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Location: 17 miles from MSG | Holden did ok in the last minute - for a change  |
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Location: 17 miles from MSG | Mikey Red - 2017-12-21 9:30 PM
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Earned by Hank |
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Location: Cayman Islands | ALlright boys let's win this thing and get the F our of Jersey... |
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| Shakeykirk on the ice. |
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Location: 17 miles from MSG | Rangers PP - 1:08 left and Shatt is out there |
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Location: AV is gone | Henrik is great tonight but Coleman goal was bad |
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Location: Cayman Islands | Shoulda went with hayes |
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Location: Cayman Islands | Now why do you go with shattenkirk over so many other options? Fire Vigneault right now... |
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Location: AV is gone | Shattenkirk is garbage |
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| No Hayes, No Nash, No Miller, No Buch, lets go with Shattenkirk...........
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Location: New Jersey | Shattenkirk is usually the 3rd guy to shoot, but he sucked tonight.... so let's put him 4th....
Really gotta get Buch in there for these things.
That said Rangers played like garbage. Such a good effort the last few games.... Against The Ducks.... Sloppy most of the night. At least they got a point, but they didn't deserve to win |
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Location: AV is gone | The sad part is we all knew how bad Shattenkirk was defensively and we still signed him to a stupid contract....he cost us 2 pts tonight |
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| In a lot of ways the Devils hung a licking on the Rangers were it not for Lundqvist keeping it close. Another one of those games the Rangers play without a real good team effort. Very disappointing when you lose because of a lack of effort and commitment in trying to beat what has become a dangerous division opponent. No more free rides against the Devils, they are a dark horse in this division, and the Rangers would not match up well with them in a playoff series.
Shattenkirk has come as advertised. His game has holes and unfortunately bigger holes than even his biggest detractors imagined. He is proving to be pretty much useless and mostly harmful to the cause unless he's on a power play with the puck on his stick at the other teams blueline. The rest of the time he's a walking timebomb. I don't know what the Rangers can do with him. He's capable of blowing up a playoff series all by himself. His passing out of his zone is a gong show.
The Rangers have outs with moving him as per Cap friendly ""CLAUSE DETAILS: 2018-20: Player submits a 10 team no trade list. / 2020-21: Player submits an 8 team no trade list.""
Hopefully Gorton could get back a defensive defenseman they should have got in the first place, and let Skjei in particular bloom in the PP role.
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| Shattenkirk should be playing the full 2 minutes every PP and limited minutes on the third pairing at even strength. The biggest problem is that Smith blows. If the can get rid of him by packaging DeAngelo with him, call up Graves, that would be good. AV has always been a moron with his philosophy of puck moving defenseman. He would rather play clueless D guys that don't know where to go but can pass and skate, than play steady, smart, defensive defenseman.
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Location: AV is gone | The goal should be to try to get Trouba.....Our D is not that good and Shattenkirk is the worst of the bunch...I want Camp fire in there over Shatt |
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| Mikey Red - 2017-12-22 8:25 AM
The goal should be to try to get Trouba.....Our D is not that good and Shattenkirk is the worst of the bunch...I want Camp fire in there over Shatt
Camp fire lol, excellent. Right now Leaping Lou Fontinato would look good. |
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Location: Union Corruption | Mikey Red - 2017-12-22 11:25 AM
The goal should be to try to get Trouba.....Our D is not that good and Shattenkirk is the worst of the bunch...I want Camp fire in there over Shatt
Honest question for you....how many times have you actually seen Trouba play? You have been pining for him for a long time...is it based on what you have seen of him? Or is it because he's young and you think he wants out of Winnipeg? I've seen him play quite a bit this season, and he's been a slightly better version of Holden.
How come you don't still insist of us getting Duchene? |
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Location: AV is gone | Mandar - 2017-12-23 1:23 PM
Mikey Red - 2017-12-22 11:25 AM
The goal should be to try to get Trouba.....Our D is not that good and Shattenkirk is the worst of the bunch...I want Camp fire in there over Shatt
Honest question for you....how many times have you actually seen Trouba play? You have been pining for him for a long time...is it based on what you have seen of him? Or is it because he's young and you think he wants out of Winnipeg? I've seen him play quite a bit this season, and he's been a slightly better version of Holden.
How come you don't still insist of us getting Duchene?
Duchense has been dealt...he's out....I love Trouba...defensive D man with a mean streak compound that with all 6 of our D are soft and 4 of them are bottom pair guys...Winnipeg has alot of D men in their system, they are going to have to move someone |
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Location: Union Corruption | Mikey Red - 2017-12-23 6:13 PM
Mandar - 2017-12-23 1:23 PM
Mikey Red - 2017-12-22 11:25 AM
The goal should be to try to get Trouba.....Our D is not that good and Shattenkirk is the worst of the bunch...I want Camp fire in there over Shatt
Honest question for you....how many times have you actually seen Trouba play? You have been pining for him for a long time...is it based on what you have seen of him? Or is it because he's young and you think he wants out of Winnipeg? I've seen him play quite a bit this season, and he's been a slightly better version of Holden.
How come you don't still insist of us getting Duchene?
Duchense has been dealt...he's out....I love Trouba...defensive D man with a mean streak compound that with all 6 of our D are soft and 4 of them are bottom pair guys...Winnipeg has alot of D men in their system, they are going to have to move someone
You didn't answer the question....how many times have you seen Trouba play this year? Cause he certainly hasn't played like you think he does.
Duchene can be dealt again....why don't you want him anymore? |
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Location: AV is gone | Mandar - 2017-12-23 7:39 PM
Mikey Red - 2017-12-23 6:13 PM
Mandar - 2017-12-23 1:23 PM
Mikey Red - 2017-12-22 11:25 AM
The goal should be to try to get Trouba.....Our D is not that good and Shattenkirk is the worst of the bunch...I want Camp fire in there over Shatt
Honest question for you....how many times have you actually seen Trouba play? You have been pining for him for a long time...is it based on what you have seen of him? Or is it because he's young and you think he wants out of Winnipeg? I've seen him play quite a bit this season, and he's been a slightly better version of Holden.
How come you don't still insist of us getting Duchene?
Duchense has been dealt...he's out....I love Trouba...defensive D man with a mean streak compound that with all 6 of our D are soft and 4 of them are bottom pair guys...Winnipeg has alot of D men in their system, they are going to have to move someone
You didn't answer the question....how many times have you seen Trouba play this year? Cause he certainly hasn't played like you think he does.
Duchene can be dealt again....why don't you want him anymore?
I’d take Duchene no problem....he’s better than the slop we got down the middle now...I’ve seen a lil bit of Trouba not a lot ...he would be our 3rd best d man |
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Location: USA | itsmcilrathtime - 2017-12-22 9:43 AM
Shattenkirk should be playing the full 2 minutes every PP and limited minutes on the third pairing at even strength. The biggest problem is that Smith blows. If the can get rid of him by packaging DeAngelo with him, call up Graves, that would be good. AV has always been a moron with his philosophy of puck moving defenseman. He would rather play clueless D guys that don't know where to go but can pass and skate, than play steady, smart, defensive defenseman.
I actually agree with Dump on most of this, but putting Shattekirk on the third pair assumes you have 4 defensemen who are better than him. (We don't.)
If you can get a pick back for Smith and DeAngelo at the trade deadline, I'd do it. Too much emphasis is placed on "NHL names" like Smith, who has carved out an NHL career for himself, but the difference between a Smith and a Graves is really not that much, and Graves costs a hell of a lot less and is younger. I think this has been a weakness of the Rangers in the past, thinking that just because one guy played in the NHL for X number of years and a young guy hasn't, the NHL guy is that much better. Statistically, and on the ice, the difference between a Smith and Graves is not much. Smith isn't a great skater either.
The idea behind the pass/skating defensemen is that you can transition quicker and get out of your own zone quicker. I'd rather the puck leave the zone, without possession though, than have an "offensive" defensemen fail to prevent a shot on goal. |
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Game 35: New York Rangers @ New Jersey Devils 12/21/17 - 7pm - MSG
