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concust
Posted 2018-01-26 1:45 PM (#694681 - in reply to #693944)
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Well they're gonna try (according to Brooks)

The Blueshirts, we’re told, view the Feb. 26 trade deadline as a unique opportunity to refresh the roster and replenish the organization, regardless of where the club stands in relation to a playoff spot.

https://nypost.com/2018/01/26/mcdonagh-nash-zuccarello-rangers-are-r...

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Rranger
Posted 2018-01-26 2:00 PM (#694682 - in reply to #694676)
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concust - 2018-01-26 11:37 AM

Rranger - 2018-01-26 1:22 PM

No matter what method you use, tank or tear down you have to be good at it, and have some luck, 32 teams going for one trophy doesn’t allow for mistakes. There is no right way. Look at Anaheim’s cup, later first round picks Perry, and Getzlaf great trades Niedemairer and they won their cup.


I agree there's no single right way, but looking at a list of winners recently the bulk of them have all followed the draft-high and build blueprint so I'll say that's the most likely path of success. Boston in 2011 did not have multiple top draft picks as their core either, they built a lot around good second round picks, a couple good UFAs, and Tim Thomas playing out of his mind. They did have Seguin and Wheeler, both top 3 picks, on the team though.









Wheeler did not play on the cup winner and Sequin was a rookie with minimal impact and it’s a futile exercise to go through the cup winners dissecting their build. We agree, no sure fire best way. And I’m not arguing a team like Chicago had it’s success as a result of the draft
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Rranger
Posted 2018-01-26 2:34 PM (#694683 - in reply to #694678)
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Mjolnir - 2018-01-26 12:05 PM

The common theme amongst all those teams is that they knew what system they wanted, drafted the players they needed for that system AND trained their youth accordingly.....when there was an injury or an open slot, they were able to seamlessly promote someone to step in without any problems because they knew what they had and what that player could do.

Rangers have never done that.....




The Rangers drafted a particular player Lias Andersson, because he was supposedly ready to play, so they went outside the box, drafting a player they needed and wanted. Not the best available at the time. It was well discussed at the draft.


His “”Elite Prospect Writeup””
“”Andersson is an excellent team player. Never takes a shift off. Also blessed with good hockey sense and plays a strong two-way game. Offensively, Andersson stands out with impressive puck skills, a good shot and fine speed. Has the tools to become a scoring line player, but could also become an excellent role player who always gives 100%. (EP 2017)””

His 2017 Draft rankings before being drafted 7th overall

“” 2017 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #12 by Hockeyprospect.com
- 2017 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #25 by ISS Hockey
- 2017 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #13 by Future Considerations
- 2017 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #17 by McKeen's Hockey
- 2017 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #3 by NHL Central Scouting (EU Skaters)
- 2017 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #13 by TSN/McKenzie””

The Rangers picked this player specifically to suit their needs.


Buffalo with the next pick took Casey Middlestadt.


“”An electric offensive presence on the ice, Casey Mittelstadt brings the complete package of speed, skill, and hockey sense. He competes hard with every shift, and has the dynamic puck skills to keep up with his creativity, which is a hallmark of his game. His awareness is all-encompassing, and he never puts his teammates in positions where their time and space will be bottlenecked. Bigger players don't phase him, as he thinks the game analytically and will find chinks in the opposition's armor on the fly. As a result, Mittelstadt is often seen forcing more complicated plays that the opposition won't be able to read in time. On top of all this, he can play a north-south game, and his transition game is already at an elite level. He's a complete player with the predatory instincts necessary to succeed as a consistent and, perhaps, dominant point producer at the next level. (C”””


His draft rankings before being drafted 8th overall.


- 2017 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #8 by Hockeyprospect.com
- 2017 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #7 by ISS Hockey
- 2017 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #5 by Future Considerations
- 2017 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #5 by McKeen's Hockey
- 2017 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #3 by NHL Central Scouting (NA Skaters)
- 2017 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #6 by TSN/McKenzie



So the Rangers drafted a player rated a lot lower than Buffalo’s Middlestadt for their reasons, probably along the lines of your post fit their system, maybe most ready who really knows.

This to me has been Gorton signature move so far, and Middlestadt has a few more offensive gears to make this look really bad for him, and maybe have him wishing he’d taken the best available player and not best fit. But you never know maybe the Rangers did it right. The thing about the draft is we will all know sooner than later.





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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-01-26 2:44 PM (#694685 - in reply to #694681)
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concust - 2018-01-26 3:45 PM

Well they're gonna try (according to Brooks)

The Blueshirts, we’re told, view the Feb. 26 trade deadline as a unique opportunity to refresh the roster and replenish the organization, regardless of where the club stands in relation to a playoff spot.

https://nypost.com/2018/01/26/mcdonagh-nash-zuccarello-rangers-are-r...


I hope its 1000% true
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Blue404
Posted 2018-01-26 2:47 PM (#694686 - in reply to #693944)
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Ok so far we have trades ,Nash,Zuc,MCD,Henke30,Grabner,
Only unknown is what we got in return for those players...Oh I know,we got long this faking thread.
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Blue404
Posted 2018-01-26 2:54 PM (#694687 - in reply to #693944)
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If Larry Brooks is right and Rangers actually do that what he wrote in his article we would be in a good shape to start quick rebuilding process.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-01-26 3:07 PM (#694690 - in reply to #694687)
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Blue404 - 2018-01-26 4:54 PM

If Larry Brooks is right and Rangers actually do that what he wrote in his article we would be in a good shape to start quick rebuilding process.

Yes indeed!
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2018-01-26 3:18 PM (#694691 - in reply to #693944)
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KABOOOOM!!

Won't mean a thing if AV is still here. He's the one that needs to be blown up
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Rranger
Posted 2018-01-26 3:19 PM (#694692 - in reply to #694691)
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Rangerjunkie - 2018-01-26 2:18 PM

KABOOOOM!!

Won't mean a thing if AV is still here. He's the one that needs to be blown up





Lmao off I got a match.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-01-26 3:22 PM (#694693 - in reply to #693944)
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Steady Eddie
Posted 2018-01-26 4:56 PM (#694694 - in reply to #693944)
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TANK! It’s about freakin time! Build around Skjei, Buch, Anderson, Chytil, Hayes, Miller, Zibanejad, and for f**ks sake, get us a #1 Center! A top pair dman too, and sign Shestorkin.
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Posted 2018-01-26 4:57 PM (#694695 - in reply to #694694)
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Steady Eddie - 2018-01-26 4:56 PM

TANK! It’s about freakin time! Build around Skjei, Buch, Anderson, Chytil, Hayes, Miller, Zibanejad, and for f**ks sake, get us a #1 Center! A top pair dman too, and sign Shestorkin.


You forgot to mention firing AV
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2018-01-26 4:58 PM (#694696 - in reply to #694695)
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Rangerjunkie - 2018-01-26 4:57 PM

Steady Eddie - 2018-01-26 4:56 PM

TANK! It’s about freakin time! Build around Skjei, Buch, Anderson, Chytil, Hayes, Miller, Zibanejad, and for f**ks sake, get us a #1 Center! A top pair dman too, and sign Shestorkin.


You forgot to mention firing AV


And Vesey
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Steady Eddie
Posted 2018-01-26 4:59 PM (#694697 - in reply to #694693)
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Blow it up!
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Steady Eddie
Posted 2018-01-26 5:01 PM (#694698 - in reply to #694696)
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Rangerjunkie - 2018-01-26 6:58 PM

Rangerjunkie - 2018-01-26 4:57 PM

Steady Eddie - 2018-01-26 4:56 PM

TANK! It’s about freakin time! Build around Skjei, Buch, Anderson, Chytil, Hayes, Miller, Zibanejad, and for f**ks sake, get us a #1 Center! A top pair dman too, and sign Shestorkin.


You forgot to mention firing AV


And Vesey


Yes. Agree on both points. Missed on initial post. It was that 20oz IPA with dinner.
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Blue404
Posted 2018-01-26 5:52 PM (#694700 - in reply to #694694)
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Steady Eddie - 2018-01-26 6:56 PM

TANK! It’s about freakin time! Build around Skjei, Buch, Anderson, Chytil, Hayes, Miller, Zibanejad, and for f**ks sake, get us a #1 Center! A top pair dman too, and sign Shestorkin.
Only if Shestorkin signs a clause that if he doesn't like the apples here he won't run back to Russia.
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2018-01-26 6:20 PM (#694704 - in reply to #694698)
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Steady Eddie - 2018-01-26 5:01 PM

Rangerjunkie - 2018-01-26 6:58 PM

Rangerjunkie - 2018-01-26 4:57 PM

Steady Eddie - 2018-01-26 4:56 PM

TANK! It’s about freakin time! Build around Skjei, Buch, Anderson, Chytil, Hayes, Miller, Zibanejad, and for f**ks sake, get us a #1 Center! A top pair dman too, and sign Shestorkin.


You forgot to mention firing AV


And Vesey


Yes. Agree on both points. Missed on initial post. It was that 20oz IPA with dinner.


Hahahaha
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Rranger
Posted 2018-01-27 12:29 PM (#694711 - in reply to #694685)
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Mikey Red - 2018-01-26 1:44 PM

concust - 2018-01-26 3:45 PM

Well they're gonna try (according to Brooks)

The Blueshirts, we’re told, view the Feb. 26 trade deadline as a unique opportunity to refresh the roster and replenish the organization, regardless of where the club stands in relation to a playoff spot.

https://nypost.com/2018/01/26/mcdonagh-nash-zuccarello-rangers-are-r...


I hope its 1000% true




If the Rangers are already putting the league on notice they are dumping, it might also get Lundqvist to have a chat with his agent, and if his fire for a cup runs deep enough, a request for a trade to a contender. St. Louis is reportedly chasing Price, if that falls through maybe Henriks intrigued about there. He’s never had the luxury of playing behind a real strong team where he didn’t have to stand on his head to win. Put him in the right situation and I have no doubt he would be a difference maker.

Edited by Rranger 2018-01-27 1:14 PM
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-01-27 1:38 PM (#694712 - in reply to #694711)
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Rranger - 2018-01-27 2:29 PM

Mikey Red - 2018-01-26 1:44 PM

concust - 2018-01-26 3:45 PM

Well they're gonna try (according to Brooks)

The Blueshirts, we’re told, view the Feb. 26 trade deadline as a unique opportunity to refresh the roster and replenish the organization, regardless of where the club stands in relation to a playoff spot.

https://nypost.com/2018/01/26/mcdonagh-nash-zuccarello-rangers-are-r...


I hope its 1000% true




If the Rangers are already putting the league on notice they are dumping, it might also get Lundqvist to have a chat with his agent, and if his fire for a cup runs deep enough, a request for a trade to a contender. St. Louis is reportedly chasing Price, if that falls through maybe Henriks intrigued about there. He’s never had the luxury of playing behind a real strong team where he didn’t have to stand on his head to win. Put him in the right situation and I have no doubt he would be a difference maker.

I hope that happens!
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Posted 2018-01-27 2:10 PM (#694713 - in reply to #694712)
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All the talk about trading Nash, Grabner, Zucc, etc. - where is the scoring going to come from? Trading Mac, Holden, Smith, etc. guarantees a worse defense then at present. And why should Henrik hang around, playing for an AHL team. Make no mistake, they are NOT going to get NHL players in return.

I'm not against trading one or two players, but be realistic.
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Posted 2018-01-27 2:25 PM (#694718 - in reply to #694713)
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NTHockey - 2018-01-27 1:10 PM

All the talk about trading Nash, Grabner, Zucc, etc. - where is the scoring going to come from? Trading Mac, Holden, Smith, etc. guarantees a worse defense then at present. And why should Henrik hang around, playing for an AHL team. Make no mistake, they are NOT going to get NHL players in return.

I'm not against trading one or two players, but be realistic.





I think they know they will be taking a step back. They either overpay to keep Nash or Grabner or trade them. If they get to free agency this summer and their agents will make sure they do, then the money will likely get stupid for both. It’s not like their winning anything keeping them. McDonagh and Zuccarello both offer a new team a couple of descent free years and their value will probably never be higher.
If the Rangers are trading Nash and Grabner and they will, then they may as well tear down the whole thing. Lundqvist, McDonagh, Zucc, Desharnais, Holden, Fast, and for that matter Shattenkirk. Some of whom Zucc, McD, and Shattenkirk this summer. And then hire a decent coach.
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Posted 2018-01-27 2:47 PM (#694719 - in reply to #693944)
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It's not like trading Nash Grabner or anyone else is going to yield a bag of pucks.

Even if the idea is to get draft picks and prospects, those kids become your next roster players.

Maybe they can draft one of the big names.... Tkachyuk.... Zadina.... Dahlin... Svechnikov, or who knows who?

Maybe they CAN get back a William Nylander in one of these deals...
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Andy Bathgate
Posted 2018-01-27 2:54 PM (#694720 - in reply to #694713)
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NTHockey - 2018-01-27 4:10 PM

All the talk about trading Nash, Grabner, Zucc, etc. - where is the scoring going to come from? Trading Mac, Holden, Smith, etc. guarantees a worse defense then at present. And why should Henrik hang around, playing for an AHL team. Make no mistake, they are NOT going to get NHL players in return.

I'm not against trading one or two players, but be realistic.


Agreed... I won't believe the Rangers are tearing down this team for picks and pucks until I see it... they never have before. As long as they're playoff hopes, they will make very little moves for the future.... probably screw it up worse.

We're talking about the Rangers, the team that didn't fire AV after that Ottawa series.





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Posted 2018-01-27 3:03 PM (#694721 - in reply to #693944)
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I hope this happens. If they are smart they can rebuild in 1 or 2 years and have a very solid core of guys going forward. If i'm trading Nash, Mac and Zuc I think a reasonable haul at the end of the day is:

Nash - 1st round pick + 2nd line NHL prospect or 2nd round pick and a 3-4 NHL D man. I think its reasonable considered his contract and decrease in offensive output at his age.

Zuc - 1st round pick + a top 6 forward prospect + 3-4 prospect D man or multiple picks + a top 9 forward?

Mac - 1st round pick + top 2 or 3 prospect in the teams system regardless of forward / D plus another decent prospect. He is the real deal, we all know it and teams who are going on a run who get him would instantly get better.

other guys like Grabner i'd consider trading but I doubt he brings back anything major.

I hope they sell. I'd love for them to be like the Yankees in 2 years. Back in the playoffs and in the hunt as a serious contender.
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Posted 2018-01-27 3:09 PM (#694722 - in reply to #694718)
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Rranger - 2018-01-27 4:25 PM

NTHockey - 2018-01-27 1:10 PM

All the talk about trading Nash, Grabner, Zucc, etc. - where is the scoring going to come from? Trading Mac, Holden, Smith, etc. guarantees a worse defense then at present. And why should Henrik hang around, playing for an AHL team. Make no mistake, they are NOT going to get NHL players in return.

I'm not against trading one or two players, but be realistic.





I think they know they will be taking a step back. They either overpay to keep Nash or Grabner or trade them. If they get to free agency this summer and their agents will make sure they do, then the money will likely get stupid for both. It’s not like their winning anything keeping them. McDonagh and Zuccarello both offer a new team a couple of descent free years and their value will probably never be higher.
If the Rangers are trading Nash and Grabner and they will, then they may as well tear down the whole thing. Lundqvist, McDonagh, Zucc, Desharnais, Holden, Fast, and for that matter Shattenkirk. Some of whom Zucc, McD, and Shattenkirk this summer. And then hire a decent coach.


The Rangers taking a step back? Has that ever happened?

I think somewhere there's a duel universe where the Rangers historically are run and managed correctly... not in ours.


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Posted 2018-01-27 3:25 PM (#694723 - in reply to #694713)
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NTHockey - 2018-01-27 4:10 PM

All the talk about trading Nash, Grabner, Zucc, etc. - where is the scoring going to come from? Trading Mac, Holden, Smith, etc. guarantees a worse defense then at present. And why should Henrik hang around, playing for an AHL team. Make no mistake, they are NOT going to get NHL players in return.

I'm not against trading one or two players, but be realistic.

Who cares....we aren't winning the SC this year anyway.....you ABSOLUTELY have to trade MacDonagh...you cannot give him a max type contract at 30 years old when he already has a million miles on him.....We are the Cowboys with Herscel Walker right now
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Posted 2018-01-27 3:25 PM (#694724 - in reply to #694722)
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Andy Bathgate - 2018-01-27 2:09 PM

Rranger - 2018-01-27 4:25 PM

NTHockey - 2018-01-27 1:10 PM

All the talk about trading Nash, Grabner, Zucc, etc. - where is the scoring going to come from? Trading Mac, Holden, Smith, etc. guarantees a worse defense then at present. And why should Henrik hang around, playing for an AHL team. Make no mistake, they are NOT going to get NHL players in return.

I'm not against trading one or two players, but be realistic.





I think they know they will be taking a step back. They either overpay to keep Nash or Grabner or trade them. If they get to free agency this summer and their agents will make sure they do, then the money will likely get stupid for both. It’s not like their winning anything keeping them. McDonagh and Zuccarello both offer a new team a couple of descent free years and their value will probably never be higher.
If the Rangers are trading Nash and Grabner and they will, then they may as well tear down the whole thing. Lundqvist, McDonagh, Zucc, Desharnais, Holden, Fast, and for that matter Shattenkirk. Some of whom Zucc, McD, and Shattenkirk this summer. And then hire a decent coach.


The Rangers taking a step back? Has that ever happened?

I think somewhere there's a duel universe where the Rangers historically are run and managed correctly... not in ours.






We can hope.
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Posted 2018-01-27 6:48 PM (#694725 - in reply to #693944)
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The Rangers have "taken a step back" every year since AV has been here........
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Posted 2018-01-28 3:17 AM (#694726 - in reply to #693944)
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If you don't think Grabner would bring back anything major you are foolish. He might actually have more value than Nash to some teams because he costs nothing and his low salary would enable another team to add a second piece at the deadline. I have no faith in Gorton though. Other than dumping that dog Stepan, his deals have been atrocious. He usually ends up giving away players for nothing compared to what other teams get. Let's face it. The guy sucks as a GM. AV pretty much sucks now as a coach.
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Posted 2018-01-28 3:17 AM (#694727 - in reply to #693944)
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Only Gorton will find a way to screw up trading McDonagh with the return he gets.

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Posted 2018-01-28 11:53 AM (#694729 - in reply to #693944)
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Been checking out the draft class, and I like Bode Wilde. Big right handed defenseman with all the tools.
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Posted 2018-01-28 3:45 PM (#694730 - in reply to #694726)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2018-01-28 3:17 AM

If you don't think Grabner would bring back anything major you are foolish. He might actually have more value than Nash to some teams because he costs nothing and his low salary would enable another team to add a second piece at the deadline. I have no faith in Gorton though. Other than dumping that dog Stepan, his deals have been atrocious. He usually ends up giving away players for nothing compared to what other teams get. Let's face it. The guy sucks as a GM. AV pretty much sucks now as a coach.


You don't like the Zib for Brassard trade?

Or the buying out of Girardi?
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Posted 2018-01-29 4:46 AM (#694735 - in reply to #693944)
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What the Rangers might be able to get for Michael Grabner
Jan 28 | 12:11PM
Larry Brooks writes that if the Rangers trade Michael Grabner the return could potentially be a first round pick or young roster player. (NY Post)

Brooks also notes that Grabner could potentially be re-signed in the offseason.
•He also notes that both Nick Holden and David Desharnais might be able to bring back returns of mid-round draft picks. (NY Post)

Grabner has 21 goals this season after scoring 27 last season.

Adam Rotter: Speed is the one thing that everyone is looking for and speed, more than anything else, is what Grabner has. He has the ability to score and score big goals, as he has shown the past two years but his ability to go from defense/PK to offense and create off the rush is what will really make him attractive on the market. If the Rangers could land a first round pick for Grabner then it would be outstanding though I wonder if either multiple second round picks or a second and a prospect is a more likely return. I'm sure there will be a lot of interest in Grabner and that could help the Rangers get a good return.


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Posted 2018-01-29 7:03 AM (#694736 - in reply to #694711)
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Rranger - 2018-01-27 2:29 PM

Mikey Red - 2018-01-26 1:44 PM

concust - 2018-01-26 3:45 PM

Well they're gonna try (according to Brooks)

The Blueshirts, we’re told, view the Feb. 26 trade deadline as a unique opportunity to refresh the roster and replenish the organization, regardless of where the club stands in relation to a playoff spot.

https://nypost.com/2018/01/26/mcdonagh-nash-zuccarello-rangers-are-r...


I hope its 1000% true




If the Rangers are already putting the league on notice they are dumping, it might also get Lundqvist to have a chat with his agent, and if his fire for a cup runs deep enough, a request for a trade to a contender. St. Louis is reportedly chasing Price, if that falls through maybe Henriks intrigued about there. He’s never had the luxury of playing behind a real strong team where he didn’t have to stand on his head to win. Put him in the right situation and I have no doubt he would be a difference maker.


Blues have never been known for their defense either.
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Posted 2018-01-29 9:13 AM (#694740 - in reply to #694736)
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concust - 2018-01-26 3:45 PM

Well they're gonna try (according to Brooks)

The Blueshirts, we’re told, view the Feb. 26 trade deadline as a unique opportunity to refresh the roster and replenish the organization, regardless of where the club stands in relation to a playoff spot.

https://nypost.com/2018/01/26/mcdonagh-nash-zuccarello-rangers-are-r...


I hope its 1000% true




If the Rangers are already putting the league on notice they are dumping, it might also get Lundqvist to have a chat with his agent, and if his fire for a cup runs deep enough, a request for a trade to a contender. St. Louis is reportedly chasing Price, if that falls through maybe Henriks intrigued about there. He’s never had the luxury of playing behind a real strong team where he didn’t have to stand on his head to win. Put him in the right situation and I have no doubt he would be a difference maker.


Blues have never been known for their defense either.




Their doing something right tied for the sixth least goals against total, and the fifth best Goals against average in the entire league. It's more the quality of goals against, than quantity. Allen has struggled.

Edited by Rranger 2018-01-29 9:36 AM
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