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NTHockey
Posted 2018-04-07 6:47 PM (#702887)
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What's your guess about the Rangers chances in the lottery
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-07 8:35 PM (#702890 - in reply to #702887)
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We will do good...trade and or top 3
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Posted 2018-04-07 9:25 PM (#702892 - in reply to #702887)
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They can't pick higher than 11th if they finish 8th. And the only way they pick lower, is if they win a lotto spot of 1st 2nd or 3rd overall.... there is no moving up to 6th via lottery. It doesn't work that way
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Posted 2018-04-07 9:41 PM (#702899 - in reply to #702887)
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Yep...Its lotto lucky top 3 or bust
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Posted 2018-04-19 4:22 PM (#703337 - in reply to #702887)
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Odds are that they won't move, so I'll go with that
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Posted 2018-04-19 5:24 PM (#703338 - in reply to #702887)
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What matters is who they draft, you need some exceptional top end talent to win a cup. Right now the Rangers have nobody you could say is even above average. That includes Lundqvist who’s days of 70 games a year are done. A lot is riding on Lindgren, Hajek, Howden and this years draft. They need some luck for sure in the lottery.
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Posted 2018-04-19 7:19 PM (#703341 - in reply to #702887)
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Most players projected to go in the top 10 seem to be legit. If we get Wahlstrom at 8.... Some say Boqvist could fall there.... Farabee is good. I'd really like to be able to draft Zadina and Martin Kaut for Chytil to have czechmates.... then maybe Datel will post more often
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Posted 2018-04-20 8:40 AM (#703346 - in reply to #702887)
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for once luck will shine on the NYRs .... Dahlin start packing a bag.....
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Posted 2018-04-20 9:32 AM (#703347 - in reply to #703346)
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Wahlstrom and Jack Hughes were all over the ice Yesterday
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Posted 2018-04-28 5:46 PM (#703514 - in reply to #702887)
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Rangers move down, will pick #9.
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Posted 2018-04-28 6:08 PM (#703516 - in reply to #702887)
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No real change for us. By far the "best odds" were we'd stay the same at 8/9, and we got 9. Now we'll see if we look to deal a couple of picks/RFA's to move into the top 5.

Only team that really jumped right now is Carolina. They went from 11 to top 3. Montreal was 4. Buffalo was # 1 going in. I really hope Buffalo wins it. Carolina only jumps to 3. Montreal gets 2. That's what I hope for. I rather not have Carolina get Dahlen.


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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-28 6:21 PM (#703518 - in reply to #702887)
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Trade it....Winnipeg doesnt have a 1st....Trouba please
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Posted 2018-04-28 6:41 PM (#703520 - in reply to #702887)
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But, but.....people were rooting hard for them to lose...tanking gets a better draft pick.

Every time we scored, some got pissed off badly...and some were really happy when we got scored on. I mean, people who consider themselves diehard fans were so happy when we lost...so happy when we gave up goals. Cause draft picks....moar and moar draft picks....all the draft picks.

Wait...now that we don't have a better draft position, we should trade the draft pick...trade draft picks? Seems to be expert analysis any way the wind blows.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-28 6:49 PM (#703525 - in reply to #703520)
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Mandar - 2018-04-28 8:41 PM

But, but.....people were rooting hard for them to lose...tanking gets a better draft pick.

Every time we scored, some got pissed off badly...and some were really happy when we got scored on. I mean, people who consider themselves diehard fans were so happy when we lost...so happy when we gave up goals. Cause draft picks....moar and moar draft picks....all the draft picks.

Wait...now that we don't have a better draft position, we should trade the draft pick...trade draft picks? Seems to be expert analysis any way the wind blows.

But we will be 8th in Rds 2-7
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-28 6:56 PM (#703526 - in reply to #702887)
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Some boards have Brady Tkachuk still there at 9....I would love that
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Posted 2018-04-28 7:49 PM (#703527 - in reply to #703526)
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And why isn't the Lotto drawing live?
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Posted 2018-04-28 8:29 PM (#703529 - in reply to #702887)
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habs get le hose....

The last time the Rangers got the 1st over all pick was>?????


1965

And they picked

André Veilleux He never played a single minute in the NHL

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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-29 8:43 AM (#703531 - in reply to #702887)
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Its going to be a wild lead up to the draft....No way in Hell Gorton is standing pat with the 3 #1's ....the 1's...Zuc, Kreider , Maybe Names...Vesey all in play
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-29 10:04 AM (#703532 - in reply to #702887)
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Somebody please fix the site....its very broken
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Posted 2018-04-29 3:49 PM (#703536 - in reply to #702887)
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Posted 2018-04-29 6:49 PM (#703538 - in reply to #702887)
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Trading up to #2 with Carolina or to #5 with Arizona seems feasable

Otherwise just taking what we have is fine. By all accounts, Noah Dobson is going to be a solid top pair guy one day. RHD are hard to come by. Whalstrom may be available (doubt it), or someone else falls. All it takes is a team drafting for position need rather than best available.... covet a center like Barrett Hayton over a defenseman.... all the sudden Rangers are drafting Boqvist at #9.... or whatever.

Either way Gorton seem keen on moving up. 2 top 10 picks would be my goal, but they'd probably have to include their #9 in the package for a top 5
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Posted 2018-04-30 7:20 AM (#703540 - in reply to #703520)
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Mandar - 2018-04-28 6:41 PM

But, but.....people were rooting hard for them to lose...tanking gets a better draft pick.

Every time we scored, some got pissed off badly...and some were really happy when we got scored on. I mean, people who consider themselves diehard fans were so happy when we lost...so happy when we gave up goals. Cause draft picks....moar and moar draft picks....all the draft picks.

Wait...now that we don't have a better draft position, we should trade the draft pick...trade draft picks? Seems to be expert analysis any way the wind blows.


Losing also helped us getting rid of AV...

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concust
Posted 2018-04-30 7:53 AM (#703541 - in reply to #703538)
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robstones - 2018-04-29 7:49 PM

Trading up to #2 with Carolina or to #5 with Arizona seems feasable



Ummm how? I'd say the top 4 picks are borderline untouchable. 5-6 might be a reach but we'd have to give up a lot. Remember teams that are rebuilding want the same things that the Rangers want, so it's not a good trade for them if it's a good trade for us.

At #9 I'd consider moving down a couple of spots depending on the return. The difference between 8-13/14 is not that great, so if it can net us another useful asset then I'd consider it. Regardless it's a top 10 pick so it'll be a good one either way. More likely than not a very good player will fall to 9, but it's unlikely that one of the top guys will fall that far.

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Posted 2018-04-30 8:00 AM (#703542 - in reply to #702887)
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I don't like guessing on picks because so much can change ahead of the draft, and at this position there is a fair amount of parity, but based on position and likely draft position, the player I like the best at #9 is Wahlstrom.
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Posted 2018-04-30 8:22 AM (#703544 - in reply to #703542)
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I don't like guessing on picks because so much can change ahead of the draft, and at this position there is a fair amount of parity, but based on position and likely draft position, the player I like the best at #9 is Wahlstrom.


Wahlstrom seems to be a consensus pick, as his name keeps coming up. I think we have a greater need for a center than a RW. There's a player that has Chicago taking Jesperi Kotkaniemi who is said to play like Kopitar and Toews. That's the player I want.
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Posted 2018-04-30 8:50 AM (#703546 - in reply to #702887)
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If we can land Trouba then we might not have to move up....Zuc also should be a goner...but if we cant land Trouba....then Kreider and the #9 should be able to move us up
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Posted 2018-04-30 8:50 AM (#703547 - in reply to #702887)
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Posted 2018-04-30 9:16 AM (#703549 - in reply to #703544)
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NTHockey - 2018-04-30 9:22 AM

concust - 2018-04-30 10:00 AM

I don't like guessing on picks because so much can change ahead of the draft, and at this position there is a fair amount of parity, but based on position and likely draft position, the player I like the best at #9 is Wahlstrom.


Wahlstrom seems to be a consensus pick, as his name keeps coming up. I think we have a greater need for a center than a RW. There's a player that has Chicago taking Jesperi Kotkaniemi who is said to play like Kopitar and Toews. That's the player I want.


He's a solid pick with high upside. Great speed, great shot, and also smart. No one's complaining about his size either. He may not have the high end offensive ceiling as some of the top picks in the draft but he's a guaranteed NHL'er.

Another center? We already have two young centers in Andersson and Chytil who are both very close to making the team, if they don't next year. Add to that equation Zbad, Hayes, possibly Spooner as all young centers, I don't think we need more depth there. Of course one of those three could get moved at the draft (I wouldn't at all be surprised)

I'm typically a "best player available" guy but at the same time I think the guys that should be available at 8-14 are all at about the same level, so at that point you look to secondary factors. I'd be happy with either guy, I'd really rather not have another reach pick.

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Posted 2018-04-30 9:16 AM (#703550 - in reply to #703547)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-30 9:50 AM

And the site is still F'd up


Maybe due to an abundance of posts complaining about the site?

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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-30 9:36 AM (#703551 - in reply to #703550)
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concust - 2018-04-30 11:16 AM

Mikey Red - 2018-04-30 9:50 AM

And the site is still F'd up


Maybe due to an abundance of posts complaining about the site?


Hahaha maybe....but its VERY frustrating when I have to hit refresh 30 times to go from page to page or to post a comment
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-30 9:39 AM (#703552 - in reply to #702887)
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Ill say it now and again at the draft....If Bob Mackenzie comes on tv right before the Rangers pick and says..."look for the Rangers to go outside the box here" God help someone....Take the best kid available at the moment...JG did good with Heatl...He would be right after Dahlin in this draft....Im not sure about Lias yet...He looks like someone that you could of got in the 3rd round
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Posted 2018-04-30 10:05 AM (#703554 - in reply to #702887)
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Posted 2018-04-30 1:33 PM (#703555 - in reply to #703551)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-30 11:36 AM

concust - 2018-04-30 11:16 AM

Mikey Red - 2018-04-30 9:50 AM

And the site is still F'd up


Maybe due to an abundance of posts complaining about the site?


Hahaha maybe....but its VERY frustrating when I have to hit refresh 30 times to go from page to page or to post a comment


You have wayyyyyyyyy too much time on your hands.
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Posted 2018-04-30 1:36 PM (#703556 - in reply to #703549)
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concust - 2018-04-30 11:16 AM

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concust - 2018-04-30 10:00 AM

I don't like guessing on picks because so much can change ahead of the draft, and at this position there is a fair amount of parity, but based on position and likely draft position, the player I like the best at #9 is Wahlstrom.


Wahlstrom seems to be a consensus pick, as his name keeps coming up. I think we have a greater need for a center than a RW. There's a player that has Chicago taking Jesperi Kotkaniemi who is said to play like Kopitar and Toews. That's the player I want.


He's a solid pick with high upside. Great speed, great shot, and also smart. No one's complaining about his size either. He may not have the high end offensive ceiling as some of the top picks in the draft but he's a guaranteed NHL'er.

Another center? We already have two young centers in Andersson and Chytil who are both very close to making the team, if they don't next year. Add to that equation Zbad, Hayes, possibly Spooner as all young centers, I don't think we need more depth there. Of course one of those three could get moved at the draft (I wouldn't at all be surprised)

I'm typically a "best player available" guy but at the same time I think the guys that should be available at 8-14 are all at about the same level, so at that point you look to secondary factors. I'd be happy with either guy, I'd really rather not have another reach pick.


I'm not convinced their either Andersson or Chytil will stay at center....Chytil especially.

BPA is definitely the way to go....but many have different opinions as to who the BPA will be.....one thing for sure, they are certainly loading up the prospects.
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Posted 2018-04-30 5:04 PM (#703557 - in reply to #703541)
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concust - 2018-04-30 9:53 AM

robstones - 2018-04-29 7:49 PM

Trading up to #2 with Carolina or to #5 with Arizona seems feasable



Ummm how? I'd say the top 4 picks are borderline untouchable. 5-6 might be a reach but we'd have to give up a lot. Remember teams that are rebuilding want the same things that the Rangers want, so it's not a good trade for them if it's a good trade for us.

At #9 I'd consider moving down a couple of spots depending on the return. The difference between 8-13/14 is not that great, so if it can net us another useful asset then I'd consider it. Regardless it's a top 10 pick so it'll be a good one either way. More likely than not a very good player will fall to 9, but it's unlikely that one of the top guys will fall that far.



Well, we have tradeable assets 3 first rounders, 2 seconds, 2 thirds, and impact roster players.

#9 pick + one of the other 1sts + Namestnikov + Sean Day + another mid round pick could just about do it
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