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concust
Posted 2017-06-16 11:50 AM (#676616)
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Dump 'em in here.



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Unless NYR get no doubt first-pair right D for Stepan, would not make deal. Already have 2d pair guy in Smith if they will pay market $.
12:58 PM - 16 Jun 2017



Longer article on TSN - http://www.tsn.ca/report-rangers-want-top-d-man-for-stepan-1.781142


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concust
Posted 2017-06-16 11:52 AM (#676617 - in reply to #676616)
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I'm fine with that return IF the defenseman is young enough (Trouba). Otherwise just sign Shattenkirk and retain your assets.

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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-16 1:44 PM (#676620 - in reply to #676616)
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Hopefully they trade him...He's done here... Do what it takes to get Trouba here...And for the love of God stop handing out MMC contracts to every player...Not named McDavid, Crosby, etc...
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Steady Eddie
Posted 2017-06-16 2:43 PM (#676621 - in reply to #676616)
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Just stop handing out these ridiculous long term contracts period. Who would want to take on this contract, when the return is Stepan? What could we possibly get in return other than a bag of pucks?
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Posted 2017-06-16 3:51 PM (#676622 - in reply to #676616)
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Stepan is not bringing in a top pair D on his own, he will be part of a package. No other GM is as dumb as Sather.
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Posted 2017-06-16 7:10 PM (#676623 - in reply to #676617)
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concust - 2017-06-16 1:52 PM


I'm fine with that return IF the defenseman is young enough (Trouba). Otherwise just sign Shattenkirk and retain your assets.



How about don't sign Shattenkirk and spend money wisely elsewhere.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-16 7:22 PM (#676624 - in reply to #676616)
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MJ...AL Central less than impressive so far...Wahoos .500
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-06-16 8:17 PM (#676625 - in reply to #676624)
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Central has always been a crap-shoot..don't expect any definitive leader until mid July.

Little Braves' pitching is erratic. Was never a fan of Kluber or Bauer.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-16 8:37 PM (#676627 - in reply to #676616)
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Yeah I hear ya
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concust
Posted 2017-06-17 6:49 AM (#676635 - in reply to #676616)
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Stepan's name linked to Arizona... They're not trading OEL but to me it should take a little more than Connor Murphy. OR, the coyotes are flush with young forwards also.

Here's a take from Coyotes blog:

https://www.fiveforhowling.com/2017/6/16/15823434/nhl-arizona-coyote...


the best the Coyotes could do is start throwing draft picks and forward prospects at Rangers GM Jeff Gorton and hope he takes the bait. They have two first rounders this year, along with their own 2018 pick. The hope John Chayka will be holding onto is that New York feels confident enough in being able to sign Kevin Shattenkirk in free agency, which opens the door for the Rangers potentially being interested in other assets.




It would take a stellar offer, probably including a Dylan Strome or Clayton Keller caliber player, to swing a deal including a mid-20s, legitimate first line center. But, that's the price of winning in the NHL.

Acquiring Stepan would dramatically improve the Coyotes, meaning that any trade not including Max Domi or Oliver Ekman-Larsson would be worth it.

Chayka's first move of this expansion draft offseason was a bit of a head scratcher, but bringing Derek Stepan into the organization to lead the offense for the next half-decade would make the summer of 2017 one of the best offseasons in Arizona Coyotes history.


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Steady Eddie
Posted 2017-06-17 6:50 AM (#676636 - in reply to #676627)
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Arizona rumors.

The ideal trade target is stud offensive defenseman Oliver Ekman-Larsson.



https://www.blueshirtbanter.com/platform/amp/2017/6/16/15823362/dere...
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robstones
Posted 2017-06-17 7:41 AM (#676637 - in reply to #676616)
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Dylan Strome and the 23rd pick this year

Nash Zibenajad Zuccarello
Kreider Hayes Miller
Vesey Strome Buchnevich

Suddenly The Rangers have size? Down the middle? Pick up Hanzal as a FA ??
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concust
Posted 2017-06-17 8:01 AM (#676638 - in reply to #676616)
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Strome's inconsistency is troubling. He'd definitely be a buy-low guy right now. There is a serious possibility he busts. Also, Hanzal sucks.

Much of the NHL is in pretty serious expansion trouble and (surprisingly?) the Rangers are in pretty good shape. If we trade Stepan before 3PM the time is right to maximize the asset.

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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-17 8:23 AM (#676639 - in reply to #676616)
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Yep...strike while the iron is hot...Parlay into Trouba...This is going to be wild because the NHL thought it was a good idea to further water down itself by adding a team...Now Arizona will have a cross desert rival...Yay!
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robstones
Posted 2017-06-17 8:36 AM (#676640 - in reply to #676616)
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Yeah I'd much rather have Trouba for Step.... see what happens
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-17 9:45 AM (#676642 - in reply to #676616)
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Looks like Stepan is on the protected list...You absolutely cannot let him get to July 1 on this team.
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Posted 2017-06-17 9:57 AM (#676643 - in reply to #676616)
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I don't think they've released a protected list, yet. I don't know that they can let Stepan go to Vegas for nothing, though.

He may not fit a team need. They look like they want speed... Stepan doesn't have that... They look like they want to get bigger... Stepan doesn't have that, either.

Step had a sub par year last season, but there's definite value there.

Sending him home to Minnesota for Dumba would be nice, too. If they asked him to waive his clause, Minnesota would probably be a team on his list
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-17 10:02 AM (#676644 - in reply to #676616)
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I would leve Stepan unprotected...If they take him then at least we lose an albatross contract...and at the same time keeping Grabner...Id rather have Grabner here than Stepan
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Posted 2017-06-17 10:09 AM (#676645 - in reply to #676616)
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Congrats. You just verified you know nothing about hockey. Keep Grabner. Give me a break. He's going to be 30 next year. The guy they want to keep is Lindberg. If you had a brain you would know that. They also want to keep Fast. However, I think they will roll the dice on him. I don't see him being a guy teams would offer a lot for at the deadline. My guess is Vegas would have more interest in Raanta or Holden. Two guys if they play well enough will get them picks. Defenseman always bring back good returns at the deadline.

Edited by itsmcilrathtime 2017-06-17 10:09 AM
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-17 10:19 AM (#676646 - in reply to #676616)
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You cant teach Grabners speed...He is also not locked into an albatross contract... . Hence bluffing with Stepans contract and see what happens...According to the Post...Lindberg is going to be exposed...LV will take Fleury as its Goalie
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-17 10:22 AM (#676648 - in reply to #676645)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2017-06-17 10:09 AM

Congrats. You just verified you know nothing about hockey. Keep Grabner. Give me a break. He's going to be 30 next year. The guy they want to keep is Lindberg. If you had a brain you would know that. They also want to keep Fast. However, I think they will roll the dice on him. I don't see him being a guy teams would offer a lot for at the deadline. My guess is Vegas would have more interest in Raanta or Holden. Two guys if they play well enough will get them picks. Defenseman always bring back good returns at the deadline.

You want Stepan here with his 6.5 and NMC?
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concust
Posted 2017-06-17 12:16 PM (#676652 - in reply to #676616)
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It's a NTC for 2 years and then a limited NTC for two years, not a NMC. And that limit is he lists 15 teams he doesn't want to be traded to. So he can still be traded to half the league.



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Posted 2017-06-17 12:58 PM (#676653 - in reply to #676652)
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concust - 2017-06-17 2:16 PM

It's a NTC for 2 years and then a limited NTC for two years, not a NMC. And that limit is he lists 15 teams he doesn't want to be traded to. So he can still be traded to half the league.




Most likely the half of the league that either doesn't want him or has no use for him.
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Posted 2017-06-17 6:54 PM (#676655 - in reply to #676616)
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The problem with Stepan is that everyone wants him to be a #1 center but he is a 2 or 3. He has done everything they asked him to do.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-17 7:40 PM (#676656 - in reply to #676616)
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He loses every face off...and thats on Double Mint...He always tries on the PP to pass from the near boards thru a defender...and it NEVER works
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Posted 2017-06-17 7:44 PM (#676657 - in reply to #676616)
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Cristian Dvorak + Oliver Ekman-Larsson
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Derek Stepan + Marc Staal

In a fantasy land?? Is it possible?
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-17 8:05 PM (#676658 - in reply to #676616)
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Probably yes...Probably no...but would be great
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concust
Posted 2017-06-18 7:33 AM (#676659 - in reply to #676657)
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robstones - 2017-06-17 8:44 PM

Cristian Dvorak + Oliver Ekman-Larsson
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Derek Stepan + Marc Staal

In a fantasy land?? Is it possible?


Fantasyland. They're not trading OEL.

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Posted 2017-06-18 8:20 AM (#676660 - in reply to #676659)
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concust - 2017-06-18 9:33 AM

robstones - 2017-06-17 8:44 PM

Cristian Dvorak + Oliver Ekman-Larsson
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Derek Stepan + Marc Staal

In a fantasy land?? Is it possible?


Fantasyland. They're not trading OEL.



ANYBODY can be traded - for the right price. Even Wayne Gretzky was traded.
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itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2017-06-18 9:07 AM (#676665 - in reply to #676616)
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That didn't answer his question. No. It's not possible unless their GM is now on crack. Vegas is going to have a harder time getting young players than people think in this draft. Fast and Lindberg are RFA's. That means that Lindberg and Fast don't have to sign with them. They can basically say, I'm not signing with you and they are screwed. That is why Vegas is allowed to interview players. I would be shocked if Lindberg or Fast has any interest in playing for Vegas. So, I don't think after thinking about it that they will lose either. Raanta I can see going. He probably wants a chance to convice a team out there he can start. Grabner to me would do nothing on Vegas so he's not a good investment for them.
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Posted 2017-06-18 9:10 AM (#676666 - in reply to #676657)
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robstones - 2017-06-17 9:44 PM

Cristian Dvorak + Oliver Ekman-Larsson
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Derek Stepan + Marc Staal

In a fantasy land?? Is it possible?


Their best prospect and their best defenseman (arguably top 10 in the league) for Stepan & Staal? That is way beyond fantasyland.

Take out Staal, and add in Skjei, Miller and a high pick, and your deal would still be lacking for them.
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Posted 2017-06-18 10:23 AM (#676671 - in reply to #676665)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2017-06-18 8:07 AM

That didn't answer his question. No. It's not possible unless their GM is now on crack. Vegas is going to have a harder time getting young players than people think in this draft. Fast and Lindberg are RFA's. That means that Lindberg and Fast don't have to sign with them. They can basically say, I'm not signing with you and they are screwed. That is why Vegas is allowed to interview players. I would be shocked if Lindberg or Fast has any interest in playing for Vegas. So, I don't think after thinking about it that they will lose either. Raanta I can see going. He probably wants a chance to convice a team out there he can start. Grabner to me would do nothing on Vegas so he's not a good investment for them.




I've actually met George pretty sure he doesn't do crack. Vegas claims Fast or Lindbergh and they control their future. If they don't want to play in Vegas for the going rate, Vegas can tell them to go home and pound sand until a team actually offers them a rfa contract. Nobody ever does. And if a team actually did Vegas would probably be jumping for joy getting the compensation they'd be entitled to.
Your point of young players with loads of cash not wanting to play in Vegas is my lol of the week. You must be a broad.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-18 10:33 AM (#676672 - in reply to #676616)
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Posted 2017-06-18 2:13 PM (#676673 - in reply to #676666)
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Mandar - 2017-06-18 11:10 AM

robstones - 2017-06-17 9:44 PM

Cristian Dvorak + Oliver Ekman-Larsson
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Derek Stepan + Marc Staal

In a fantasy land?? Is it possible?


Their best prospect and their best defenseman (arguably top 10 in the league) for Stepan & Staal? That is way beyond fantasyland.

Take out Staal, and add in Skjei, Miller and a high pick, and your deal would still be lacking for them.


Which is kind of my point.... I don't see a deal with Arizona that makes sense for The Rangers

If they're not giving up OEL, what's the point? They ARE rumored to be pretty interested in Step, though.... So maybe they overpay?

Otherwise hopefully Trouba can get here...
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itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2017-06-18 4:26 PM (#676675 - in reply to #676616)
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Rranger. You're clearly a dumb ****. They control nothing if the player doesn't want to sign. If they choose not to sign, the team basically selected somebody who is worthless to them. Get a clue dumbass NHL players don't have to play for teams they don't want to. Haven't you been watching this league the past 20 years you moron.
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