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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-11-04 7:47 PM (#686565 - in reply to #686349)
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Posted 2017-11-04 7:47 PM (#686566 - in reply to #686349)
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One more win and forget about double going anywhere.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-11-04 7:47 PM (#686567 - in reply to #686562)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-11-04 7:47 PM

Still hate em

totally hate them
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-11-04 7:48 PM (#686568 - in reply to #686567)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-11-04 7:47 PM

Still hate em

totally hate them


Not "them" Him, Shatt
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-11-04 7:48 PM (#686569 - in reply to #686349)
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We should of won this in regulatory time...almost 50 shots on goal...
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-11-04 7:49 PM (#686570 - in reply to #686568)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-11-04 7:48 PM

Mikey Red - 2017-11-04 7:47 PM

Rangerjunkie - 2017-11-04 7:47 PM

Still hate em

totally hate them


Not "them" Him, Shatt

Ok lol I hear ya...I dug it
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-11-04 7:49 PM (#686571 - in reply to #686566)
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Rranger - 2017-11-04 7:47 PM

One more win and forget about double going anywhere.

He's gonna get an extension
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-11-04 7:50 PM (#686572 - in reply to #686349)
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-11-04 7:51 PM (#686573 - in reply to #686349)
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-11-04 7:52 PM (#686574 - in reply to #686349)
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Shattenkirk has double the amount of goals than stepan
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Rranger
Posted 2017-11-04 7:55 PM (#686575 - in reply to #686349)
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Well at least it’s starting to look like The staff is seeing through day near shay. Didn’t play much in th3 third.
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robstones
Posted 2017-11-04 7:58 PM (#686577 - in reply to #686349)
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Yeah Shattenkirk is terrible.

4g 9a in 15gp.... among the best offensive production in the league for defenseman.... 3rd on the team in goals and points.... terrible, though....
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-11-04 8:00 PM (#686578 - in reply to #686575)
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Rranger - 2017-11-04 7:55 PM

Well at least it’s starting to look like The staff is seeing through day near shay. Didn’t play much in th3 third.


True! But how much did Carey play?

I would think AV will continue with Day Far Away over Carey. But, maybe, just maybe move him down to the 4th and give Boo the chance at 3rd line center
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-11-04 8:01 PM (#686579 - in reply to #686577)
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robstones - 2017-11-04 7:58 PM

Yeah Shattenkirk is terrible.

4g 9a in 15gp.... among the best offensive production in the league for defenseman.... 3rd on the team in goals and points.... terrible, though....


Where does he rank on give aways and turnovers??
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-11-04 8:02 PM (#686580 - in reply to #686349)
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Shatt is very dicey in his own end
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-11-04 8:03 PM (#686581 - in reply to #686349)
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-11-04 8:04 PM (#686582 - in reply to #686577)
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robstones - 2017-11-04 7:58 PM

Yeah Shattenkirk is terrible.

4g 9a in 15gp.... among the best offensive production in the league for defenseman.... 3rd on the team in goals and points.... terrible, though....


Might be good offensively, SUCKS defensively!!

Not even you can defend him there!
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Pierre_Pdare
Posted 2017-11-04 8:07 PM (#686583 - in reply to #686349)
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ranger fans are outside of the arena during the postgame show yell "Let's go Rangers Potvin SUCKS!"

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Vua
Posted 2017-11-04 8:07 PM (#686584 - in reply to #686582)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-11-04 8:04 PM

robstones - 2017-11-04 7:58 PM

Yeah Shattenkirk is terrible.

4g 9a in 15gp.... among the best offensive production in the league for defenseman.... 3rd on the team in goals and points.... terrible, though....


Might be good offensively, SUCKS defensively!!

Not even you can defend him there!


Which defensemen on this team hasn't been dicey this year?
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-11-04 8:12 PM (#686585 - in reply to #686584)
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Vua - 2017-11-04 8:07 PM

Rangerjunkie - 2017-11-04 8:04 PM

robstones - 2017-11-04 7:58 PM

Yeah Shattenkirk is terrible.

4g 9a in 15gp.... among the best offensive production in the league for defenseman.... 3rd on the team in goals and points.... terrible, though....


Might be good offensively, SUCKS defensively!!

Not even you can defend him there!


Which defensemen on this team hasn't been dicey this year?


Oh, don't get me wrong, they have all been bad. BUT, Shatty was the guy that was going to come in be the final piece, and make the defense soooo much better! The defense is worse!
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-11-04 8:16 PM (#686586 - in reply to #686349)
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Like I said, good offensively, Terrible Defensively!

He's bottom pair bad!!
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Rranger
Posted 2017-11-04 8:16 PM (#686587 - in reply to #686578)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-11-04 7:00 PM

Rranger - 2017-11-04 7:55 PM

Well at least it’s starting to look like The staff is seeing through day near shay. Didn’t play much in th3 third.


True! But how much did Carey play?

I would think AV will continue with Day Far Away over Carey. But, maybe, just maybe move him down to the 4th and give Boo the chance at 3rd line center





Carey didnt either but in previous games Desharnais kept playing. At least he finally got sat. And they were going to sit him tonight so I’d assume Boo was moving up to three hole if he wasn’t sick.
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robstones
Posted 2017-11-04 8:18 PM (#686588 - in reply to #686584)
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Vua - 2017-11-04 10:07 PM

Rangerjunkie - 2017-11-04 8:04 PM

robstones - 2017-11-04 7:58 PM

Yeah Shattenkirk is terrible.

4g 9a in 15gp.... among the best offensive production in the league for defenseman.... 3rd on the team in goals and points.... terrible, though....


Might be good offensively, SUCKS defensively!!

Not even you can defend him there!


Which defensemen on this team hasn't been dicey this year?


He doesn't suck defensively as bad as Girardi....

I think Ruff has them playing a slightly different system.... Shattenkirk is learning not just AV's style, but everyone is learning Lindy Ruff's new scheme, too.

I don't know that he'll ever be put in a shut down role, or given significant PK time, but he's on pace to a 20+ goal 70 pt season.... I'll deal with the occational turnover....
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Rranger
Posted 2017-11-04 8:21 PM (#686589 - in reply to #686349)
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Shattenkirk is as bad as Holden defensively. Smith is inconsistent frequently, Kampfer has his moments. The Rangers need some upgrading including a defensive stud that can play and prop up Shattenkirk defensively.
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Pierre_Pdare
Posted 2017-11-04 8:22 PM (#686590 - in reply to #686349)
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Holden is our 4th Dman... Laughable

Edited by Pierre_Pdare 2017-11-04 8:23 PM
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Rranger
Posted 2017-11-04 8:34 PM (#686591 - in reply to #686588)
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robstones - 2017-11-04 7:18 PM

Vua - 2017-11-04 10:07 PM

Rangerjunkie - 2017-11-04 8:04 PM

robstones - 2017-11-04 7:58 PM

Yeah Shattenkirk is terrible.

4g 9a in 15gp.... among the best offensive production in the league for defenseman.... 3rd on the team in goals and points.... terrible, though....


Might be good offensively, SUCKS defensively!!

Not even you can defend him there!


Which defensemen on this team hasn't been dicey this year?


He doesn't suck defensively as bad as Girardi....

I think Ruff has them playing a slightly different system.... Shattenkirk is learning not just AV's style, but everyone is learning Lindy Ruff's new scheme, too.

I don't know that he'll ever be put in a shut down role, or given significant PK time, but he's on pace to a 20+ goal 70 pt season.... I'll deal with the occational turnover....





Assistant coaches do what head coaches tell them to. Responsibilities and schemes may be discussed but Vigneault decides. Ruff is coaching the same system as last year. Shattenkirk and the rest are not learning physics out there, Shattenkirk has been in the league long enough to know what’s going on after a 20 minute chalk talk. He sucks defensively and needs to put up 60 to 70 points to offset.
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Vua
Posted 2017-11-04 10:27 PM (#686592 - in reply to #686591)
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Rranger - 2017-11-04 8:34 PM

robstones - 2017-11-04 7:18 PM

Vua - 2017-11-04 10:07 PM

Rangerjunkie - 2017-11-04 8:04 PM

robstones - 2017-11-04 7:58 PM

Yeah Shattenkirk is terrible.

4g 9a in 15gp.... among the best offensive production in the league for defenseman.... 3rd on the team in goals and points.... terrible, though....


Might be good offensively, SUCKS defensively!!

Not even you can defend him there!


Which defensemen on this team hasn't been dicey this year?


He doesn't suck defensively as bad as Girardi....

I think Ruff has them playing a slightly different system.... Shattenkirk is learning not just AV's style, but everyone is learning Lindy Ruff's new scheme, too.

I don't know that he'll ever be put in a shut down role, or given significant PK time, but he's on pace to a 20+ goal 70 pt season.... I'll deal with the occational turnover....





Assistant coaches do what head coaches tell them to. Responsibilities and schemes may be discussed but Vigneault decides. Ruff is coaching the same system as last year. Shattenkirk and the rest are not learning physics out there, Shattenkirk has been in the league long enough to know what’s going on after a 20 minute chalk talk. He sucks defensively and needs to put up 60 to 70 points to offset.


He may not be great defensively but he's never been this. The entire defense has been a wreck and calling him out for it without killing the rest of them is laughable. Maybe it's not the players so much as the plan.
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Rranger
Posted 2017-11-04 10:39 PM (#686593 - in reply to #686592)
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Vua - 2017-11-04 9:27 PM

Rranger - 2017-11-04 8:34 PM

robstones - 2017-11-04 7:18 PM

Vua - 2017-11-04 10:07 PM

Rangerjunkie - 2017-11-04 8:04 PM

robstones - 2017-11-04 7:58 PM

Yeah Shattenkirk is terrible.

4g 9a in 15gp.... among the best offensive production in the league for defenseman.... 3rd on the team in goals and points.... terrible, though....


Might be good offensively, SUCKS defensively!!

Not even you can defend him there!


Which defensemen on this team hasn't been dicey this year?


He doesn't suck defensively as bad as Girardi....

I think Ruff has them playing a slightly different system.... Shattenkirk is learning not just AV's style, but everyone is learxning Lindy Ruff's new scheme, too.

I don't know that he'll ever be put in a shut down role, or given significant PK time, but he's on pace to a 20+ goal 70 pt season.... I'll deal with the occational turnover....





Assistant coaches do what head coaches tell them to. Responsibilities and schemes may be discussed but Vigneault decides. Ruff is coaching the same system as last year. Shattenkirk and the rest are not learning physics out there, Shattenkirk has been in the league long enough to know what’s going on after a 20 minute chalk talk. He sucks defensively and needs to put up 60 to 70 points to offset.


He may not be great defensively but he's never been this. The entire defense has been a wreck and calling him out for it without killing the rest of them is laughable. Maybe it's not the players so much as the plan.




No what's laughable is you coming along and deciding what the conversation should be. The discussion is about Shattenkirk. You want to start a post about the entire defence fly at it.
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Andy Bathgate
Posted 2017-11-04 11:53 PM (#686594 - in reply to #686548)
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Mikey Red - 2017-11-04 9:42 PM

Im sick of the media and most fans never holding him accountable


Why? because they're not over emotion fish, cry babies, 3rd grade simpletons ! Who simply blame everything on the goalie, when there's obviously more depth to why a goal is scored.












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Andy Bathgate
Posted 2017-11-04 11:59 PM (#686595 - in reply to #686589)
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Rranger - 2017-11-04 10:21 PM

Shattenkirk is as bad as Holden defensively. Smith is inconsistent frequently, Kampfer has his moments. The Rangers need some upgrading including a defensive stud that can play and prop up Shattenkirk defensively.



90% of the teams say the same thing, and those other 10% aint giving up their D-men. So where is the upgrading coming from?







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Andy Bathgate
Posted 2017-11-05 12:02 AM (#686596 - in reply to #686580)
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Mikey Red - 2017-11-04 10:02 PM

Shatt is very dicey in his own end


Our "C" has been the worse "dicey" D-man so far this year... hands down... perhaps he needs to better as the leader of the D.








Edited by Andy Bathgate 2017-11-05 12:15 AM
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Rranger
Posted 2017-11-05 12:59 AM (#686597 - in reply to #686595)
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Rranger - 2017-11-04 10:21 PM

Shattenkirk is as bad as Holden defensively. Smith is inconsistent frequently, Kampfer has his moments. The Rangers need some upgrading including a defensive stud that can play and prop up Shattenkirk defensively.



90% of the teams say the same thing, and those other 10% aint giving up their D-men. So where is the upgrading coming from?







In trades. Every team in the league has defensemen that could help. It’s a matter of the right fit and deal. If you move Holden and get somebody a little better your better. Often it’s just your new guy is more consistent. Shattenkirk is going nowhere, but upgrades over Holden, Smith and Kampfer are out there for a creative GM.
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Posted 2017-11-05 4:51 AM (#686598 - in reply to #686579)
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Yeah Shattenkirk is terrible.

4g 9a in 15gp.... among the best offensive production in the league for defenseman.... 3rd on the team in goals and points.... terrible, though....


Where does he rank on give aways and turnovers??


Actually, league worst with 29 giveaways.

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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-11-05 5:55 AM (#686599 - in reply to #686598)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-11-04 10:01 PM

robstones - 2017-11-04 7:58 PM

Yeah Shattenkirk is terrible.

4g 9a in 15gp.... among the best offensive production in the league for defenseman.... 3rd on the team in goals and points.... terrible, though....


Where does he rank on give aways and turnovers??


Actually, league worst with 29 giveaways.



B O O M !
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Posted 2017-11-05 6:33 AM (#686600 - in reply to #686349)
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All I know is that our PP has sucked for years. This is the first time in years the PP is good and Shattenkirk is a big reason why.
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