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concust
Posted 2017-12-17 8:09 AM (#690589 - in reply to #690336)
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Mikey Red - 2017-12-15 2:48 PM

Totally gotta sell off on Mac...We got plenty out of him...can't give him another Richards, Staal, Girardi, Stepan, Henrik buy out city contract


Thankfully with the emergence of Skjei and the bargain basement signing of Shattenkirk, we are not in the same position we were in when we signed Staal, Girardi. Rangers have a lot more leverage this time around. I'm happy to keep him, but at the same time, he does not deserve an elite level contract. I feel like we've been making excuses for him for 3 years now.

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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-12-17 1:35 PM (#690594 - in reply to #690589)
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Mikey Red - 2017-12-15 2:48 PM

Totally gotta sell off on Mac...We got plenty out of him...can't give him another Richards, Staal, Girardi, Stepan, Henrik buy out city contract


Thankfully with the emergence of Skjei and the bargain basement signing of Shattenkirk, we are not in the same position we were in when we signed Staal, Girardi. Rangers have a lot more leverage this time around. I'm happy to keep him, but at the same time, he does not deserve an elite level contract. I feel like we've been making excuses for him for 3 years now.

"Bargain basement signing of Shattenkirk" -- seriously? I never thought he was worth what they gave him and he's proven it so far.
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Posted 2017-12-18 12:21 PM (#690605 - in reply to #690594)
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Mjolnir - 2017-12-17 3:35 PM

concust - 2017-12-17 10:09 AM

Mikey Red - 2017-12-15 2:48 PM

Totally gotta sell off on Mac...We got plenty out of him...can't give him another Richards, Staal, Girardi, Stepan, Henrik buy out city contract


Thankfully with the emergence of Skjei and the bargain basement signing of Shattenkirk, we are not in the same position we were in when we signed Staal, Girardi. Rangers have a lot more leverage this time around. I'm happy to keep him, but at the same time, he does not deserve an elite level contract. I feel like we've been making excuses for him for 3 years now.

"Bargain basement signing of Shattenkirk" -- seriously? I never thought he was worth what they gave him and he's proven it so far.


How about less than the going market?
How about only 4 years?
He was worth more than the Rangers paid at going rates plus he wants to be here, it is not just a paycheck.

Questioning his value to the Rangers is a different thing. His D is an adventure, but 5g 17a in 33 games is a nice balance on O.
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Posted 2017-12-18 1:22 PM (#690606 - in reply to #690605)
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Mjolnir - 2017-12-17 3:35 PM

concust - 2017-12-17 10:09 AM

Mikey Red - 2017-12-15 2:48 PM

Totally gotta sell off on Mac...We got plenty out of him...can't give him another Richards, Staal, Girardi, Stepan, Henrik buy out city contract


Thankfully with the emergence of Skjei and the bargain basement signing of Shattenkirk, we are not in the same position we were in when we signed Staal, Girardi. Rangers have a lot more leverage this time around. I'm happy to keep him, but at the same time, he does not deserve an elite level contract. I feel like we've been making excuses for him for 3 years now.

"Bargain basement signing of Shattenkirk" -- seriously? I never thought he was worth what they gave him and he's proven it so far.


How about less than the going market?
How about only 4 years?
He was worth more than the Rangers paid at going rates plus he wants to be here, it is not just a paycheck.

Questioning his value to the Rangers is a different thing. His D is an adventure, but 5g 17a in 33 games is a nice balance on O.


agree 100%. If we had defensive defensemen (i.e., Holden, Staal, Smith) that could do what they are paid to, maybe we wouldn't hear complaining about Shattenkirk's defensive abilities. He was clearly brought here for his offensive skills, which for the most part he's delivered on. What have the 3 stooges delivered at either end of the ice?
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Posted 2017-12-18 1:40 PM (#690607 - in reply to #689255)
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Getting disappointing returns on aging vets and rushing youngsters to fill the gaps--the Rangers playbook seemingly never changes.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-12-18 1:48 PM (#690608 - in reply to #690607)
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Shattenkirk is atrocious on Defense...Horrible signing...NYR playbook for sure
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-12-18 2:30 PM (#690609 - in reply to #690605)
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x10003q - 2017-12-18 2:21 PM

Mjolnir - 2017-12-17 3:35 PM

concust - 2017-12-17 10:09 AM

Mikey Red - 2017-12-15 2:48 PM

Totally gotta sell off on Mac...We got plenty out of him...can't give him another Richards, Staal, Girardi, Stepan, Henrik buy out city contract


Thankfully with the emergence of Skjei and the bargain basement signing of Shattenkirk, we are not in the same position we were in when we signed Staal, Girardi. Rangers have a lot more leverage this time around. I'm happy to keep him, but at the same time, he does not deserve an elite level contract. I feel like we've been making excuses for him for 3 years now.

"Bargain basement signing of Shattenkirk" -- seriously? I never thought he was worth what they gave him and he's proven it so far.


How about less than the going market?
How about only 4 years?
He was worth more than the Rangers paid at going rates plus he wants to be here, it is not just a paycheck.

Questioning his value to the Rangers is a different thing. His D is an adventure, but 5g 17a in 33 games is a nice balance on O.
How about overpaid.
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-12-18 2:40 PM (#690610 - in reply to #689255)
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Not so great for offensive numbers, no? And we all know how bad he is Defensively!

Edited by Rangerjunkie 2017-12-18 2:46 PM
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-12-18 2:43 PM (#690611 - in reply to #689255)
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x10003q
Posted 2017-12-18 3:06 PM (#690612 - in reply to #690609)
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Mjolnir - 2017-12-18 4:30 PM

x10003q - 2017-12-18 2:21 PM

Mjolnir - 2017-12-17 3:35 PM

concust - 2017-12-17 10:09 AM

Mikey Red - 2017-12-15 2:48 PM

Totally gotta sell off on Mac...We got plenty out of him...can't give him another Richards, Staal, Girardi, Stepan, Henrik buy out city contract


Thankfully with the emergence of Skjei and the bargain basement signing of Shattenkirk, we are not in the same position we were in when we signed Staal, Girardi. Rangers have a lot more leverage this time around. I'm happy to keep him, but at the same time, he does not deserve an elite level contract. I feel like we've been making excuses for him for 3 years now.

"Bargain basement signing of Shattenkirk" -- seriously? I never thought he was worth what they gave him and he's proven it so far.


How about less than the going market?
How about only 4 years?
He was worth more than the Rangers paid at going rates plus he wants to be here, it is not just a paycheck.

Questioning his value to the Rangers is a different thing. His D is an adventure, but 5g 17a in 33 games is a nice balance on O.
How about overpaid.


That is more of a philosophical question.

According to most of the rumors, he could have made more money per year for more years. We can only use that as the market. If we go by the market he is underpaid.
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-12-18 4:52 PM (#690616 - in reply to #690612)
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x10003q - 2017-12-18 5:06 PM

According to most of the rumors, he could have made more money per year for more years. We can only use that as the market. If we go by the market he is underpaid.


And there you have it: "rumors" and conjecture. I don't think I'm the only one who wondered at the time if he made that "bargain offer" because he knew he wasn't going to get what was "rumored". Judging by what I saw of him in DC and here, that's a more likely scenario.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-12-19 7:26 AM (#690621 - in reply to #690616)
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Just watch Shattenkirk loligag in th D zone and not try to get in the play to break it up....And he gets beat one on one too much buy people that are not Connor MacDavid
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-12-19 7:28 AM (#690622 - in reply to #689255)
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And we threw the bank at him.....NYR Mangement at its best...Total Ineptness....Off season signing spree of bottom pair defensemen
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-12-19 7:57 AM (#690626 - in reply to #689255)
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Hard to have our youth movement work out when idiot AV sits them after playing well in favor of a washed up vet -- Nieves for Day No Way is a perfect example
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-12-19 8:51 AM (#690627 - in reply to #689255)
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Yep...AV sucks too
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