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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-10 7:22 PM (#679051 - in reply to #679050)
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Mjolnir - 2017-08-10 7:21 PM

I liked Sam when he could see.

ha ha ha ...yeah and didnt scream as loud
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Posted 2017-08-10 7:24 PM (#679052 - in reply to #677153)
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Posted 2017-08-10 7:38 PM (#679053 - in reply to #677153)
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Posted 2017-08-10 7:43 PM (#679054 - in reply to #679053)
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Mikey Red - 2017-08-10 9:38 PM

The Judge has K'd in 27 straight games


Rays have had a hit in every inning tonight
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Posted 2017-08-10 7:49 PM (#679055 - in reply to #679054)
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Mikey Red - 2017-08-10 9:38 PM

The Judge has K'd in 27 straight games


Rays have had a hit in every inning tonight

uh oh 1st and 3rd w 2 out
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-10 7:51 PM (#679056 - in reply to #677153)
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Posted 2017-08-10 7:53 PM (#679057 - in reply to #679056)
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Mikey Red - 2017-08-10 9:51 PM

MJ dont look


I'm gonna kill THAT LURKER WHO SENT ME A PM!!!!! You know who you are!!!!
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Posted 2017-08-10 7:54 PM (#679058 - in reply to #677153)
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Posted 2017-08-10 8:01 PM (#679059 - in reply to #677153)
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Mutts winning behind deGrom (10 runs no less). So I guess it's safe for me to go and finish Mr. Mercedes.

Until the morrow, Mikey (and you who know who you are!!!!).
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-10 8:06 PM (#679060 - in reply to #679059)
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Mjolnir - 2017-08-10 8:01 PM

Mutts winning behind deGrom (10 runs no less). So I guess it's safe for me to go and finish Mr. Mercedes.

Until the morrow, Mikey (and you who know who you are!!!!).

Lol you got it..night dude
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RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-08-11 4:14 AM (#679063 - in reply to #679002)
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RANGERNUT - 2017-08-10 7:04 AM

The scouting reports on Filip Chytil from before the draft



Please keep hockey out of the baseball thread


Sorry, I didn't realize anyone actually watched baseball let alone the Muts
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itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2017-08-11 5:24 AM (#679064 - in reply to #677153)
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Posted 2017-08-11 5:29 AM (#679065 - in reply to #677153)
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Henrik Lundqvist has been on the ice and is feeling good
Aug 10 | 1:09PM

8/10/17 | 3:58PM: Lundqvist said he has resumed skating this summer at the same time that he does every year and that things start to ramp up when he gets on the ice. (NHL.com)
He said that it's a process, like every year, to feel comfortable but that he takes things "step by step." (NHL.com)

1:09PM: Henrik Lundqvist said that he has been on the ice lately and that "everything feels good." (Expressen)

It was announced in June that Lundqvist would have a 4-6 week rehab plan after getting hurt in the World Championships.

And check out this link for Hankes new pad look
https://www.sny.tv/rangers/news/henrik-lundqvist-may-be-using-some-r...
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Posted 2017-08-11 5:31 AM (#679066 - in reply to #677153)
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http://blueseatblogs.com/2017/08/11/unthinkable-rangers-dangle-ryan...

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Posted 2017-08-11 5:33 AM (#679067 - in reply to #679065)
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RANGERNUT - 2017-08-11 7:29 AM

Henrik Lundqvist has been on the ice and is feeling good
Aug 10 | 1:09PM

8/10/17 | 3:58PM: Lundqvist said he has resumed skating this summer at the same time that he does every year and that things start to ramp up when he gets on the ice. (NHL.com)
He said that it's a process, like every year, to feel comfortable but that he takes things "step by step." (NHL.com)

1:09PM: Henrik Lundqvist said that he has been on the ice lately and that "everything feels good." (Expressen)

It was announced in June that Lundqvist would have a 4-6 week rehab plan after getting hurt in the World Championships.

And check out this link for Hankes new pad look
https://www.sny.tv/rangers/news/henrik-lundqvist-may-be-using-some-r...


I saw these before, but just noticed The Garden ceiling as the back drop... nice touch
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-08-11 5:38 AM (#679068 - in reply to #679064)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2017-08-11 7:24 AM

Go to a baseball chat board if you want to talk about a pansy sport with out of shape dumbazzzes.


Funny you're the only one bothered by this....and how is it so different from the pansy team AV has put together?

maybe you should just choose the "I'm not reading this" option and move on.

Edited by Mjolnir 2017-08-11 6:21 AM
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-08-11 5:42 AM (#679069 - in reply to #679065)
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RANGERNUT - 2017-08-11 7:29 AM

It was announced in June that Lundqvist would have a 4-6 week rehab plan after getting hurt in the World Championships.

And check out this link for Hankes new pad look
https://www.sny.tv/rangers/news/henrik-lundqvist-may-be-using-some-r...


Saw the pads a week or so ago....still hate that liberty logo.

Question: how many times has Henrik suffered an injury in those tournaments? I'm thinking this is the second or third time.
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Posted 2017-08-11 6:35 AM (#679070 - in reply to #679066)
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robstones - 2017-08-11 6:31 AM

http://blueseatblogs.com/2017/08/11/unthinkable-rangers-dangle-ryan...

The bloggers definitely read what we say here


This was floated by Brooks a while back, in a column that dump took credit for.

I don't think it's unthinkable at all, you have to make sure that if you're giving a contract out to a 30 year old defenseman with a lot of miles, you have to be sure the term and money are reasonable for the level of play you expect over the term of the contract. Sure it might be acceptable to overpay the last couple of years if you can get a deal on the first couple. Ultimately that's a calculated risk that they'll have to take (or not take)

Skjei's play over the next year to 18 months is going to be the biggest driver of this. I said recently regarding resigning Girardi, the Rangers didn't have a lot of replacement options so signing Girardi was one of their only realistic options. If there aren't other defensemen who are going to be ready then that gives McDonagh leverage in a negotiation. If Skjei starts playing like McDonagh did his first couple of years, and another young defenseman steps up enough to be used in a second pair role, then McDonagh is either going to have to take a team-friendly contract or be traded.

The post mentions a number of our youngsters but I'd plead patience here - it's great to have young guys ready to step up but they're not all going to make it (and contribute to the "crowded blue line") It's not unlikely that Bereglazov is dissatisfied with playing time and returns to the KHL, then Pionk might end up being an AHLer, Day is going to take a couple of years regardless - so there goes the "crowded blueline".
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-08-11 6:46 AM (#679072 - in reply to #677153)
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No one has called them a "talented crowed blueline"....there are a lot of ifs in that bunch.

Edited by Mjolnir 2017-08-11 6:47 AM
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-11 6:52 AM (#679073 - in reply to #679066)
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robstones - 2017-08-11 5:31 AM

http://blueseatblogs.com/2017/08/11/unthinkable-rangers-dangle-ryan...

The bloggers definitely read what we say here

Lol yep...You have to consider it...Cap world...No way on Earth you can give him a Girardi and Staal type deal when he is 30
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-11 6:52 AM (#679074 - in reply to #679064)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2017-08-11 5:24 AM

Go to a baseball chat board if you want to talk about a pansy sport with out of shape dumbazzzes.

boooooooooo
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-11 6:53 AM (#679075 - in reply to #679068)
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Mjolnir - 2017-08-11 5:38 AM

itsmcilrathtime - 2017-08-11 7:24 AM

Go to a baseball chat board if you want to talk about a pansy sport with out of shape dumbazzzes.


Funny you're the only one bothered by this....and how is it so different from the pansy team AV has put together?

maybe you should just choose the "I'm not reading this" option and move on.

Wooo
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-11 6:53 AM (#679076 - in reply to #679072)
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Mjolnir - 2017-08-11 6:46 AM

No one has called them a "talented crowed blueline"....there are a lot of ifs in that bunch.

Spot on...
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Posted 2017-08-11 6:56 AM (#679077 - in reply to #679070)
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robstones - 2017-08-11 6:31 AM

http://blueseatblogs.com/2017/08/11/unthinkable-rangers-dangle-ryan...

The bloggers definitely read what we say here


This was floated by Brooks a while back, in a column that dump took credit for.

I don't think it's unthinkable at all, you have to make sure that if you're giving a contract out to a 30 year old defenseman with a lot of miles, you have to be sure the term and money are reasonable for the level of play you expect over the term of the contract. Sure it might be acceptable to overpay the last couple of years if you can get a deal on the first couple. Ultimately that's a calculated risk that they'll have to take (or not take)

Skjei's play over the next year to 18 months is going to be the biggest driver of this. I said recently regarding resigning Girardi, the Rangers didn't have a lot of replacement options so signing Girardi was one of their only realistic options. If there aren't other defensemen who are going to be ready then that gives McDonagh leverage in a negotiation. If Skjei starts playing like McDonagh did his first couple of years, and another young defenseman steps up enough to be used in a second pair role, then McDonagh is either going to have to take a team-friendly contract or be traded.

The post mentions a number of our youngsters but I'd plead patience here - it's great to have young guys ready to step up but they're not all going to make it (and contribute to the "crowded blue line" It's not unlikely that Bereglazov is dissatisfied with playing time and returns to the KHL, then Pionk might end up being an AHLer, Day is going to take a couple of years regardless - so there goes the "crowded blueline".

1000% correct...There is no room or time for sentimental contracts...Cap world ...If Trouba a can be gotten..It has to be explored
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-11 6:58 AM (#679078 - in reply to #677153)
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Staal and Lundquist contracts should scare every GM straight
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Posted 2017-08-11 7:31 AM (#679079 - in reply to #677153)
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Posted 2017-08-11 7:48 AM (#679080 - in reply to #679079)
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sk4life40 - 2017-08-11 7:31 AM

I like watching baseball. Yeah they are all soft but it beats the alternative. (Nothing)

SK! Baseball off a wood bat is a great sound
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-11 7:50 AM (#679081 - in reply to #677153)
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Red Sox vs Yankees this weekend...I know 1 person who is pumped up ...
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Posted 2017-08-11 8:16 AM (#679082 - in reply to #679076)
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Mikey Red - 2017-08-11 8:53 AM

Mjolnir - 2017-08-11 6:46 AM

No one has called them a "talented crowed blueline"....there are a lot of ifs in that bunch.

Spot on...


McDonagh Shattenkirk
Skjei Smith


Staal being a #5.... I know he isn't good enough to fill in to McDonagh's role if McD gets hurt anymore, but he's a top 4 on a lot of teams....

Holden, too.... maybe not on Cup contenders, but the fact that both of their spots are in jeopardy because of

Graves
Day
Pionk
Bereglazov
DeAngelo

They are all what ifs, absolutely. We know what we know about them, and outside of Tony D, none of them have NHL experience.... But all will be competing for a spot this year.

And really there's only one spot to be had if Holden and Staal both stay with the team... maybe two....

Day is almost certainly destined for Hartford at least for the start of the season, but the other 4 have legit chances.

Likely looking at a

Staal DeAngelo bottom pair with Graves beong first call up and Holden as the extra/ throw in to keep DeAngelo motivated to stay consistent


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Posted 2017-08-11 8:43 AM (#679083 - in reply to #679081)
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Mikey Red - 2017-08-11 9:50 AM

Red Sox vs Yankees this weekend...I know 1 person who is pumped up ...


Worst time of the year....I find myself leading towards the Sox and that in itself is sickening.
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Posted 2017-08-11 9:01 AM (#679084 - in reply to #677153)
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Posted 2017-08-11 9:18 AM (#679085 - in reply to #679082)
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robstones - 2017-08-11 9:16 AM

Mikey Red - 2017-08-11 8:53 AM

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No one has called them a "talented crowed blueline"....there are a lot of ifs in that bunch.

Spot on...


McDonagh Shattenkirk
Skjei Smith


Staal being a #5.... I know he isn't good enough to fill in to McDonagh's role if McD gets hurt anymore, but he's a top 4 on a lot of teams....

Holden, too.... maybe not on Cup contenders, but the fact that both of their spots are in jeopardy because of

Graves
Day
Pionk
Bereglazov
DeAngelo

They are all what ifs, absolutely. We know what we know about them, and outside of Tony D, none of them have NHL experience.... But all will be competing for a spot this year.

And really there's only one spot to be had if Holden and Staal both stay with the team... maybe two....

Day is almost certainly destined for Hartford at least for the start of the season, but the other 4 have legit chances.

Likely looking at a

Staal DeAngelo bottom pair with Graves beong first call up and Holden as the extra/ throw in to keep DeAngelo motivated to stay consistent


Agree with most of this. Staal might be top 4 on bad teams but that's about it.

Day, needs a few years in the AHL.

Agree hopefully Staal Deangelo as the bottom pair. I could also see Staal Bereglazov, and Deangelo in the AHL. I have a feeling deangelo will fizzle out in NY pretty fast. Not so high on him. Pionk, Graves, probably AHL to start. Holden will probably be gone before the season starts.

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Posted 2017-08-11 9:26 AM (#679086 - in reply to #677153)
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Staal and Holden will be 1st pair because AV will stick it to Gorton for trading Stepan....I also wonder if you explore whats out there home run wise and ponder using Day as a piece
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Posted 2017-08-11 9:41 AM (#679087 - in reply to #679086)
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Mikey Red - 2017-08-11 11:26 AM

Staal and Holden will be 1st pair because AV will stick it to Gorton for trading Stepan....I also wonder if you explore whats out there home run wise and ponder using Day as a piece


Please tell me what you're drinking, taking and/or smoking....I'd like to know what to avoid.
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Posted 2017-08-11 9:55 AM (#679088 - in reply to #679073)
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robstones - 2017-08-11 5:31 AM

http://blueseatblogs.com/2017/08/11/unthinkable-rangers-dangle-ryan...

The bloggers definitely read what we say here

Lol yep...You have to consider it...Cap world...No way on Earth you can give him a Girardi and Staal type deal when he is 30


I repeat from an earlier post - do not mention Girardi and Staal in the same breath as McDonagh. I'd give him that deal in a heartbeat and you better believe he'll get way more than that elsewhere.

The bigger question is why does this 'age 30' scare everyone so much? (by the way, he's not 30 yet, but will be when his contract expires).

What do you guys think about Duncan Keith (currently 34), Byfuglien (34), Weber (34), Suter (32) and Giordano (36). Are they done? other than maybe Weber (who's rating is down more because he was traded straight up for Subban), all are still #1 pairing d men and will be such for several more years. All probably played as many or more minutes than McD at the same stage and are still at the top levels at their position. Why different expectations for our guy? Because he's a Ranger?

What do you think of Doughty, Subban, Josi, Carlson and Pietrangelo? All are within a few months of McD's age. Are you anticipating the same falloff you seem to be predicting for McD? All are minutes eaters similar to McDonagh.


I think some Ranger fans are just worried because of what happened with the Girardi and Staal contracts, which most of us knew were bad contracts the moment they were signed (including me very strongly stating what a mistake both were). I cannot stress enough McD IS NOT GIRARDI AND IS NOT STAAL. I realize he is not Keith or Doughty either, but he is certainly closer to that level than to Girardi and Staal.

Just my opinion - don't kill me over it
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