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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-10-26 11:56 AM (#685019 - in reply to #685015)
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NTHockey - 2017-10-26 6:11 AM

In defense of Kreider, how much of his bad play falls on the coach? H ow much crap did he take after the Price hit? How much has he affected Kreider's play with AV's lack of coaching ability? We may never know but trading Kreider for Galchenyuk is Definitely NOT the answer.

I remember how terrified DelZotto looked playing under Tortso. He was so afraid of making a mistake and getting chewed out that it affected his game terribly. Or Tortso's "Hagelin is too fast for the PP".


I think the Price hit was his undoing.






That and playing for a coach who has no idea how to handle him.


I have to wonder about that....
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Rranger
Posted 2017-10-26 12:51 PM (#685024 - in reply to #685019)
Subject: Re: Tony D gassed


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Mjolnir - 2017-10-26 10:56 AM

Rranger - 2017-10-26 1:39 PM

Mjolnir - 2017-10-26 8:21 AM

NTHockey - 2017-10-26 6:11 AM

In defense of Kreider, how much of his bad play falls on the coach? H ow much crap did he take after the Price hit? How much has he affected Kreider's play with AV's lack of coaching ability? We may never know but trading Kreider for Galchenyuk is Definitely NOT the answer.

I remember how terrified DelZotto looked playing under Tortso. He was so afraid of making a mistake and getting chewed out that it affected his game terribly. Or Tortso's "Hagelin is too fast for the PP".


I think the Price hit was his undoing.






That and playing for a coach who has no idea how to handle him.


I have to wonder about that....





I don’t. His list of players that have improved under his coaching is not very long.
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concust
Posted 2017-10-26 2:39 PM (#685032 - in reply to #685024)
Subject: Re: Tony D gassed



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Rranger - 2017-10-26 1:51 PM

Mjolnir - 2017-10-26 10:56 AM

Rranger - 2017-10-26 1:39 PM

Mjolnir - 2017-10-26 8:21 AM

NTHockey - 2017-10-26 6:11 AM

In defense of Kreider, how much of his bad play falls on the coach? H ow much crap did he take after the Price hit? How much has he affected Kreider's play with AV's lack of coaching ability? We may never know but trading Kreider for Galchenyuk is Definitely NOT the answer.

I remember how terrified DelZotto looked playing under Tortso. He was so afraid of making a mistake and getting chewed out that it affected his game terribly. Or Tortso's "Hagelin is too fast for the PP".


I think the Price hit was his undoing.






That and playing for a coach who has no idea how to handle him.


I have to wonder about that....





I don’t. His list of players that have improved under his coaching is not very long.


AV historically does not have a good reputation with players with under 3 years of experience. Most get jerked around a fair amount (Miller, Buchnecich, Duclair) because AV has no idea what to do with a kid who's not hot. When he's hot it's easy, play him in the top 6 and take credit for his successes. When he's not, it's fourth line duty playing with no talent (Buch) or put him on a shuttle to and from Hartford 5 times a year (Miller) or bench him/scratch him/send him to juniors/force him out (Duclair)

This is not a NYR situation either, his reputation for doing this stretches well back into his Vancouver days.

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