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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-09-26 9:08 AM (#680894 - in reply to #680890)
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robstones - 2017-09-26 8:40 AM

Black Lives Matter never directed acts of violence to happen.... that's not the message....

Their name isn't saying black lives matter more than anyone....

But when countless unarmed men and kids are killed in the streets with excessive force by police officers who's job it is to serve and protect the community, and there is no justice served?

The message The State sends to the community is those lives don't matter.... so the group was formed in protest saying yes they DO matter! Those Black Lives Matter, and justice should be served.

Not the slap on the wrist paid leave get to keep their job and stay in the system that happens every time.... real justice.

And every time it happens the movement grows, and until changes happen the protests will continue. Hopefully peacefully....



You don't have all the facts. Black lives matter did incite violence, numerous times. Black lives matter did not allow ambulances and emergency vehicles to get to injured people, or allow them to bring them to a hospital. An organizer of Black lives matter was asked if they would allow other groups such as white lives or yellow lives or anyone like that to enter their protests, and the answer was no! She then continued to say in her mind this is only about black lives. Blacks kill more blacks than any other race against any other race. If black lives matter really cared about black lives they would start in Chicago.

And to say "countless" unarmed men and kids in the streets by cops is just so completely false!
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-09-26 9:10 AM (#680895 - in reply to #680030)
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ALL LIVES MATTER!!

PERIOD!
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robstones
Posted 2017-09-26 9:21 AM (#680896 - in reply to #680030)
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Black on black crimes happening in Chicago gets back to poverty, and why those areas are mostly black in the first place.... it goes back to segregation and racism.... we're still dealing with the effects of our past.

Countless isn't the right word.... but I don't have the number off the top of my head.... All lives do matter.... but there seems to be a problem with unarmed black men being killed by police officers who use excessive force, then justice not being served for the cop's actions.



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robstones
Posted 2017-09-26 9:27 AM (#680898 - in reply to #680030)
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Because the question is does Trayvon Martin die if he was a white kid? Eric Garner, Mike Brown, and forgive me, the countless others.... because there are a bunch...
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-09-26 9:35 AM (#680901 - in reply to #680030)
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Rob Trayvon picked a fight with a loser that had a gun on him....Eric garner was a low life 43 yr old with over 30 arrests 6 children and no job...Loser...he resisted and made things worse.... Mike Borown wads guilty as hell in what happened there......Also Rob you are in NJ...what about Brendan Tevlin? That got NOTHING as far as coverage...and that was a good kid that was gonna make something of himself and be a productive member of society....What about the 5 cops in Dallas? what about the 2 cops in Brooklyn?
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robstones
Posted 2017-09-26 9:56 AM (#680902 - in reply to #680030)
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Trayvon Martin didn't pick a fight with anyone... he was walking and Zimmerman, Mr. neighborhood watch not a cop but wish I was profiled Trayvon and tried to chase Trayvon down.... so Trayvon put up a fight, and Zimmerman shot him

And because he is buddy buddy with the police force he gets away with it...

Garner was accused of selling loose cigarettes... he claimed he wasn't.... he wasn't being violent, but he wasn't being cooperative... either way excessive force was used in the form of a choke hold, and he was killed.... no justice...


Mike Brown was an unarmed guy who had his hands in the air and yelled don't shoot before he was shot dead and left there without medical attention.

Was he wrong? Yeah... he didn't have to die, though.

We can extend this conversation to other problems in the world... Let's talk about North Korea and terrorism... what about yellow lives, and cops getting killed on duty, and high poverty areas breeding crime.... but the fact that you and anyone else dismisses these cases is why they call themselves Black Lives Matter

They don't matter to you. To you they're losers..... and that's wrong
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-09-26 10:16 AM (#680903 - in reply to #680030)
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Mike Brown DID NOT have his arms up saying don't shoot. He fought the cop for his gun. 1 person said he was just standing there with his arms in the air and the cop just shot him, that guy later admitted that he wasn't even there to see what happened. This to me is part of the problem, the media gets a false narrative spread and people like you just believe what they say. You are right when you say they didn't have to die, but if they just comply chances are much greater they won't be shot. Every victim you mentioned is black, why do you not mention any of the white victims?? Because the media doesn't talk about that! Only when they can cry Racism.....It's actually disgusting!!

Rham Emanuel mayor of Chicago, Obamas old buddy said "never let a good tragedy go to waste" Thats exactly what these people do. For Obama to say "if I had a son, he would look just like trayvon" is as disgusting as it gets, using a tragedy like that for political gain!
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-09-26 10:21 AM (#680904 - in reply to #680898)
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robstones - 2017-09-26 9:27 AM

Because the question is does Trayvon Martin die if he was a white kid? Eric Garner, Mike Brown, and forgive me, the countless others.... because there are a bunch...


More whites are killed each year by police officers than blacks..

Please name 3 like the victims you mention above. Trayvon wasn't killed by a cop.

Also some of the black people killed by officers, the officers were black. Unfortunately though, that doesn't fit the racism narrative!
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robstones
Posted 2017-09-26 10:30 AM (#680905 - in reply to #680030)
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Mike Brown was over 100 feet away from the officer when shot.... even if he punched the officer in the face, the cop's life was not at risk when he shot Brown dead. He didn't have to die.... arrested, sure... killed, nope.

We can talk about whites getting killed by cops too if you want.... I'm not sure of how many are unarmed, or profiled before stopped in the first place, but that's not what BLM is focusing their attention on...

As far as Trayvon goes, Zimmerman wasn't a cop, but he was friends with them enough and part of the system enough to call it nepotism. And it's that nepotism that is also a problem in our system... whether the cop is black or white or whatever, they're still held above the law, and it's not right.

It's no different than The Church protecting pedophile priests...
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-09-26 10:40 AM (#680906 - in reply to #680030)
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You should look up the report that was done on this case (Mike Brown) you will see it's much different than you think. He actually did punch the officer in the face and tried getting his gun. Walked away, the cop got out of his car told Mike Brown to stop. Mike Brown then stopped and proceeded to threaten the officer as he approached him. The officer told him to stop and get down a few times then shot Mike Brown in the leg first... Mike Brown then charged at the officer, the officer then continued firing. He wasn't over 100 feet away.

If you were assaulted by someone and that someone tried getting your gun, and then threatened you as they were walking towards you, you shoot them in the leg then they start running at you, Oh they are also about 6 inches taller than you and outweigh you by 60-70 pounds what are you going to do??
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-09-26 11:07 AM (#680907 - in reply to #680030)
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Rob what drugs are you on?
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robstones
Posted 2017-09-26 11:13 AM (#680908 - in reply to #680030)
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I've seen the reports.... I've never seen any autopsy say he was shot in the leg first... shot in the leg at all... he was shot in the right arm, that was on his head, and in the face.


Cops aren't trained to shoot in the leg... if they are to fire their weapon they are to shoot center mass, and shoot to kill..... and that's what the cop did.

The cop says he reached for his gun... you belive the cops story because he's a cop. Brown did punch him in the face... then he tried to get away.... he didn't try to kill the cop, he tried to get away.

Then the cop probably said freeze or I'll shoot... Mike Brown then turned around, and put his hands over his head... then the cop shot his ass....
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-09-26 11:21 AM (#680909 - in reply to #680908)
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robstones - 2017-09-26 11:13 AM

I've seen the reports.... I've never seen any autopsy say he was shot in the leg first... shot in the leg at all... he was shot in the right arm, that was on his head, and in the face.


Cops aren't trained to shoot in the leg... if they are to fire their weapon they are to shoot center mass, and shoot to kill..... and that's what the cop did.

The cop says he reached for his gun... you belive the cops story because he's a cop. Brown did punch him in the face... then he tried to get away.... he didn't try to kill the cop, he tried to get away.

Then the cop probably said freeze or I'll shoot... Mike Brown then turned around, and put his hands over his head... then the cop shot his ass....


If he tried to get away he would've been shot in the back.

He fought with the cop while the cop was still in his car!! Why?? why fight with a cop and assault the cop before he even gets out of his car? Makes no sense!

He NEVER placed his hands over his head! He NEVER said hands up don't shoot! That has been proven by the witness who claimed it, to later on say he wasn't even there.

The autopsy also proved by the angle of the shots that hit Brown, that Brown was running at the cop.....

Don't always blindly trust the media
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-09-26 11:22 AM (#680910 - in reply to #680030)
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Maybe I'm wrong about the leg first...But the initial shot was not a kill shot
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-09-26 11:30 AM (#680911 - in reply to #680030)
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If the NFL millionaires want to protest I have no problem with that. Why can't they just lock their arms in unity like some did? Why kneel disrespectfully, especially in front of military personnel who fight and risk their lives to give you that freedom? Some didn't even come out to the field but stayed in the locker room. You can protest without being disrespectful.

Black and White have died in battle, and they all come home in Red, White, and Blue! That should never be disrespected. IMO
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-09-26 12:14 PM (#680915 - in reply to #680911)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-09-26 11:30 AM

If the NFL millionaires want to protest I have no problem with that. Why can't they just lock their arms in unity like some did? Why kneel disrespectfully, especially in front of military personnel who fight and risk their lives to give you that freedom? Some didn't even come out to the field but stayed in the locker room. You can protest without being disrespectful.

Black and White have died in battle, and they all come home in Red, White, and Blue! That should never be disrespected. IMO
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robstones
Posted 2017-09-26 1:05 PM (#680926 - in reply to #680030)
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Would locking arms have the same impact? Would it gather the same attention?

This is a protest, folks.... it's not meant to be respectful, it's meant to draw attention... mission accomplished.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-09-26 1:12 PM (#680927 - in reply to #680030)
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I dont want to see it in sports...neither does the overwhelming majority of America
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-09-26 1:13 PM (#680928 - in reply to #680030)
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/group-youths-assaults-teens-l...

BLM!
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-09-26 1:53 PM (#680929 - in reply to #680928)
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This is now beyond stupid...Just saw this headline in NY Daily News:

"Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee takes knee on House floor to protest Trump’s NFL comments"
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-09-26 1:59 PM (#680931 - in reply to #680929)
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Mjolnir - 2017-09-26 1:53 PM

This is now beyond stupid...Just saw this headline in NY Daily News:

"Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee takes knee on House floor to protest Trump’s NFL comments"

I hope that racist woman falls over and breaks a hip
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-09-26 1:59 PM (#680932 - in reply to #680030)
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"Fire them for kneeling" What a racist comment to make!! This Country is imploding!!
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-09-26 2:06 PM (#680933 - in reply to #680030)
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Rob, you also stated police getting away with their crimes....

How about the beating Reginald Denny took when he was dragged out of his truck and beaten with bottles being smashed against his head, kicked, punched, and lastly had a fire extinguisher pummel his head three times. His head is still damaged to this day. They had all of his assailants on video, caught red handed....Yet, every single one of them got away with it.
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-09-26 2:09 PM (#680934 - in reply to #680926)
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robstones - 2017-09-26 1:05 PM

Would locking arms have the same impact? Would it gather the same attention?

This is a protest, folks.... it's not meant to be respectful, it's meant to draw attention... mission accomplished.


Locking arms shows unity, and yes, it would be talked about in a much more positive way.

Kneeling is not protesting, its disrespecting!
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-09-26 2:13 PM (#680935 - in reply to #680931)
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Mikey Red - 2017-09-26 1:59 PM

Mjolnir - 2017-09-26 1:53 PM

This is now beyond stupid...Just saw this headline in NY Daily News:

"Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee takes knee on House floor to protest Trump’s NFL comments"

I hope that racist woman falls over and breaks a hip


Come now Mikey, black hips matter too
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-09-26 2:15 PM (#680936 - in reply to #680935)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-09-26 2:13 PM

Mikey Red - 2017-09-26 1:59 PM

Mjolnir - 2017-09-26 1:53 PM

This is now beyond stupid...Just saw this headline in NY Daily News:

"Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee takes knee on House floor to protest Trump’s NFL comments"

I hope that racist woman falls over and breaks a hip


Come now Mikey, black hips matter too

lol lol yep true...but I wish the feeling was reciprocal
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-09-26 2:21 PM (#680938 - in reply to #680030)
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Im going to take a knee protesting Rob lol
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-09-26 3:20 PM (#680939 - in reply to #680931)
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Mikey Red - 2017-09-26 3:59 PM

Mjolnir - 2017-09-26 1:53 PM

This is now beyond stupid...Just saw this headline in NY Daily News:

"Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee takes knee on House floor to protest Trump’s NFL comments"

I hope that racist woman falls over and breaks a hip


No you don't...you'd be paying for her hip replacement.
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Mcphee
Posted 2017-09-26 3:23 PM (#680941 - in reply to #680928)
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Funny that it makes the news a month after it happened.If the colors were reversed,I think there would just be a tad more uproar over this.
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Mcphee
Posted 2017-09-26 3:28 PM (#680942 - in reply to #680941)
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Here is another goodie.
http://abc7.com/armed-robbery-suspect-may-sue-man-who-thwarted-him/...

Try to rob a Starbucks with a fake gun and a knife.Have someone stop you with a chair,fight with the Good Samaritan,both get stabbed,and threaten to sue the Good Samaritan because he tried to killed you.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-09-26 3:56 PM (#680943 - in reply to #680939)
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Mjolnir - 2017-09-26 3:20 PM

Mikey Red - 2017-09-26 3:59 PM

Mjolnir - 2017-09-26 1:53 PM

This is now beyond stupid...Just saw this headline in NY Daily News:

"Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee takes knee on House floor to protest Trump’s NFL comments"

I hope that racist woman falls over and breaks a hip


No you don't...you'd be paying for her hip replacement.

Lol good point
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-09-26 3:57 PM (#680944 - in reply to #680941)
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Mcphee - 2017-09-26 3:23 PM



Funny that it makes the news a month after it happened.If the colors were reversed,I think there would just be a tad more uproar over this.

100% you are correct...Rob wont agree with that tho
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-09-26 3:57 PM (#680945 - in reply to #680942)
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Mcphee - 2017-09-26 3:28 PM

Here is another goodie.
http://abc7.com/armed-robbery-suspect-may-sue-man-who-thwarted-him/...

Try to rob a Starbucks with a fake gun and a knife.Have someone stop you with a chair,fight with the Good Samaritan,both get stabbed,and threaten to sue the Good Samaritan because he tried to killed you.

Unreal!
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Posted 2017-09-28 11:17 AM (#681186 - in reply to #680030)
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No more politics. I tried to be nice and made an "other sports" thread for you yahoos and you turned it into a political thread. I'm not making "OT: Race wars" next.

Move on or I'll start deleting posts, and then next step is freezing/deleting the thread. God forbid we talk about Rangers hockey around here.

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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-09-28 11:23 AM (#681188 - in reply to #680030)
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Booooooooo lol
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