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Posted 2017-10-10 8:52 AM (#682612 - in reply to #682544)
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Cracknell is a righty shot, and can play all 3 forward positions. They may be better off having him and his size up the middle

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Posted 2017-10-10 8:54 AM (#682613 - in reply to #682544)
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Carey, Cracknell, Fast.
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Posted 2017-10-10 9:35 AM (#682616 - in reply to #682544)
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Cracknell is only 45% at the dots. Where are all my "faceoffs are really important" peeps?
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Posted 2017-10-10 9:53 AM (#682617 - in reply to #682544)
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Probably somewhere facing off.
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Andy Bathgate
Posted 2017-10-10 9:59 AM (#682618 - in reply to #682608)
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Mikey Red - 2017-10-10 10:33 AM

He said that AB? really? I missed it....That would tick me off because according to Henrik...its never his fault


Most of the times I agree with him... being forced to watch many feeds from different broadcasters... The Rangers have a horrible overall team defense, and some mediocre defensemen, Hank is obviously in decline, but get's no help from the team. Look what happened when the team played a solid game in front him on Sunday.


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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-10-10 10:34 AM (#682619 - in reply to #682618)
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Andy Bathgate - 2017-10-10 9:59 AM

Mikey Red - 2017-10-10 10:33 AM

He said that AB? really? I missed it....That would tick me off because according to Henrik...its never his fault


Most of the times I agree with him... being forced to watch many feeds from different broadcasters... The Rangers have a horrible overall team defense, and some mediocre defensemen, Hank is obviously in decline, but get's no help from the team. Look what happened when the team played a solid game in front him on Sunday.



Yeah I hear ya
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-10-10 10:35 AM (#682620 - in reply to #682609)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2017-10-10 8:43 AM

Cracknell sucks. He's better than Carey though who is totally useless. I guess our 4th line will be Fast-Desharnais-Cracknell. I don't see the point of having a midget centering your 4th line. We can only hope they can bring Lindberg back. He was perfect in that role.

JG has me scratching my head
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-10-10 11:23 AM (#682626 - in reply to #682616)
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concust - 2017-10-10 9:35 AM

Cracknell is only 45% at the dots. Where are all my "faceoffs are really important" peeps?


Ask the pro's if they find it important...
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-10-10 11:35 AM (#682627 - in reply to #682607)
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Andy Bathgate - 2017-10-10 10:27 AM

mpcelo45 - 2017-10-10 9:16 AM

My biggest issue here is AV making irrational decisions. Why dress 7 defensemen to have one of those 7 (DeAngelo) play for only 3:45 and sit the entire 3rd period when he clearly has better vision than Kampfer and Holden, against montreal he had 3 stretch passes that nearly went for goals. Why Kampfer and Holden have been given 2nd pairing minutes when they are not the best options, is beyond me, and here i thought that Ruff would be making those decisions and not AV (who knows maybe ruff is).

I dont know with AV.....Chytil sitting in the press box is not making him want it any more than sitting on the bench. Stupid mind games that he plays with the kids.

We are in the beginning of the season let him play and make the mistakes early on, we are not at crunch time at this moment, that is why there is 9 games before you have to send him back.






Hank sent a coded message in his interview after their win on Sunday, "It's nice to finally play with people who know what their doing out there' .... I don't know if he was referring to players or the system they were trying to play.

There's a lot of things I don't like about AV, specially after that Ottawa series, but him playing mind games with kids, I don't see it. Like people always say the same thing about Miller, AV is destroying him... but mean while, Miller makes 6 or 7 huge mistakes a game.. fundamental mistakes and missed assignments...He has a very low hockey IQ, how many hours do the coaching staff spend with Miller showing him on film what needs to be done, if Miller had the Hockey sense of Fast or Nash he'd be an Allstar.

The Rangers started 0-2... a bad start can sink you in specially in this crazy division we're in... so I think in todays NHL, early is crunch time.





Andy, over the past couple of decades, the Rangers have not been a fundamentally sound team. It's as if they skipped Hockey 101, 102, 103 and a few other "classes". Your "complete" players a few and far between because everything is specialized. This has become the bane of all the major sports.


As for Hank's coded message: I'll bet he wants to take that back after watching what's gone on in front of him so far.

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sureshore
Posted 2017-10-10 3:16 PM (#682653 - in reply to #682544)
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Why do I want to sing "Adam Crack-nell and I don't care"?
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-10-10 3:55 PM (#682659 - in reply to #682616)
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concust - 2017-10-10 9:35 AM

Cracknell is only 45% at the dots. Where are all my "faceoffs are really important" peeps?


http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/penguins-questions/2009/12/18/On...

Article about how Crosby works on his Face-offs.....Imagine what he would do if they were important!

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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-10-10 4:09 PM (#682660 - in reply to #682544)
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Posted 2017-10-10 4:11 PM (#682661 - in reply to #682544)
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AV squad showing MacDonagh and Sjkei going to the gym
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Posted 2017-10-10 4:12 PM (#682662 - in reply to #682544)
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Posted 2017-10-10 6:51 PM (#682840 - in reply to #682607)
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Andy Bathgate - 2017-10-10 10:27 AM

mpcelo45 - 2017-10-10 9:16 AM

My biggest issue here is AV making irrational decisions. Why dress 7 defensemen to have one of those 7 (DeAngelo) play for only 3:45 and sit the entire 3rd period when he clearly has better vision than Kampfer and Holden, against montreal he had 3 stretch passes that nearly went for goals. Why Kampfer and Holden have been given 2nd pairing minutes when they are not the best options, is beyond me, and here i thought that Ruff would be making those decisions and not AV (who knows maybe ruff is).

I dont know with AV.....Chytil sitting in the press box is not making him want it any more than sitting on the bench. Stupid mind games that he plays with the kids.

We are in the beginning of the season let him play and make the mistakes early on, we are not at crunch time at this moment, that is why there is 9 games before you have to send him back.



Hank sent a coded message in his interview after their win on Sunday, "It's nice to finally play with people who know what their doing out there' .... I don't know if he was referring to players or the system they were trying to play.

There's a lot of things I don't like about AV, specially after that Ottawa series, but him playing mind games with kids, I don't see it. Like people always say the same thing about Miller, AV is destroying him... but mean while, Miller makes 6 or 7 huge mistakes a game.. fundamental mistakes and missed assignments...He has a very low hockey IQ, how many hours do the coaching staff spend with Miller showing him on film what needs to be done, if Miller had the Hockey sense of Fast or Nash he'd be an Allstar.

The Rangers started 0-2... a bad start can sink you in specially in this crazy division we're in... so I think in todays NHL, early is crunch time.







If it is crunch time then we are in even more trouble considering that Staal is getting 2nd pairing minutes tonight against St. Louis....while Smith and DeAngelo sit in the rafters. This coach is off his meds. I dont mind playing guys that are on a roll or on a hot streak but Kampfer and Holden?????
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Posted 2017-10-10 8:59 PM (#682957 - in reply to #682840)
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mpcelo45 - 2017-10-10 5:51 PM

Andy Bathgate - 2017-10-10 10:27 AM

mpcelo45 - 2017-10-10 9:16 AM

My biggest issue here is AV making irrational decisions. Why dress 7 defensemen to have one of those 7 (DeAngelo) play for only 3:45 and sit the entire 3rd period when he clearly has better vision than Kampfer and Holden, against montreal he had 3 stretch passes that nearly went for goals. Why Kampfer and Holden have been given 2nd pairing minutes when they are not the best options, is beyond me, and here i thought that Ruff would be making those decisions and not AV (who knows maybe ruff is).

I dont know with AV.....Chytil sitting in the press box is not making him want it any more than sitting on the bench. Stupid mind games that he plays with the kids.

We are in the beginning of the season let him play and make the mistakes early on, we are not at crunch time at this moment, that is why there is 9 games before you have to send him back.



Hank sent a coded message in his interview after their win on Sunday, "It's nice to finally play with people who know what their doing out there' .... I don't know if he was referring to players or the system they were trying to play.

There's a lot of things I don't like about AV, specially after that Ottawa series, but him playing mind games with kids, I don't see it. Like people always say the same thing about Miller, AV is destroying him... but mean while, Miller makes 6 or 7 huge mistakes a game.. fundamental mistakes and missed assignments...He has a very low hockey IQ, how many hours do the coaching staff spend with Miller showing him on film what needs to be done, if Miller had the Hockey sense of Fast or Nash he'd be an Allstar.

The Rangers started 0-2... a bad start can sink you in specially in this crazy division we're in... so I think in todays NHL, early is crunch time.







If it is crunch time then we are in even more trouble considering that Staal is getting 2nd pairing minutes tonight against St. Louis....while Smith and DeAngelo sit in the rafters. This coach is off his meds. I dont mind playing guys that are on a roll or on a hot streak but Kampfer and Holden?????





Staal has deserved every minute he’s got so far this season.
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concust
Posted 2017-10-11 6:10 AM (#682964 - in reply to #682659)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-10-10 4:55 PM

concust - 2017-10-10 9:35 AM

Cracknell is only 45% at the dots. Where are all my "faceoffs are really important" peeps?


http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/penguins-questions/2009/12/18/On...

Article about how Crosby works on his Face-offs.....Imagine what he would do if they were important!



All that work on faceoffs and the best player in the world is still second to Greg McKegg on his own team.

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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-10-11 9:12 AM (#682978 - in reply to #682964)
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concust - 2017-10-11 6:10 AM

Rangerjunkie - 2017-10-10 4:55 PM

concust - 2017-10-10 9:35 AM

Cracknell is only 45% at the dots. Where are all my "faceoffs are really important" peeps?


http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/penguins-questions/2009/12/18/On...

Article about how Crosby works on his Face-offs.....Imagine what he would do if they were important!



All that work on faceoffs and the best player in the world is still second to Greg McKegg on his own team.



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Posted 2017-10-11 9:24 AM (#682979 - in reply to #682957)
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Rranger - 2017-10-10 10:59 PM


Staal has deserved every minute he’s got so far this season.


On this I would respectfully disagree. Has he been better than most times last year? - yes. Does he deserve anything above 3rd pairing minutes based on his play - no. Last season he didn't even belong on the ice so I guess you could say he's been better
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Rranger
Posted 2017-10-11 9:32 AM (#682981 - in reply to #682979)
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Rranger - 2017-10-10 10:59 PM


Staal has deserved every minute he’s got so far this season.


On this I would respectfully disagree. Has he been better than most times last year? - yes. Does he deserve anything above 3rd pairing minutes based on his play - no. Last season he didn't even belong on the ice so I guess you could say he's been better




And who has been better, steadier than him this year? After McDonagh its a sheet show, and Staal is the only one deserving of playing with McDonagh.
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Posted 2017-10-11 9:36 AM (#682982 - in reply to #682981)
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Rranger - 2017-10-11 11:32 AM

sureshore - 2017-10-11 8:24 AM

Rranger - 2017-10-10 10:59 PM


Staal has deserved every minute he’s got so far this season.


On this I would respectfully disagree. Has he been better than most times last year? - yes. Does he deserve anything above 3rd pairing minutes based on his play - no. Last season he didn't even belong on the ice so I guess you could say he's been better




And who has been better, steadier than him this year? After McDonagh its a sheet show, and Staal is the only one deserving of playing with McDonagh.


Well said R

Blind hatred is just....blind. He has certainly played better in this 4 game season so far than last year....and has certainly merited his icetime.
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Posted 2017-10-11 9:42 AM (#682983 - in reply to #682544)
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And that's only because AV has been forced to put him in a position where he can succeed.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-10-11 9:45 AM (#682984 - in reply to #682544)
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Staal is deservedly in the running for the Norris
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Posted 2017-10-11 9:59 AM (#682985 - in reply to #682984)
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Mikey Red - 2017-10-11 11:45 AM

Staal is deservedly in the running for the Norris


Put the beer down...it's too early in the day.
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Rranger
Posted 2017-10-11 10:09 AM (#682986 - in reply to #682984)
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Mikey Red - 2017-10-11 8:45 AM

Staal is deservedly in the running for the Norris



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Posted 2017-10-11 10:10 AM (#682987 - in reply to #682985)
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Mikey Red - 2017-10-11 11:45 AM

Staal is deservedly in the running for the Norris


Put the beer down...it's too early in the day.

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mpcelo45
Posted 2017-10-11 12:23 PM (#682994 - in reply to #682544)
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Yes Staal has been better than last year but not 2nd pairing, bottom pairing yes.

What is your assessment of Holden and Kampfer are they better than last year.....i saw Holden make plenty of mistakes in the last two games (where our fearless leader said he and kampfer where our BEST pairing). also Kampfer with a horrific giveaway to Stastny last night that led to the game winning, goal.

Ironic didnt DeAngelo make the same mistake and was benched the remainder of the game and then benched the following game, Kampfer was rewarded with top pairing alongside McD toward the end of the game. AV has no ****ing clue where his head is much less know the matchups.

Holden and Kampfer played that majority of the first and second period matched up against the Tarasenko line. Through two periods this is the minutes for the pairings

Kampfer - 4:43
Holden - 4:33
McDonagh - 4:00
Staal - 3:45
Shattenkirk - 1:04
Skjei - 1:01

How is this good coaching????? Not to mention we could not generate any offense because of the trap and the inability to move the puck through the neutral zone (betcha if DeAngelo or Smith were playing this would have been a better matchup).

Ugghhhh this guy kills me.


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concust
Posted 2017-10-11 2:57 PM (#683008 - in reply to #682544)
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Holden, and Kampfer, are replacement level NHL defensemen. That is they typically should play on bottom pair, and should be able to hold an NHL job. In a vacuum neither one is a problem. But that assumes you use them correctly - shelter their zone starts, play them with legit NHL defensemen, give them a system where the forwards support enough to make zone exits simpler by pressuring forecheck into turnovers. Basic hockey. That's what you do for weaker defensemen.

What I've seen from AV is the exact OPPOSITE. Play your two weakest defensemen together, against the top competition, and employ a system where the forwards hang out waiting for an outlet pass rather than going down low and supporting defensemen. Holden and Kampfer can't win enough battles on their own to make this an effective strategy. But still they're out there!

Maybe AV "lost track of his defensemen" again and forgot who was available. Maybe I should blame this on Ruff, who is supposed to be taking over some of these responsibilities? Truth is, I'm not a big Ruff fan either so it doesn't surprise me that we get more of the same out of him. In the end it doesn't matter. The coaching staff is screwing the pooch on this one so badly that it makes our lack of forward depth and goal scoring, somehow a secondary topic.


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Posted 2017-10-11 5:25 PM (#683016 - in reply to #682544)
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Thank whoever Tarasenko blew all his chances because he went around Holden and Kampfer like they were standing still at least a dozen times. Then our great announcers pointed out that the Blues were making an effort to get him out against Holden/Kampfer. Of course we had last change and AV was "matching" them against him.
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Posted 2017-10-11 5:28 PM (#683017 - in reply to #682544)
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The best part is AV's logic on Staal. He doesn't want to waste an offensive defenseman's zone starts next to a defensive defenseman so he matched Staal with Mac. Obviously playing an offensive defenseman with another one is a better option.
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Posted 2017-10-12 8:54 AM (#683033 - in reply to #683017)
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Vua - 2017-10-11 4:28 PM

The best part is AV's logic on Staal. He doesn't want to waste an offensive defenseman's zone starts next to a defensive defenseman so he matched Staal with Mac. Obviously playing an offensive defenseman with another one is a better option.





Prior to next game the AV food processor will have the players thrown in and I'm sure some major shuffling will occur.
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Posted 2017-10-12 11:58 AM (#683041 - in reply to #682544)
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Welp here we go.

Chris Kreider Mika Zibanejad Pavel Buchnevich
Rick Nash, Kevin Hayes, Mats Zuccarello
Jimmy Vesey, David Desharnais, JT Miller
Michael Grabner, Paul Carey, Adam Cracknell




In a related story JT Miller was taken to the hospital to get treated for being jerked around.


Edited by Rranger 2017-10-12 11:59 AM
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-10-12 12:02 PM (#683042 - in reply to #682544)
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Posted 2017-10-12 12:38 PM (#683044 - in reply to #683041)
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Rranger - 2017-10-12 11:58 AM

Welp here we go.

Chris Kreider Mika Zibanejad Pavel Buchnevich
Rick Nash, Kevin Hayes, Mats Zuccarello
Jimmy Vesey, David Desharnais, JT Miller
Michael Grabner, Paul Carey, Adam Cracknell




In a related story JT Miller was taken to the hospital to get treated for being jerked around.


Nice to see Day Har Nay is finally getting in a game...Wait, he's played in the previous 4?? I haven't noticed!!
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Posted 2017-10-12 12:57 PM (#683045 - in reply to #683044)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-10-12 11:38 AM

Rranger - 2017-10-12 11:58 AM

Welp here we go.

Chris Kreider Mika Zibanejad Pavel Buchnevich
Rick Nash, Kevin Hayes, Mats Zuccarello
Jimmy Vesey, David Desharnais, JT Miller
Michael Grabner, Paul Carey, Adam Cracknell




In a related story JT Miller was taken to the hospital to get treated for being jerked around.


Nice to see Day Har Nay is finally getting in a game...Wait, he's played in the previous 4?? I haven't noticed!!






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