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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-11-30 6:57 PM (#688936 - in reply to #688894)
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Good teams find a way...Blackhawks win the Cup 3 times in 6 years by getting rid of everyone after each season....Nash alone is 2 salaries...Rangers are an unmittegated disater when it come to building a team to compete for the SC. Total failure of an orginization
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-11-30 7:01 PM (#688937 - in reply to #688894)
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Posted 2017-11-30 7:29 PM (#688938 - in reply to #688935)
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robstones - 2017-11-30 8:46 PM

Keeping all of those players would have been impossible.... we would just be complaining about them not living up to their contracts.


Stop being silly....your truthful statement above doesn't fit the narrative. Don't you know that all we would have to have done is "find a way"? Everyone that was traded away has multiple rings and made their teams champions....woe is us!!!
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Posted 2017-11-30 7:48 PM (#688939 - in reply to #688900)
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Mikey Red - 2017-11-30 12:42 PM

Zib needs to go...as talented as he is...he gets hurt too much and is soft. I like him but he's not reliable on the ice

Totally disagree. The hit that probably caused this was by Darren Helm of the Wings, which was BEFORE the games vs. Vancouver. Zib played through it for one game and tried to go again the other night. The decision to take him out was the right call with this type of injury. The only way to heal from this kind of injury is to do nothing, unlike a soft tissue or bone injury which might heal while you try to play through it.

Helm's hit was a couple of beats late and rocked Zib into the boards. He looked stunned as he slowly went to the bench. And of course, not one Ranger came to his defense.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-11-30 7:48 PM (#688940 - in reply to #688894)
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Mandar its time WE win the F'n SC...Thats what Ranger fans want
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-11-30 7:50 PM (#688941 - in reply to #688939)
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Mikey Red - 2017-11-30 12:42 PM

Zib needs to go...as talented as he is...he gets hurt too much and is soft. I like him but he's not reliable on the ice

Totally disagree. The hit that probably caused this was by Darren Helm of the Wings, which was BEFORE the games vs. Vancouver. Zib played through it for one game and tried to go again the other night. The decision to take him out was the right call with this type of injury. The only way to heal from this kind of injury is to do nothing, unlike a soft tissue or bone injury which might heal while you try to play through it.

Helm's hit was a couple of beats late and rocked Zib into the boards. He looked stunned as he slowly went to the bench. And of course, not one Ranger came to his defense.

Yeah but if it's true its Zibs 4th or 5th concussion then shame on the Rangers for making that deal....I agree that Helm left his feet and made a dirty hit...and of course our Pu$$y team did nothing about it
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-11-30 7:51 PM (#688942 - in reply to #688894)
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Posted 2017-11-30 7:52 PM (#688943 - in reply to #688894)
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Mandar also we have 1 SC in 76 years...obviously we are doing something right
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Posted 2017-11-30 7:57 PM (#688944 - in reply to #688940)
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Mikey Red - 2017-11-30 9:48 PM

Mandar its time WE win the F'n SC...Thats what Ranger fans want


Ohhhhhh....so that's what we want!!!

Keeping everyone we traded away would have gotten us at least 2 cups...maybe more!!! All those guys we traded away have like a bazillion rings too! Stupid GM's we have just couldn't "find a way" to keep them all....and also get Trouba, Duchene, and more...and pay them all without giving anyone up.

The narrative keeps getting deeper and deeper....
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Posted 2017-11-30 7:59 PM (#688945 - in reply to #688943)
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Mikey Red - 2017-11-30 9:52 PM

Mandar also we have 1 SC in 76 years...obviously we are doing something right

Well, you certainly have hit on the formula for having them win....keep everybody, and "find a way"...
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:00 PM (#688946 - in reply to #688944)
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Mikey Red - 2017-11-30 9:48 PM

Mandar its time WE win the F'n SC...Thats what Ranger fans want


Ohhhhhh....so that's what we want!!!

Keeping everyone we traded away would have gotten us at least 2 cups...maybe more!!! All those guys we traded away have like a bazillion rings too! Stupid GM's we have just couldn't "find a way" to keep them all....and also get Trouba, Duchene, and more...and pay them all without giving anyone up.

The narrative keeps getting deeper and deeper....

Who knows..but against the Kings I sure as Hell would of rather had Duby, Artie and Cally on that team than Mr. Softy Nash....Compound that with all the horrendous decisions Sather made and now Gorton is making
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:01 PM (#688947 - in reply to #688945)
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Mandar also we have 1 SC in 76 years...obviously we are doing something right

Well, you certainly have hit on the formula for having them win....keep everybody, and "find a way"...

Maybe my crystal ball doesnt work as good as yours
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:03 PM (#688948 - in reply to #688946)
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Mikey Red - 2017-11-30 9:48 PM

Mandar its time WE win the F'n SC...Thats what Ranger fans want


Ohhhhhh....so that's what we want!!!

Keeping everyone we traded away would have gotten us at least 2 cups...maybe more!!! All those guys we traded away have like a bazillion rings too! Stupid GM's we have just couldn't "find a way" to keep them all....and also get Trouba, Duchene, and more...and pay them all without giving anyone up.

The narrative keeps getting deeper and deeper....

Who knows..but against the Kings I sure as Hell would of rather had Duby, Artie and Cally on that team than Mr. Softy Nash....Compound that with all the horrendous decisions Sather made and now Gorton is making

Do we get to the finals without MSL?
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:04 PM (#688949 - in reply to #688948)
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Mandar - 2017-11-30 8:03 PM

Mikey Red - 2017-11-30 10:00 PM

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Mikey Red - 2017-11-30 9:48 PM

Mandar its time WE win the F'n SC...Thats what Ranger fans want


Ohhhhhh....so that's what we want!!!

Keeping everyone we traded away would have gotten us at least 2 cups...maybe more!!! All those guys we traded away have like a bazillion rings too! Stupid GM's we have just couldn't "find a way" to keep them all....and also get Trouba, Duchene, and more...and pay them all without giving anyone up.

The narrative keeps getting deeper and deeper....

Who knows..but against the Kings I sure as Hell would of rather had Duby, Artie and Cally on that team than Mr. Softy Nash....Compound that with all the horrendous decisions Sather made and now Gorton is making

Do we get to the finals without MSL?

Yes...absoulutely
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:05 PM (#688950 - in reply to #688894)
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I didn’t like Zibanejad’s game at the start of the year, thought he avoided contact and was basically only pounding pucks in the net on the powerplay. As the years gone on his physical play, and he’s never going to be a banger, has picked up. His all round game has steadily improved, and I see some leadership in him in particular encouraging Buchnevich and Kreider and others as well. I’m happy with where his game is at and hope he doesn’t have further concussion issues.
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:05 PM (#688951 - in reply to #688947)
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Mandar also we have 1 SC in 76 years...obviously we are doing something right

Well, you certainly have hit on the formula for having them win....keep everybody, and "find a way"...

Maybe my crystal ball doesnt work as good as yours


See... I don't have a crystal ball...and I don't claim to know what "would have happened" if we kept players and didn't make deals. But some seem to know just that...all they had to do is "find a way".
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:07 PM (#688952 - in reply to #688951)
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Mikey Red - 2017-11-30 9:52 PM

Mandar also we have 1 SC in 76 years...obviously we are doing something right

Well, you certainly have hit on the formula for having them win....keep everybody, and "find a way"...

Maybe my crystal ball doesnt work as good as yours


See... I don't have a crystal ball...and I don't claim to know what "would have happened" if we kept players and didn't make deals. But some seem to know just that...all they had to do is "find a way".

Yep like the Blackhawks and Pengiuns...You are lying if you dont say we should keep who we draft and build a core with
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:07 PM (#688953 - in reply to #688949)
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Mikey Red - 2017-11-30 9:48 PM

Mandar its time WE win the F'n SC...Thats what Ranger fans want


Ohhhhhh....so that's what we want!!!

Keeping everyone we traded away would have gotten us at least 2 cups...maybe more!!! All those guys we traded away have like a bazillion rings too! Stupid GM's we have just couldn't "find a way" to keep them all....and also get Trouba, Duchene, and more...and pay them all without giving anyone up.

The narrative keeps getting deeper and deeper....

Who knows..but against the Kings I sure as Hell would of rather had Duby, Artie and Cally on that team than Mr. Softy Nash....Compound that with all the horrendous decisions Sather made and now Gorton is making

Do we get to the finals without MSL?

Yes...absoulutely


Crystal ball?

How many finals did we get to with Cally, Artie, and Dubie? How did we do with them against the Devils in the conference final?
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:10 PM (#688954 - in reply to #688952)
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Mikey Red - 2017-11-30 9:52 PM

Mandar also we have 1 SC in 76 years...obviously we are doing something right

Well, you certainly have hit on the formula for having them win....keep everybody, and "find a way"...

Maybe my crystal ball doesnt work as good as yours


See... I don't have a crystal ball...and I don't claim to know what "would have happened" if we kept players and didn't make deals. But some seem to know just that...all they had to do is "find a way".

Yep like the Blackhawks and Pengiuns...You are lying if you dont say we should keep who we draft and build a core with


Soooo....now we should have had first or second overall picks in years when generational talents were available? I guess Cally, Artie, and Dubie were the equivalent of Crosby, Malkin, Towes, Kane....

Keep going...this is amusing.
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:11 PM (#688955 - in reply to #688953)
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Mandar - 2017-11-30 8:07 PM

Mikey Red - 2017-11-30 10:04 PM

Mandar - 2017-11-30 8:03 PM

Mikey Red - 2017-11-30 10:00 PM

Mandar - 2017-11-30 7:57 PM

Mikey Red - 2017-11-30 9:48 PM

Mandar its time WE win the F'n SC...Thats what Ranger fans want


Ohhhhhh....so that's what we want!!!

Keeping everyone we traded away would have gotten us at least 2 cups...maybe more!!! All those guys we traded away have like a bazillion rings too! Stupid GM's we have just couldn't "find a way" to keep them all....and also get Trouba, Duchene, and more...and pay them all without giving anyone up.

The narrative keeps getting deeper and deeper....

Who knows..but against the Kings I sure as Hell would of rather had Duby, Artie and Cally on that team than Mr. Softy Nash....Compound that with all the horrendous decisions Sather made and now Gorton is making

Do we get to the finals without MSL?

Yes...absoulutely


Crystal ball?

How many finals did we get to with Cally, Artie, and Dubie? How did we do with them against the Devils in the conference final?

2012 we ran out of gas...Ott took us to 7...Caps took us to 8...Devils series Henrik sh!t the bed in G5...Cally led a great comeback to tie but Henrik failed us....G6 Henrik put us down 2-0....We fought back and Cally was a monster in that game. Perhaps 2014 we could of won it with those guys
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:11 PM (#688956 - in reply to #688941)
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Mikey Red - 2017-11-30 9:50 PM

Yeah but if it's true its Zibs 4th or 5th concussion then shame on the Rangers for making that deal....I agree that Helm left his feet and made a dirty hit...and of course our Pu$$y team did nothing about it

Zib is a solid player who was showing signs of developing into a true #1 center this season. Depending on when his last concussion was, if any, before this, you take the chance to get a player like him. Especially when your center depth is crap like the Rangers had.

All trades are a gamble when you make them.
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:13 PM (#688957 - in reply to #688954)
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Mikey Red - 2017-11-30 9:52 PM

Mandar also we have 1 SC in 76 years...obviously we are doing something right

Well, you certainly have hit on the formula for having them win....keep everybody, and "find a way"...

Maybe my crystal ball doesnt work as good as yours


See... I don't have a crystal ball...and I don't claim to know what "would have happened" if we kept players and didn't make deals. But some seem to know just that...all they had to do is "find a way".

Yep like the Blackhawks and Pengiuns...You are lying if you dont say we should keep who we draft and build a core with


Soooo....now we should have had first or second overall picks in years when generational talents were available? I guess Cally, Artie, and Dubie were the equivalent of Crosby, Malkin, Towes, Kane....

Keep going...this is amusing.

They dont have our Goalie...They drafted a core group and built around it....They won 3 Cups...the joke is on us...we give Staal, Girardi, Richards, Henrik Albatross contracts...which we have bought out 2 of them
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:14 PM (#688958 - in reply to #688956)
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Yeah but if it's true its Zibs 4th or 5th concussion then shame on the Rangers for making that deal....I agree that Helm left his feet and made a dirty hit...and of course our Pu$$y team did nothing about it

Zib is a solid player who was showing signs of developing into a true #1 center this season. Depending on when his last concussion was, if any, before this, you take the chance to get a player like him. Especially when your center depth is crap like the Rangers had.

All trades are a gamble when you make them.

True I hear ya....and I like him...But I wonder why Ott was willing to give him up
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:16 PM (#688959 - in reply to #688955)
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Mandar its time WE win the F'n SC...Thats what Ranger fans want


Ohhhhhh....so that's what we want!!!

Keeping everyone we traded away would have gotten us at least 2 cups...maybe more!!! All those guys we traded away have like a bazillion rings too! Stupid GM's we have just couldn't "find a way" to keep them all....and also get Trouba, Duchene, and more...and pay them all without giving anyone up.

The narrative keeps getting deeper and deeper....

Who knows..but against the Kings I sure as Hell would of rather had Duby, Artie and Cally on that team than Mr. Softy Nash....Compound that with all the horrendous decisions Sather made and now Gorton is making

Do we get to the finals without MSL?

Yes...absoulutely


Crystal ball?

How many finals did we get to with Cally, Artie, and Dubie? How did we do with them against the Devils in the conference final?

2012 we ran out of gas...Ott took us to 7...Caps took us to 8...Devils series Henrik sh!t the bed in G5...Cally led a great comeback to tie but Henrik failed us....G6 Henrik put us down 2-0....We fought back and Cally was a monster in that game. Perhaps 2014 we could of won it with those guys

Yeah, that 8 game series against the Caps was excruciating....hate those 8 game series.

So...the fact that it took (according to you) 15 games in the first two series had nothing to do with our personnel? If we were so good, why did it take so many games to win those series? Then it was all on Hank against the Devils...of course!

Deeper.....
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:16 PM (#688960 - in reply to #688894)
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Trading a 26 year old Captain who plays in the dirty areas and sending him and 2 #1's to a team for a 38 year old midget should get any GM fired...that is the blueprint on how to ruin your team
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:18 PM (#688961 - in reply to #688960)
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Mikey Red - 2017-11-30 10:16 PM

Trading a 26 year old Captain who plays in the dirty areas and sending him and 2 #1's to a team for a 38 year old midget should get any GM fired...that is the blueprint on how to ruin your team

Would you have given him 5 years, 30 million?
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:19 PM (#688962 - in reply to #688959)
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Mandar its time WE win the F'n SC...Thats what Ranger fans want


Ohhhhhh....so that's what we want!!!

Keeping everyone we traded away would have gotten us at least 2 cups...maybe more!!! All those guys we traded away have like a bazillion rings too! Stupid GM's we have just couldn't "find a way" to keep them all....and also get Trouba, Duchene, and more...and pay them all without giving anyone up.

The narrative keeps getting deeper and deeper....

Who knows..but against the Kings I sure as Hell would of rather had Duby, Artie and Cally on that team than Mr. Softy Nash....Compound that with all the horrendous decisions Sather made and now Gorton is making

Do we get to the finals without MSL?

Yes...absoulutely


Crystal ball?

How many finals did we get to with Cally, Artie, and Dubie? How did we do with them against the Devils in the conference final?

2012 we ran out of gas...Ott took us to 7...Caps took us to 8...Devils series Henrik sh!t the bed in G5...Cally led a great comeback to tie but Henrik failed us....G6 Henrik put us down 2-0....We fought back and Cally was a monster in that game. Perhaps 2014 we could of won it with those guys

Yeah, that 8 game series against the Caps was excruciating....hate those 8 game series.

So...the fact that it took (according to you) 15 games in the first two series had nothing to do with our personnel? If we were so good, why did it take so many games to win those series? Then it was all on Hank against the Devils...of course!

Deeper.....

Ott series was brutal...Hagelin got 3 games for finishing a check...Chris Neil left his feet and ran us and didnt get so much as a phone hearing.....Cap series was a war....with the one game going 3 OT...Im sure they were whipped after that
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:20 PM (#688963 - in reply to #688961)
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Trading a 26 year old Captain who plays in the dirty areas and sending him and 2 #1's to a team for a 38 year old midget should get any GM fired...that is the blueprint on how to ruin your team

Would you have given him 5 years, 30 million?

Yes because I wouldnt of traded for Nash
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:21 PM (#688964 - in reply to #688894)
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:27 PM (#688965 - in reply to #688894)
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Its amazing the run this team has in completely mismanaging player personnel....25 years of utter mismanagement and just starting our 3rd GM in that span
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Posted 2017-11-30 8:30 PM (#688966 - in reply to #688894)
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So I guess it was......
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Posted 2017-11-30 10:02 PM (#688968 - in reply to #688963)
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Mikey Red - 2017-11-30 10:16 PM

Trading a 26 year old Captain who plays in the dirty areas and sending him and 2 #1's to a team for a 38 year old midget should get any GM fired...that is the blueprint on how to ruin your team

Would you have given him 5 years, 30 million?

Yes because I wouldnt of traded for Nash


And deeper.......
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Posted 2017-12-01 6:05 AM (#688970 - in reply to #688894)
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Mikey, when do you work? Your posting output (usually one sentence) happens about every 5 minutes and all day long as well. I gotta get a job like you have
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Posted 2017-12-01 6:48 AM (#688974 - in reply to #688970)
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Mikey, when do you work? Your posting output (usually one sentence) happens about every 5 minutes and all day long as well. I gotta get a job like you have

Union Electrician IBEW...currently out on disability
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Posted 2017-12-01 7:33 AM (#688976 - in reply to #688894)
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Callahan should have been traded but not in that deal. MSL would only go to the Rangers and that leverage was applied not at all. Sorry but the Rangers got mugged. But no way Callahan was worth that contract and we've seen that play out in Tampa.
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