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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-03-12 7:43 PM (#700521 - in reply to #700519)
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This coach will take us to a promise land!
If he is signed for the next 3 years we will pick every year high in the draft!Guaranteed.

Mariners Harbor?
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Posted 2018-03-12 7:43 PM (#700522 - in reply to #700518)
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Mikey Red - 2018-03-12 9:41 PM

I hate the FIOS kid now

It’s too much.
Th other dude as well.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-03-12 7:43 PM (#700523 - in reply to #700520)
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Rangerjunkie - 2018-03-12 9:42 PM

I want them to win, they lose

Want them to lose, they win

Being a Ranger fan is a hard life...lots of pain and dark days
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-03-12 7:44 PM (#700524 - in reply to #700522)
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Blue404 - 2018-03-12 9:43 PM

Mikey Red - 2018-03-12 9:41 PM

I hate the FIOS kid now

It’s too much.
Th other dude as well.

Absolutely
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-03-12 7:45 PM (#700525 - in reply to #700364)
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Posted 2018-03-12 7:51 PM (#700526 - in reply to #700525)
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Mikey Red - 2018-03-12 9:45 PM

Chris Osgood has 401 wins

God bless him.
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Posted 2018-03-12 7:52 PM (#700527 - in reply to #700521)
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Mikey Red - 2018-03-12 9:43 PM

Blue404 - 2018-03-12 9:42 PM

This coach will take us to a promise land!
If he is signed for the next 3 years we will pick every year high in the draft!Guaranteed.

Mariners Harbor?
Stapleton
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-03-12 7:55 PM (#700528 - in reply to #700527)
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Mikey Red - 2018-03-12 9:43 PM

Blue404 - 2018-03-12 9:42 PM

This coach will take us to a promise land!
If he is signed for the next 3 years we will pick every year high in the draft!Guaranteed.

Mariners Harbor?
Stapleton

LOL Hahahaha
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Posted 2018-03-12 8:16 PM (#700529 - in reply to #700364)
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Posted 2018-03-12 8:17 PM (#700530 - in reply to #700364)
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-03-13 8:20 AM (#700531 - in reply to #700530)
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Our best hope is for Chicago and Edmonton to pass us and we finish 7th....Good for Zuc and Vesey last nite...build that trade value
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Posted 2018-03-13 8:42 AM (#700532 - in reply to #700364)
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Why would you trade Vesey when you just dealt Miller. It makes no sense. If the gum chewing, asswipe would put him on the PP he would do a lot better. He's got great size and good hands down low. So of course AV put Miller on the PP all the time who never shoots and is dumb.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-03-13 9:00 AM (#700533 - in reply to #700364)
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Vesey is all hype so far...If we keep him fine...he is a 3rd liner and will already be 25 in May...but if we can package him...thats ok too...3rd liners can be found all over the place
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Posted 2018-03-13 11:26 AM (#700535 - in reply to #700533)
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Mikey Red - 2018-03-13 11:00 AM

Vesey is all hype so far...If we keep him fine...he is a 3rd liner and will already be 25 in May...but if we can package him...thats ok too...3rd liners can be found all over the place


He does play with anger every time he is out there, something missing from the Rangers line up. He might be another victim of AV.
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Posted 2018-03-13 11:26 AM (#700536 - in reply to #700364)
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Still marching on to the play-offs. Too many positives to list about this latest victory. Happy for the much maligned J. V. #36 as well. How about this latest goaltender?

Go Rangers!


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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-03-13 11:46 AM (#700537 - in reply to #700536)
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naf regnar - 2018-03-13 1:26 PM

Still marching on to the play-offs. Too many positives to list about this latest victory. Happy for the much maligned J. V. #36 as well. How about this latest goaltender?

Go Rangers!



Bite your tongue! We are trying to make the non playoffs playoffs
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-03-13 11:47 AM (#700538 - in reply to #700535)
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Mikey Red - 2018-03-13 11:00 AM

Vesey is all hype so far...If we keep him fine...he is a 3rd liner and will already be 25 in May...but if we can package him...thats ok too...3rd liners can be found all over the place


He does play with anger every time he is out there, something missing from the Rangers line up. He might be another victim of AV.

Lets hope thats it....but he seems to get alot of ice time and last year he was with Nash etc.. on top line or 2
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-03-13 11:50 AM (#700539 - in reply to #700364)
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And he said last nite it took him til Senior year at Harvard to get his 1st hat trick...He is also originally a 3rd round pick
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Posted 2018-03-13 11:51 AM (#700540 - in reply to #700535)
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Mikey Red - 2018-03-13 11:00 AM

Vesey is all hype so far...If we keep him fine...he is a 3rd liner and will already be 25 in May...but if we can package him...thats ok too...3rd liners can be found all over the place


He does play with anger every time he is out there, something missing from the Rangers line up. He might be another victim of AV.


To me he plays well when he's angry, but doesn't seem to play with that anger very consistently (Always though Miller did better when he was angry too). It seems to me that Vesey is mostly a calm player, and when he plays like that, he's relatively ineffective for the most part.

I know +/- is a poor stat to use in isolation, but Vesey's does stand out on the team. He's a career -32 in his first 2 years as a pro, and that's good enough to be in the bottom 12 of all-time Rangers since the stat was added in the mid 1960s. He's actually been a plus player in the last 2-3 games, which has improved it about 3 points, but it's still remarkable given that he's far outpaced his linemates in this area.
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Posted 2018-03-13 12:02 PM (#700541 - in reply to #700364)
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This is from when we signed him in 2016.

concust - 2016-08-24 3:41 PM

Expectations are going to be too high for Vesey. Especially after all the hype. I'm all for the signing but he's not a top 6 winger in his rookie year, if ever. If the Rangers play it smart they have a good two-way top 6 with a good mix of talent -

Kreider Stepan Nash
Miller Zibanejad Zucc

Then a third line that can play sheltered minutes and has some offensive punch,

Vesey Hayes Buchnevich

And a fourth line to eat minutes and do fourth line stuff

Lindberg (IR) /Fast/Grabner/Jooris

With scratches/injury callups, Gerbe, Hrivik, Glass

Not terrible. It's the defense that has me concerned.


concust - 2016-08-24 3:46 PM

If Vesey hits 35 points this year he will have far exceeded my expectations.


To which Mandar replied,

Mandar - 2016-08-25 8:26 AM


This is silly. "Far" exceeded your expectations? With the offense he is supposed to bring, and the icetime he is supposed to get.....35 is "far" exceeding your expectations? Then what are you expecting? 20 points? and that is what you are expecting?

Hayes got 45 points in his rookie year....same hype. I don't see why we would "expect" so much less from Vesey.


Vesey scored 27 points in 80 games.

He was a good player on a decent team but the hype that surrounded him made expectations soar. If you're disappointed you have only yourself to blame. Trust me, if he was talented enough to be a top-6 player in the NHL, two years into his tenure, he would have scored 80 points a year at Harvard. He was a third round pick, is a decent bottom 6 player who can occasionally score - that's all he was ever really going to be.


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Posted 2018-03-13 12:06 PM (#700542 - in reply to #700364)
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Rangers recalled Sproul. Based on the look of the injury DeAngelo will probably be out a long time.

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Posted 2018-03-13 12:07 PM (#700543 - in reply to #700364)
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Separately Shattenkirk suffered a "setback" so he's not close to returning either.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-03-13 1:21 PM (#700544 - in reply to #700542)
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concust - 2018-03-13 2:06 PM

Rangers recalled Sproul. Based on the look of the injury DeAngelo will probably be out a long time.


Hmmm...I guess Bigras sucks
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Posted 2018-03-13 2:21 PM (#700546 - in reply to #700364)
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Vesey was never suppose to be more than a 3rd line guy... He's doing exactly what they brought him here to do
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Posted 2018-03-13 2:23 PM (#700547 - in reply to #700543)
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concust - 2018-03-13 12:07 PM

Separately Shattenkirk suffered a "setback" so he's not close to returning either.


CRAP!!!!!

We need him for the TANK!!
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-03-13 2:24 PM (#700548 - in reply to #700546)
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robstones - 2018-03-13 4:21 PM

Vesey was never suppose to be more than a 3rd line guy... He's doing exactly what they brought him here to do

With the hype surrounding getting him....you would of thought we signed Mario Lemieux
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Posted 2018-03-13 2:25 PM (#700549 - in reply to #700546)
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Vesey was never suppose to be more than a 3rd line guy... He's doing exactly what they brought him here to do


I don't know........

There was a large list of teams hoping for him to sign with them
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-03-13 2:26 PM (#700550 - in reply to #700364)
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Vesey has 12 games left to show hes the real deal
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Posted 2018-03-13 3:08 PM (#700551 - in reply to #700549)
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robstones - 2018-03-13 2:21 PM

Vesey was never suppose to be more than a 3rd line guy... He's doing exactly what they brought him here to do


I don't know........

There was a large list of teams hoping for him to sign with them


Yeah when you can add a young guy who can play in the NHL, why wouldn't multiple teams want him. Just because there was a bidding war doesn't make him a 60 point player. He was attractive because he's young, has some upside, cost zero assets, and is cost controlled.

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Posted 2018-03-13 3:34 PM (#700552 - in reply to #700364)
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Posted 2018-03-13 4:57 PM (#700554 - in reply to #700551)
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robstones - 2018-03-13 2:21 PM

Vesey was never suppose to be more than a 3rd line guy... He's doing exactly what they brought him here to do


I don't know........

There was a large list of teams hoping for him to sign with them


Yeah when you can add a young guy who can play in the NHL, why wouldn't multiple teams want him. Just because there was a bidding war doesn't make him a 60 point player. He was attractive because he's young, has some upside, cost zero assets, and is cost controlled.



Yeah I'm not expecting him to be a 60 point guy. The Rangers don't have a 60 point guy on their entire roster!!

I do think he can be a 25 goal guy though. With a coach who knows how to coach and puts players in position to excel. Not a coach who bounces kids around from 2nd to 4th to 1st to 3rd every other game.
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Posted 2018-03-13 5:32 PM (#700555 - in reply to #700364)
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Posted 2018-03-13 5:42 PM (#700556 - in reply to #700364)
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Posted 2018-03-13 7:15 PM (#700557 - in reply to #700364)
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Posted 2018-03-13 7:18 PM (#700558 - in reply to #700549)
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robstones - 2018-03-13 2:21 PM

Vesey was never suppose to be more than a 3rd line guy... He's doing exactly what they brought him here to do


I don't know........

There was a large list of teams hoping for him to sign with them


Yeah, I mean... he's a good cheap NHL forward. Kid just scored a hat trick last night! Did you SEE that second goal??

He has skills. Not consistently enough for top 6, but he's good for anybody's 3rd line
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