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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-08-11 10:07 AM (#679089 - in reply to #679081)
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Mikey Red - 2017-08-11 7:50 AM

Red Sox vs Yankees this weekend...I know 1 person who is pumped up ...


Would be more pumped up if the Yankees were playing well........
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-11 10:10 AM (#679090 - in reply to #679088)
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http://blueseatblogs.com/2017/08/11/unthinkable-rangers-dangle-ryan...

The bloggers definitely read what we say here

Lol yep...You have to consider it...Cap world...No way on Earth you can give him a Girardi and Staal type deal when he is 30


I repeat from an earlier post - do not mention Girardi and Staal in the same breath as McDonagh. I'd give him that deal in a heartbeat and you better believe he'll get way more than that elsewhere.

The bigger question is why does this 'age 30' scare everyone so much? (by the way, he's not 30 yet, but will be when his contract expires).

What do you guys think about Duncan Keith (currently 34), Byfuglien (34), Weber (34), Suter (32) and Giordano (36). Are they done? other than maybe Weber (who's rating is down more because he was traded straight up for Subban), all are still #1 pairing d men and will be such for several more years. All probably played as many or more minutes than McD at the same stage and are still at the top levels at their position. Why different expectations for our guy? Because he's a Ranger?

What do you think of Doughty, Subban, Josi, Carlson and Pietrangelo? All are within a few months of McD's age. Are you anticipating the same falloff you seem to be predicting for McD? All are minutes eaters similar to McDonagh.


I think some Ranger fans are just worried because of what happened with the Girardi and Staal contracts, which most of us knew were bad contracts the moment they were signed (including me very strongly stating what a mistake both were). I cannot stress enough McD IS NOT GIRARDI AND IS NOT STAAL. I realize he is not Keith or Doughty either, but he is certainly closer to that level than to Girardi and Staal.

Just my opinion - don't kill me over it

Mac plays 45 minutes a night...he will go the same way Giradi did...out of gas and worn out...another guy who played every other shift out there...giving a 30 year old with that much mileage a monster contract is bad business....look at Staals contract....We had to buy out Girardi...another bad contract
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-11 10:12 AM (#679091 - in reply to #679087)
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Mikey Red - 2017-08-11 11:26 AM

Staal and Holden will be 1st pair because AV will stick it to Gorton for trading Stepan....I also wonder if you explore whats out there home run wise and ponder using Day as a piece


Please tell me what you're drinking, taking and/or smoking....I'd like to know what to avoid.

hahahaha AV favoritism juice
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-11 10:12 AM (#679092 - in reply to #679089)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-08-11 10:07 AM

Mikey Red - 2017-08-11 7:50 AM

Red Sox vs Yankees this weekend...I know 1 person who is pumped up ...


Would be more pumped up if the Yankees were playing well........

Lol yeah that would help
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-08-11 10:13 AM (#679093 - in reply to #679088)
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sureshore - 2017-08-11 11:55 AM

Mikey Red - 2017-08-11 8:52 AM

robstones - 2017-08-11 5:31 AM

http://blueseatblogs.com/2017/08/11/unthinkable-rangers-dangle-ryan...

The bloggers definitely read what we say here

Lol yep...You have to consider it...Cap world...No way on Earth you can give him a Girardi and Staal type deal when he is 30


I repeat from an earlier post - do not mention Girardi and Staal in the same breath as McDonagh. I'd give him that deal in a heartbeat and you better believe he'll get way more than that elsewhere.

The bigger question is why does this 'age 30' scare everyone so much? (by the way, he's not 30 yet, but will be when his contract expires).

What do you guys think about Duncan Keith (currently 34), Byfuglien (34), Weber (34), Suter (32) and Giordano (36). Are they done? other than maybe Weber (who's rating is down more because he was traded straight up for Subban), all are still #1 pairing d men and will be such for several more years. All probably played as many or more minutes than McD at the same stage and are still at the top levels at their position. Why different expectations for our guy? Because he's a Ranger?

What do you think of Doughty, Subban, Josi, Carlson and Pietrangelo? All are within a few months of McD's age. Are you anticipating the same falloff you seem to be predicting for McD? All are minutes eaters similar to McDonagh.


I think some Ranger fans are just worried because of what happened with the Girardi and Staal contracts, which most of us knew were bad contracts the moment they were signed (including me very strongly stating what a mistake both were). I cannot stress enough McD IS NOT GIRARDI AND IS NOT STAAL. I realize he is not Keith or Doughty either, but he is certainly closer to that level than to Girardi and Staal.

Just my opinion - don't kill me over it
I have no problem mentioning Girardi in the same breath as McD. No matter what your opinion, he was a top pair d-man before being injured and overworked.

The guys you mention play a totally different game than McD and under much better systems (not to mention, they play for coaches who play to their strengths). I don't recall any of them being constantly run, pounded, concussed, etc. If McD were on any other team, I wouldn't hesitate to give him such a contract because he would still be productive and effective after turning 30....but taking into account the physical toll put on McD as a Ranger, I wouldn't give him one of those contracts.
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-08-11 10:51 AM (#679094 - in reply to #679093)
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Also, regarding the G&S contracts, I seem to remember the consensus was that we were betting off giving them to G&S who had earned them rather than a "Dan Boyle" or other player who was only looking for a pay day.

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RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-08-11 10:59 AM (#679095 - in reply to #677153)
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Henrik Lundqvist ranked as the 8th best goalie in the NHL

"The funniest thing about this one is he is ranked one spot BELOW Talbot.... Really ? "

12:24PM 8/11/17


In a list compiled by the NHL Network, Henrik Lundqvist was ranked as the 8th best goalie in the NHL heading into this season.

Lundqvist is listed as the fourth goalie in the Metro Division, behind Brayden Holtby (2), Sergei Bobrovsky (3) and Matt Murray (4).

He is also ranked one spot below his former backup, Cam Talbot.

Last season, Lundqvist ranked:
•13th in wins (31)
•19th in GAA (2.74) among goalies with at least 50 games played
•19th in save percentage (.910) among goalies with at least 50 games played
•16th in total minutes played 3240:26

The save percentage was the lowest of his career and his goals against was the highest of his career.

Lundqvist was 6-6 in the playoffs with .927 GAA and 2.25 save percentage.

He said that last season the "highs were as high as any other year" but the low moments were "a little too low." (NHL.com)

Adam Rotter: I think that, to a certain degree, what we saw with Lundqvist last year is going to be the normal with him. He will have his ups and downs but overall will still come out on the positive end and lead the Rangers into the playoffs. The hope will be that with a more mobile defense and more skill on the back end that the Rangers will hopefully spend less time in their own zone, which in turn could keep Henrik fresher and hopefully improve his numbers. He showed against Montreal, and then in the World Championships, that he can still be a top goalie and while he might not be the consistent and consensus top-3 he has been for almost his entire career, he is someone that the Rangers can still count on.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-11 11:06 AM (#679096 - in reply to #677153)
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In all fairness...Henrik is 35 ...so the Metro part is right...Rangers better hope Shesterkin is not the answer...if he comes...he wont be here til 2019-2020...they better have someone that can play real soon
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RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-08-11 11:31 AM (#679097 - in reply to #679096)
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Mikey Red - 2017-08-11 11:06 AM

In all fairness...Henrik is 35 ...so the Metro part is right...Rangers better hope Shesterkin is not the answer...if he comes...he wont be here til 2019-2020...they better have someone that can play real soon


"The Metro part is right" ..Seriously.... You have Bobrovsky ranked Above Hank ? Please tell me on what planet that makes sense so that I make sure my space travel plans avoid that stop

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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-11 11:33 AM (#679098 - in reply to #677153)
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As of right now...yes because Henrik is 35 and way past his prime....I you offered me that trade right now I take it
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-11 11:43 AM (#679099 - in reply to #677153)
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Space travel is probably awesome tho lol
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RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-08-11 11:44 AM (#679100 - in reply to #677153)
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Wow....That's it, that's all I can say at this time
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RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-08-11 11:45 AM (#679101 - in reply to #679099)
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Mikey Red - 2017-08-11 11:43 AM

Space travel is probably awesome tho lol


They do call me "The Wizard"
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-08-11 12:38 PM (#679102 - in reply to #679095)
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RANGERNUT - 2017-08-11 12:59 PM
The hope will be that with a more mobile defense and more skill on the back end that the Rangers will hopefully spend less time in their own zone, which in turn could keep Henrik fresher and hopefully improve his numbers.


Why does this statement leave me with the feeling that Henrik will face more breakaways and odd men rushes than he has in the past?
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-11 1:01 PM (#679103 - in reply to #679100)
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RANGERNUT - 2017-08-11 11:44 AM

Wow....That's it, that's all I can say at this time

Bob does have 2 Vezinas so far...not horrble
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Posted 2017-08-11 1:08 PM (#679104 - in reply to #679097)
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RANGERNUT - 2017-08-11 12:31 PM

Mikey Red - 2017-08-11 11:06 AM

In all fairness...Henrik is 35 ...so the Metro part is right...Rangers better hope Shesterkin is not the answer...if he comes...he wont be here til 2019-2020...they better have someone that can play real soon


"The Metro part is right" ..Seriously.... You have Bobrovsky ranked Above Hank ? Please tell me on what planet that makes sense so that I make sure my space travel plans avoid that stop


I don't think this is an "all time" or "career" list... if you look at just last year (reg+playoff) then yes Bob did have a much better year than Hank. So did Holtby, Talbot, etc.

I look at this list as "who had the best 12 months prior to now" versus a more subjective "who is the better goaltender".

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sureshore
Posted 2017-08-11 1:16 PM (#679105 - in reply to #679093)
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Mjolnir - 2017-08-11 12:13 PM

I have no problem mentioning Girardi in the same breath as McD.

Now I know you're a little bit off
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-08-11 2:00 PM (#679106 - in reply to #679105)
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sureshore - 2017-08-11 3:16 PM

Mjolnir - 2017-08-11 12:13 PM

I have no problem mentioning Girardi in the same breath as McD.

Now I know you're a little bit off


There's never been any doubt about that!!

I stick by my statement -- however, it should be noted that we're comparing apples and oranges.

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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-11 3:17 PM (#679107 - in reply to #677153)
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Muts at Philty 7 pm
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Injuns at Why does TB have a team? 7 pm
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-08-11 3:41 PM (#679108 - in reply to #679107)
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Mikey Red - 2017-08-11 5:17 PM

Tonights Baseball Mens wood bat league
Muts at Philty 7 pm
Fenway Folk at Prison stripes 7pm
Injuns at Why does TB have a team? 7 pm


Don't you ever use spell check?

It's Injins!!!
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-11 3:47 PM (#679109 - in reply to #677153)
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lol lol Spell check sometimes needs to punch me in the nose
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-11 6:30 PM (#679113 - in reply to #677153)
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Yanks down
Mets Tied
Wahoos up big
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Posted 2017-08-11 6:55 PM (#679114 - in reply to #677153)
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Posted 2017-08-11 7:06 PM (#679115 - in reply to #677153)
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Wow...Indeed it is so far...Very nice pickup
Mets now have the lead 6-4
Yanks down 3-0 and RJ is probably not happy about it
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Posted 2017-08-11 7:08 PM (#679116 - in reply to #677153)
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Oh well...Morrison with a base hit...No hit bid out the window
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Posted 2017-08-11 7:16 PM (#679117 - in reply to #679116)
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Mikey Red - 2017-08-11 9:08 PM

Oh well...Morrison with a base hit...No hit bid out the window

A shame...but they still lead big.

Did you know that "MJ" saw the Indians very first game in 1901? He had seats 2 rows off the field down the first base line.
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Posted 2017-08-11 7:36 PM (#679118 - in reply to #679117)
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Mandar - 2017-08-11 7:16 PM

Mikey Red - 2017-08-11 9:08 PM

Oh well...Morrison with a base hit...No hit bid out the window

A shame...but they still lead big.

Did you know that "MJ" saw the Indians very first game in 1901? He had seats 2 rows off the field down the first base line.

LMAO haha in thee old Cleveland Municipal Stadium that held 80K for baseball? was he the original drum guy?
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-08-12 8:23 AM (#679120 - in reply to #679115)
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Mikey Red - 2017-08-11 7:06 PM

Wow...Indeed it is so far...Very nice pickup
Mets now have the lead 6-4
Yanks down 3-0 and RJ is probably not happy about it


They were down but never out!
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Posted 2017-08-12 10:31 AM (#679121 - in reply to #679120)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-08-12 8:23 AM

Mikey Red - 2017-08-11 7:06 PM

Wow...Indeed it is so far...Very nice pickup
Mets now have the lead 6-4
Yanks down 3-0 and RJ is probably not happy about it


They were down but never out!

Yep! wild 8th and wild 9th...Chapman made it interesting
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-08-12 1:35 PM (#679122 - in reply to #679118)
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Mikey Red - 2017-08-11 9:36 PM

Mandar - 2017-08-11 7:16 PM

Mikey Red - 2017-08-11 9:08 PM

Oh well...Morrison with a base hit...No hit bid out the window

A shame...but they still lead big.

Did you know that "MJ" saw the Indians very first game in 1901? He had seats 2 rows off the field down the first base line.

LMAO haha in thee old Cleveland Municipal Stadium that held 80K for baseball? was he the original drum guy?


Yep -- Uncle Mandy took me .... bought me Candy and Cracker Jacks and Coca-Cola with real cocaine!!!
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Posted 2017-08-12 2:03 PM (#679123 - in reply to #679122)
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Mjolnir - 2017-08-12 1:35 PM

Mikey Red - 2017-08-11 9:36 PM

Mandar - 2017-08-11 7:16 PM

Mikey Red - 2017-08-11 9:08 PM

Oh well...Morrison with a base hit...No hit bid out the window

A shame...but they still lead big.

Did you know that "MJ" saw the Indians very first game in 1901? He had seats 2 rows off the field down the first base line.

LMAO haha in thee old Cleveland Municipal Stadium that held 80K for baseball? was he the original drum guy?


Yep -- Uncle Mandy took me .... bought me Candy and Cracker Jacks and Coca-Cola with real cocaine!!!

ha ha ha lol wooo.....who had a better day than you then/
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-12 2:05 PM (#679124 - in reply to #677153)
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Tribe with the all usual 6:10 Start Tonight
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-08-12 4:58 PM (#679125 - in reply to #679124)
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Posted 2017-08-12 5:09 PM (#679126 - in reply to #677153)
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Posted 2017-08-12 5:22 PM (#679127 - in reply to #679126)
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Mjolnir - 2017-08-12 5:09 PM

Prison stripes shived by sox!!!

lol yeah big time....Severino didnt have it today...How did the Tribe score?
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