit, Vecchione would still be a nice consolation prize.


Here's a nicely written article from November; no particular surprises after this came out:
http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/ecac/2016/11/8/13463754/mike-vecchi...

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Posted 2017-03-31 8:49 AM (#670213 - in reply to #670142)
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Flyers announce they've signed undrafted free agent forward Mike Vecchione.
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Posted 2017-03-31 10:04 AM (#670214 - in reply to #670142)
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Posted 2017-04-01 8:26 PM (#670443 - in reply to #670142)
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Flyers playing him the last 5 games. Rangers wouldn't so he gets to burn a contract year.
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Posted 2017-04-03 7:49 AM (#670687 - in reply to #670142)
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Do you have confirmation that the Rangers wouldn't burn his contract year? That sounds wrong to me.

With playoff rosters set and the Rangers at 47 contracts, there's no reason they wouldn't let him play the final few games of the regular season, or at least healthy scratch him so he can burn the year. It would be a no-risk move for the Rangers so I suspect he just liked Philly better, or his chances of making that team better. (Which would be true)

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Posted 2017-04-03 1:36 PM (#670704 - in reply to #670142)
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That's how the Flyers signed Union College star Mike Vecchione last week, giving him a one-year contract that will be over already in June, even if the Hobey Baker finalist as NCAA player of the year gets into one game or sits on the roster and just practices.
"It's one of those things when a guy is in demand," Philadelphia GM Ron Hextall said. "You want to get in the game or get out of the game. If you're not going to bring him right in, you're out of the game."



No iron proof, Just a guess the Rangers wouldn't sign him to a NHL contract. Probably wanted him on a PTO in Hartford. Philly signed him to a one year deal and he will be a restricted free agent this summer.There is going to be some upheaval all over the NHL this summer and those unfilled contract slots might come in pretty handy.
Here's the full article.


http://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/college-to-nhl-is-new-norm-for-top-pla...

Edited by Rranger 2017-04-03 7:24 PM
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Posted 2017-04-03 8:21 PM (#670714 - in reply to #670142)
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Shayne Gostisbehere was his teammate in college. My guess as to why he chose Philly
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concust
Posted 2017-04-04 5:45 AM (#670715 - in reply to #670142)
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The unfilled contract slots are for 16-17, not for 17-18, so a lot of players are going to be allowed to walk or not be qualified. So there is no other use for those remaining contract slots, which is why it would be surprising to me if they didn't want to burn one.

Haggerty was a similar situation a couple of years ago, Rangers had unused contract slots, he was in enough demand to want to burn a contract year, so when the Rangers signed him he was put on the active roster and was a healthy scratch the rest of the season.
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Posted 2017-04-04 8:28 AM (#670716 - in reply to #670715)
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concust - 2017-04-04 4:45 AM

The unfilled contract slots are for 16-17, not for 17-18, so a lot of players are going to be allowed to walk or not be qualified. So there is no other use for those remaining contract slots, which is why it would be surprising to me if they didn't want to burn one.

Haggerty was a similar situation a couple of years ago, Rangers had unused contract slots, he was in enough demand to want to burn a contract year, so when the Rangers signed him he was put on the active roster and was a healthy scratch the rest of the season.



His contract would still carry over to next season taking up a spot. His deal with Philly looks like a win for them. He signs plays the rest of the season for them and becomes a RFA at the end of the season. Which means Philly doesn't have to sign him. If they want to sign him they hold all the cards. If they release him he's a UFA again. I don't get his angle, if he craps the bed he's pretty much done.
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concust
Posted 2017-04-05 7:32 AM (#670730 - in reply to #670716)
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concust - 2017-04-04 4:45 AM

The unfilled contract slots are for 16-17, not for 17-18, so a lot of players are going to be allowed to walk or not be qualified. So there is no other use for those remaining contract slots, which is why it would be surprising to me if they didn't want to burn one.

Haggerty was a similar situation a couple of years ago, Rangers had unused contract slots, he was in enough demand to want to burn a contract year, so when the Rangers signed him he was put on the active roster and was a healthy scratch the rest of the season.



His contract would still carry over to next season taking up a spot. His deal with Philly looks like a win for them. He signs plays the rest of the season for them and becomes a RFA at the end of the season. Which means Philly doesn't have to sign him. If they want to sign him they hold all the cards. If they release him he's a UFA again. I don't get his angle, if he craps the bed he's pretty much done.


Don't believe that's true, the shortest ELC is two year, so if he burns one year this year, he's still under contract for next year.

Yes the contract counts against both 16-17 and 17-18 but my point was the rangers have three unused contract slots for this year (16-17) so if he's a guy they wanted they would have burned one of those slots to secure him, like they did for Haggerty. There's no point in holding on to them, they're worthless for this year barring a trade, and the chances of that are pretty remote.

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Posted 2017-04-05 8:42 AM (#670737 - in reply to #670730)
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concust - 2017-04-05 6:32 AM

Rranger - 2017-04-04 9:28 AM

concust - 2017-04-04 4:45 AM

The unfilled contract slots are for 16-17, not for 17-18, so a lot of players are going to be allowed to walk or not be qualified. So there is no other use for those remaining contract slots, which is why it would be surprising to me if they didn't want to burn one.

Haggerty was a similar situation a couple of years ago, Rangers had unused contract slots, he was in enough demand to want to burn a contract year, so when the Rangers signed him he was put on the active roster and was a healthy scratch the rest of the season.



His contract would still carry over to next season taking up a spot. His deal with Philly looks like a win for them. He signs plays the rest of the season for them and becomes a RFA at the end of the season. Which means Philly doesn't have to sign him. If they want to sign him they hold all the cards. If they release him he's a UFA again. I don't get his angle, if he craps the bed he's pretty much done.


Don't believe that's true, the shortest ELC is two year, so if he burns one year this year, he's still under contract for next year.

Yes the contract counts against both 16-17 and 17-18 but my point was the rangers have three unused contract slots for this year (16-17) so if he's a guy they wanted they would have burned one of those slots to secure him, like they did for Haggerty. There's no point in holding on to them, they're worthless for this year barring a trade, and the chances of that are pretty remote.





He signed a one year contract. It has to do with age. You believed wrong.

http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2017/3/31/15136702/mike-vecchione-...
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/nhl/flyers-sign-coll...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/2017/03/31/flyers-sign-col...

The Rangers have three open contract slots now. If they sign three players they won't have those three slots available next year because they will be taken by the players they sign this year to 2 or 3 year entry level contracts. Unless its a Vecchione aged player who only requires a 1 year contract. So there is a carryover and a effect on next years signings. They are basically worthless this year but do have value next year if the spots remain open.


Edited by Rranger 2017-04-05 2:29 PM
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concust
Posted 2017-04-06 9:35 AM (#670934 - in reply to #670142)
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I didn't realize he was 24. Still the contract slot really foesn't mean anything except that he'd hit RFA status this summer and would look to get into a bridge-level deal, which the Rangers probably didn't want to pay, for an unproven commodity
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