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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-05-16 8:59 AM (#676202 - in reply to #676192)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-05-15 8:31 PM

Pageau can't win a face-off unless of course he's going against stepan

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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-05-16 9:00 AM (#676203 - in reply to #676185)
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PV29 - 2017-05-15 6:54 PM

Sens bringing some serious physical play tonight. Phaneuf rocked Rust with a clean open ice hit and Rust is gone to the locker room. Hoffman smashed Schultz into the boards, he's gone.

Don't know who to admire more, the Sens for bringing it against the Pens, or the Pens who keep playing like champs despite so many injuries.

One thing is for sure: Boucher is doing a great job coaching so far in this series.

Replay looked like there was some head shot involved...Way to go NYR...nice job getting payback for Sauer.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-05-16 9:04 AM (#676206 - in reply to #676191)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-05-15 8:29 PM

I'll bet ya Sullivan let his team know that Ottawa pulled it's goaltender........Unlike AV

And knew who was on the bench
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Posted 2017-05-16 6:24 PM (#676214 - in reply to #671063)
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Watching this Johansen kid on the Preds go face to face with Kesler and the rest of the Ducks, I can't help but wonder why Kreider can't play like this.
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2017-05-16 6:54 PM (#676216 - in reply to #671063)
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Ha ha, good question! And, know what, he has more tools/talent than both of them combined. He can be & should be on the scoring leaders yearly. Will he ever realize it, we have not seen any indication of it to date. The games he does show up for to play, he dominates.

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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-05-16 8:48 PM (#676218 - in reply to #671063)
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The atmosphere there is something else...Our building used to sound like that.
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Posted 2017-05-16 9:07 PM (#676219 - in reply to #676214)
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PV29 - 2017-05-16 8:24 PM

Watching this Johansen kid on the Preds go face to face with Kesler and the rest of the Ducks, I can't help but wonder why Kreider can't play like this.


I have to think that a year in the minors would have helped Kreider immensely.
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Rranger
Posted 2017-05-16 9:16 PM (#676220 - in reply to #676214)
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PV29 - 2017-05-16 5:24 PM

Watching this Johansen kid on the Preds go face to face with Kesler and the rest of the Ducks, I can't help but wonder why Kreider can't play like this.





I'm guessing the reason is one of those players coaches knows how to motivate players and that same coach knows how to make players better.
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-05-17 12:11 AM (#676225 - in reply to #676220)
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Rranger - 2017-05-16 11:16 PM

PV29 - 2017-05-16 5:24 PM

Watching this Johansen kid on the Preds go face to face with Kesler and the rest of the Ducks, I can't help but wonder why Kreider can't play like this.





I'm guessing the reason is one of those players coaches knows how to motivate players and that same coach knows how to make players better.


I think that only plays a small part with regard to Kreider. He's never been the same after the Price incident. It seems every time he gets a penalty for using his size, his shies away from that part of the game.

IF the Rangers had any sense, they would have had someone sit down with him and work on that aspect of his game.
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Rranger
Posted 2017-05-17 7:09 AM (#676229 - in reply to #676225)
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Mjolnir - 2017-05-16 11:11 PM

Rranger - 2017-05-16 11:16 PM

PV29 - 2017-05-16 5:24 PM

Watching this Johansen kid on the Preds go face to face with Kesler and the rest of the Ducks, I can't help but wonder why Kreider can't play like this.





I'm guessing the reason is one of those players coaches knows how to motivate players and that same coach knows how to make players better.


I think that only plays a small part with regard to Kreider. He's never been the same after the Price incident. It seems every time he gets a penalty for using his size, his shies away from that part of the game.

IF the Rangers had any sense, they would have had someone sit down with him and work on that aspect of his game.




I don't disagree with that. That Price thing did coincide with a more passive Kreider. The coach is getting $4,000,000 a year to mentor these players and make them better, and there ia always some coddling and counseling going on. Communication is front and center, and so important in getting players to play up to their skillset and more importantly how the coach wants them to play. When Vigneault is quoted as saying "he sure wishes he had the Kreider that played the last period against Ottawa all playoffs", you just shake your head. Kreider is the poster child for the underachieving individual players on the Rangers this season. And should be a glaring negative in assessing Vigneault. Coaches are paid to get the best out of players, by hook or by crook. If Vigneault really wants to know why Kreider has underachieved he needs to look in a mirror.

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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-05-17 4:06 PM (#676235 - in reply to #676229)
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Rranger - 2017-05-17 7:09 AM

Mjolnir - 2017-05-16 11:11 PM

Rranger - 2017-05-16 11:16 PM

PV29 - 2017-05-16 5:24 PM

Watching this Johansen kid on the Preds go face to face with Kesler and the rest of the Ducks, I can't help but wonder why Kreider can't play like this.





I'm guessing the reason is one of those players coaches knows how to motivate players and that same coach knows how to make players better.


I think that only plays a small part with regard to Kreider. He's never been the same after the Price incident. It seems every time he gets a penalty for using his size, his shies away from that part of the game.

IF the Rangers had any sense, they would have had someone sit down with him and work on that aspect of his game.




I don't disagree with that. That Price thing did coincide with a more passive Kreider. The coach is getting $4,000,000 a year to mentor these players and make them better, and there ia always some coddling and counseling going on. Communication is front and center, and so important in getting players to play up to their skillset and more importantly how the coach wants them to play. When Vigneault is quoted as saying "he sure wishes he had the Kreider that played the last period against Ottawa all playoffs", you just shake your head. Kreider is the poster child for the underachieving individual players on the Rangers this season. And should be a glaring negative in assessing Vigneault. Coaches are paid to get the best out of players, by hook or by crook. If Vigneault really wants to know why Kreider has underachieved he needs to look in a mirror.


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Rranger
Posted 2017-05-17 6:53 PM (#676236 - in reply to #671063)
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Ottawa 4-0 after 1. The seas were parted for the Rangers. Especially now, it looks like Pitts injuries are catching up to them. It's a shame they quit against Ottawa.
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Posted 2017-05-17 7:24 PM (#676238 - in reply to #671063)
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It is also very hard to repeat, no team has done it since 1990s Detroit team. I give this team a LOT of credit & respect. They don't go away, they don't quit, they play hard nothing at all like the NY Stranger players. Go Ottawa.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-05-17 8:03 PM (#676239 - in reply to #671063)
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Does this site have a hacking problem?
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-05-17 8:22 PM (#676240 - in reply to #671063)
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Crosby still can't grow a beard
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-05-17 8:29 PM (#676241 - in reply to #671063)
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Lol This is frustrating to watch a a NYR fan.
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2017-05-18 9:18 AM (#676243 - in reply to #671063)
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A big Senseless supporter here also. People in sports & fans don't often value hard work & a will to win too often. We tend to look @ talent 1st & foremost if not only. This team is all about hard work & a will to win. How far it takes them, we will see... But, they are a good story & I'm on their side all the way.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-05-18 12:10 PM (#676245 - in reply to #676243)
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LeetchyMrRanger - 2017-05-18 9:18 AM

A big Senseless supporter here also. People in sports & fans don't often value hard work & a will to win too often. We tend to look @ talent 1st & foremost if not only. This team is all about hard work & a will to win. How far it takes them, we will see... But, they are a good story & I'm on their side all the way.

Are you a Ranger fan?
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-05-18 1:02 PM (#676247 - in reply to #671063)
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I would like to see Ottawa win also.....

Sorry Mikey
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2017-05-18 2:19 PM (#676248 - in reply to #671063)
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Yes, what is the question? Rangers lost, this is not news, Rangers not playing.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-05-18 3:23 PM (#676250 - in reply to #671063)
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Rangers are done. I dont root for anyone else
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2017-05-18 3:28 PM (#676251 - in reply to #671063)
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Didn't you post in favor of Crybaby with his craybabies?

I'm not routing, but my point being if the Rangers players played like Ottawa players are playing they would be playing. But, Rangers players quit, didn't show up. I'm for any team still playing that can take out Crybabies.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-05-18 4:01 PM (#676252 - in reply to #671063)
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Yes...But I dont lose a minutes sleep thinking about...nor will I come on here and gush about a team by how a series is going...while my team is out
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2017-05-18 7:28 PM (#676255 - in reply to #671063)
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What? Are you serious? If I scroll back I can find quotes like F- Ottawa, go Pitts, etc... What are you talking about? How is that any different from I'm posting? I am routing against Crybabies, right now it is Ottawa doing really well against a 3rd team they are supposed to loose to. Give them some credit, geez. Our Rangers on the other hand couldn't beat the team they were supposed to beat. I'm calling it like it is. I am not a blind Rangers fan. Ottawa with hard work, never quit approach & attitude beat the heavily favored Rangers & all their 'talent'. I will & do give credit where credit is due.

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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-05-18 8:44 PM (#676257 - in reply to #671063)
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Yeah go Pitt and F Ottawa...thats my position and the end of it for me. Rooting not Routing
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-05-18 8:47 PM (#676258 - in reply to #671063)
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In fact maybe Ottawa vs Nashville for the Cup would be great...Just what Bettman deserves
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-05-18 8:55 PM (#676259 - in reply to #676255)
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LeetchyMrRanger - 2017-05-18 7:28 PM

What? Are you serious? If I scroll back I can find quotes like F- Ottawa, go Pitts, etc... What are you talking about? How is that any different from I'm posting? I am routing against Crybabies, right now it is Ottawa doing really well against a 3rd team they are supposed to loose to. Give them some credit, geez. Our Rangers on the other hand couldn't beat the team they were supposed to beat. I'm calling it like it is. I am not a blind Rangers fan. Ottawa with hard work, never quit approach & attitude beat the heavily favored Rangers & all their 'talent'. I will & do give credit where credit is due.

You gotta give AV and Henrik some credit too
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-05-18 10:21 PM (#676260 - in reply to #676251)
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LeetchyMrRanger - 2017-05-18 5:28 PM

Didn't you post in favor of Crybaby with his craybabies?

I'm not routing, but my point being if the Rangers players played like Ottawa players are playing they would be playing. But, Rangers players quit, didn't show up. I'm for any team still playing that can take out Crybabies.


If Ranger players played like Ottawa players, we'd have one, maybe two cups in past decade.
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Posted 2017-05-18 11:49 PM (#676262 - in reply to #676229)
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Rranger - 2017-05-17 9:09 AM

Mjolnir - 2017-05-16 11:11 PM

Rranger - 2017-05-16 11:16 PM

PV29 - 2017-05-16 5:24 PM

Watching this Johansen kid on the Preds go face to face with Kesler and the rest of the Ducks, I can't help but wonder why Kreider can't play like this.





I'm guessing the reason is one of those players coaches knows how to motivate players and that same coach knows how to make players better.


I think that only plays a small part with regard to Kreider. He's never been the same after the Price incident. It seems every time he gets a penalty for using his size, his shies away from that part of the game.

IF the Rangers had any sense, they would have had someone sit down with him and work on that aspect of his game.




I don't disagree with that. That Price thing did coincide with a more passive Kreider. The coach is getting $4,000,000 a year to mentor these players and make them better, and there ia always some coddling and counseling going on. Communication is front and center, and so important in getting players to play up to their skillset and more importantly how the coach wants them to play. When Vigneault is quoted as saying "he sure wishes he had the Kreider that played the last period against Ottawa all playoffs", you just shake your head. Kreider is the poster child for the underachieving individual players on the Rangers this season. And should be a glaring negative in assessing Vigneault. Coaches are paid to get the best out of players, by hook or by crook. If Vigneault really wants to know why Kreider has underachieved he needs to look in a mirror.

I think back to Kovalev, who had all the tools (size, speed, hands) but was always less than expectations. Until he played for Keenan. Took some doing, but Keenan got through to Kovalev who had his best overall season arguably of his career in '93-'94, especially in the playoffs when things matter most.

There are several young players on the Rangers who should be better than they are right now. I'll leave it at that.
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Posted 2017-05-18 11:56 PM (#676263 - in reply to #671063)
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Preds - Ducks is a vicious series. Really enjoyable to watch, especially since I don't have a rooting interest but I'm kinda pulling for the Preds. These teams genuinely hate each other and they are bringing it physically.

I know the league is hoping that fighting just goes away eventually, but seeing fights in the conference finals again is just awesome. No staged stuff, just tempers boiling over in the heat of battle. Haven't seen this kind of hockey since the early 90's. The fans are loving it and I hope it makes Bettman miserable.
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Posted 2017-05-19 5:20 AM (#676264 - in reply to #676262)
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PV29 - 2017-05-19 1:49 AM

Rranger - 2017-05-17 9:09 AM

Mjolnir - 2017-05-16 11:11 PM

Rranger - 2017-05-16 11:16 PM

PV29 - 2017-05-16 5:24 PM

Watching this Johansen kid on the Preds go face to face with Kesler and the rest of the Ducks, I can't help but wonder why Kreider can't play like this.





I'm guessing the reason is one of those players coaches knows how to motivate players and that same coach knows how to make players better.


I think that only plays a small part with regard to Kreider. He's never been the same after the Price incident. It seems every time he gets a penalty for using his size, his shies away from that part of the game.

IF the Rangers had any sense, they would have had someone sit down with him and work on that aspect of his game.




I don't disagree with that. That Price thing did coincide with a more passive Kreider. The coach is getting $4,000,000 a year to mentor these players and make them better, and there ia always some coddling and counseling going on. Communication is front and center, and so important in getting players to play up to their skillset and more importantly how the coach wants them to play. When Vigneault is quoted as saying "he sure wishes he had the Kreider that played the last period against Ottawa all playoffs", you just shake your head. Kreider is the poster child for the underachieving individual players on the Rangers this season. And should be a glaring negative in assessing Vigneault. Coaches are paid to get the best out of players, by hook or by crook. If Vigneault really wants to know why Kreider has underachieved he needs to look in a mirror.

I think back to Kovalev, who had all the tools (size, speed, hands) but was always less than expectations. Until he played for Keenan. Took some doing, but Keenan got through to Kovalev who had his best overall season arguably of his career in '93-'94, especially in the playoffs when things matter most.

There are several young players on the Rangers who should be better than they are right now. I'll leave it at that.

Kovy was in his 2nd year when Keenan Coached him, Kovy was still a head case then and after Keenan.. It was only when he left NY He played up to his Potential .
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Posted 2017-05-19 7:19 AM (#676265 - in reply to #671063)
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Here is something interesting, @ least we have this. NHL names Top 20 Teams of all-time, & 94 team is 1 of the teams, a little surprised considering all the great teams 100 years or so of hockey:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/nhl-unveils-20-greatest-teams-1436...
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Posted 2017-05-19 8:06 AM (#676266 - in reply to #676265)
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LeetchyMrRanger - 2017-05-19 9:19 AM

Here is something interesting, @ least we have this. NHL names Top 20 Teams of all-time, & 94 team is 1 of the teams, a little surprised considering all the great teams 100 years or so of hockey:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/nhl-unveils-20-greatest-teams-1436...


They should call it greatest teams of the modern (post Original 6 era). any of these 'fan vote' lists will be incredibly tilted to more recent teams, as exponentially less people will have seen the champions as you go back in time.

From the list presented, as much as I hate them, I'd go with the '76-'77 Canadiens. 132 regular season points when teams didn't play OT or go to a shootout to get extra points for a win. Also - an 80 game season, 2 less than today's seasons are. Only 8 losses all season. Regarding playoffs, played just 2 games above the max (just 3 playoff rounds at the time). Guy Lefleur was amazing that season, winning both regular season 56/80/136 in 80 games(Hart) and playoff 9/17/26 in 14 games (Smyth) MVP awards. Even though it was at the end of his career, I loved having Lefleur in a Ranger jersey for that one season

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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-05-19 8:24 PM (#676267 - in reply to #676266)
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Ottawa with yet another fluke goal
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-05-19 8:28 PM (#676269 - in reply to #671063)
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