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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-04 10:29 AM (#705849 - in reply to #705848)
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We picked Euro last year...This year I want North American kids
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Posted 2018-06-04 3:03 PM (#705850 - in reply to #702887)
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https://www.nhl.com/news/dahlin-svechnikov-tkachuk-zadina-lead-nhl-m...

A lot of mock drafts have us picking Jesperi Kotkaniemi at #9 with Boqvist still on the board
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-04 3:24 PM (#705852 - in reply to #705850)
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https://www.nhl.com/news/dahlin-svechnikov-tkachuk-zadina-lead-nhl-m...

A lot of mock drafts have us picking Jesperi Kotkaniemi at #9 with Boqvist still on the board

If we pick Boqvist my head will explode and I will cease being a Ranger fan....Kid is small...awful at D and concussed already....They should take whoever Bob Mackenzie has as the BPA at the time....no more of this outside the box sh!t
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-04 3:35 PM (#705854 - in reply to #702887)
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I want one of Wahlstrom, Tkachuck, Dobson, Bouchard with the 9 or higher....I would also like to see Zuc packaged with the late 1 to move up into the teens....or hit a home run with Kreider and a low 1 to Arizona for the 5 and keep the 9
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-04 3:37 PM (#705855 - in reply to #702887)
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I dont want to hear about the Euro pro leagues...are they good? I guess? but if those player were so good they would be here in the NHL
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-04 3:39 PM (#705856 - in reply to #702887)
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Rasmus Dahlin is on NHL network now....quote of the day from him thats very important "the game is so fast"
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Posted 2018-06-04 7:40 PM (#705922 - in reply to #705855)
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Mikey Red - 2018-06-04 5:37 PM

I dont want to hear about the Euro pro leagues...are they good? I guess? but if those player were so good they would be here in the NHL


Compared to what? A junior league? If you're succeeding in a pro men's league as a 17 year old, you're doing well for yourself.

The talent level and speed may be similar in the OHL compared to the SHL, but the size and experience level at the SHL makes it a tougher league.
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Posted 2018-06-06 7:54 AM (#706047 - in reply to #702887)
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I'm warming up to the idea of Jesperi Kotkaniemi

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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-06 8:20 AM (#706053 - in reply to #702887)
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He has been creeping up in the rankings...Some mocks have him going in the top 10
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Posted 2018-06-06 9:21 AM (#706054 - in reply to #702887)
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-06 9:22 AM (#706055 - in reply to #706054)
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Just say no to Boqvist!
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Posted 2018-06-06 9:31 AM (#706056 - in reply to #706055)
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Mikey Red - 2018-06-06 8:22 AM


Just say no to Boqvist!





Say no to Euro’s.
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Posted 2018-06-06 9:45 AM (#706058 - in reply to #706054)
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Yeah, I've seen Bouchard falling lately, too....

Not long ago, it was him or Boqvist as the top D after Dahlin.... Now it's Dobson, who use to be almost a lock at #9.

I still like Bode Wilde.

This guy has Kotkaniemi at #3 ahead of Zadina....

Whalstrom or Tkachyuk could fall to us if Kotkaniemi and Bouchard are drafted in the top 8.

I'd take Bouchard, though. Lprd could The Rangers use a Dman with his size, and shot from the point!
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Posted 2018-06-06 9:56 AM (#706060 - in reply to #706056)
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Rranger - 2018-06-06 11:31 AM

Mikey Red - 2018-06-06 8:22 AM


Just say no to Boqvist!



Say no to Euro’s.

You wouldn't want Dahlin? Svechnikov?
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-06 10:08 AM (#706061 - in reply to #706060)
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Mikey Red - 2018-06-06 8:22 AM


Just say no to Boqvist!



Say no to Euro’s.

You wouldn't want Dahlin? Svechnikov?

Svech is not a Euro he he he....I would love both of those guys...I just want NA kids this year...Kids that play over here already...and Hell No to Boqvist
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-06 10:13 AM (#706064 - in reply to #702887)
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1 of Tkachuk, Wahlstrom, Dobson or Bouchard is my hope with the #9
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Posted 2018-06-06 11:53 AM (#706067 - in reply to #706061)
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Mikey Red - 2018-06-06 12:08 PM

Mandar - 2018-06-06 11:56 AM

Rranger - 2018-06-06 11:31 AM

Mikey Red - 2018-06-06 8:22 AM


Just say no to Boqvist!



Say no to Euro’s.

You wouldn't want Dahlin? Svechnikov?

Svech is not a Euro he he he....I would love both of those guys...I just want NA kids this year...Kids that play over here already...and Hell No to Boqvist

Shouldn't talent matter over where they are from?
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-06 12:45 PM (#706070 - in reply to #706067)
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Mandar - 2018-06-06 1:53 PM

Mikey Red - 2018-06-06 12:08 PM

Mandar - 2018-06-06 11:56 AM

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Mikey Red - 2018-06-06 8:22 AM


Just say no to Boqvist!



Say no to Euro’s.

You wouldn't want Dahlin? Svechnikov?

Svech is not a Euro he he he....I would love both of those guys...I just want NA kids this year...Kids that play over here already...and Hell No to Boqvist

Shouldn't talent matter over where they are from?

Yes...But its a different game over there...Ice surface...not nearly the same game over here with the grit
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NTHockey
Posted 2018-06-06 3:09 PM (#706071 - in reply to #706047)
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robstones - 2018-06-06 9:54 AM

I'm warming up to the idea of Jesperi Kotkaniemi



I've been pushing for him since the lottery (post 703544, 4/30/2018). According to Craig Button, "He plays the game in a similar fashion to Anze Kopitar and to Blackhawks captain Jonathan Toews." Enough said.

Edited by NTHockey 2018-06-06 3:14 PM
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Posted 2018-06-06 4:29 PM (#706072 - in reply to #706071)
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robstones - 2018-06-06 9:54 AM

I'm warming up to the idea of Jesperi Kotkaniemi



I've been pushing for him since the lottery (post 703544, 4/30/2018). According to Craig Button, "He plays the game in a similar fashion to Anze Kopitar and to Blackhawks captain Jonathan Toews." Enough said.


He's still just 17!

Zadina... Tkachuk.... their stock went up because of their play in the WJC U20.... Jesperi Kotkaniemi was too young.... and yet as a 17 year old, finished 3rd on his team in scoring for Assat.

He's almost a full year younger than Brady Tkachuk
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Posted 2018-06-06 10:43 PM (#706080 - in reply to #706060)
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Just say no to Boqvist!



Say no to Euro’s.

You wouldn't want Dahlin? Svechnikov?





Maybe if they buy the beer.
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Posted 2018-06-07 7:59 AM (#706082 - in reply to #702887)
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Personally I don't give a rats ass who they draft as long as he's ultimately the best player available at their drafting spot. They have a habit of reaching. They need the bat on the ball with the early picks this year. No sqibbers.
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Posted 2018-06-07 8:02 AM (#706083 - in reply to #706082)
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Rranger - 2018-06-07 9:59 AM

Personally I don't give a rats ass who they draft as long as he's ultimately the best player available at their drafting spot. They have a habit of reaching. They need the bat on the ball with the early picks this year. No sqibbers.

BPA! Whoever Bob Mackenzie says
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Posted 2018-06-07 8:28 AM (#706085 - in reply to #706083)
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Personally I don't give a rats ass who they draft as long as he's ultimately the best player available at their drafting spot. They have a habit of reaching. They need the bat on the ball with the early picks this year. No sqibbers.

BPA! Whoever Bob Mackenzie says





Fortunately bob's picks are allegedly a composition of a group of G.M.'s picks from around the league so they would have some merit if true. I would have very little regard if bob Mackenzie made the list up on his own.
Even if the Rangers pick as is, they should be able to get a excellent player as long as they stay away from players rated well below where they are picking.

Edited by Rranger 2018-06-07 8:30 AM
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Posted 2018-06-07 8:51 AM (#706086 - in reply to #706085)
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Personally I don't give a rats ass who they draft as long as he's ultimately the best player available at their drafting spot. They have a habit of reaching. They need the bat on the ball with the early picks this year. No sqibbers.

BPA! Whoever Bob Mackenzie says





Fortunately bob's picks are allegedly a composition of a group of G.M.'s picks from around the league so they would have some merit if true. I would have very little regard if bob Mackenzie made the list up on his own.
Even if the Rangers pick as is, they should be able to get a excellent player as long as they stay away from players rated well below where they are picking.


This.

If a player is consensus ranked lower than where you want to take him, and you really like the player, then trade down. Otherwise you're saying that you're smarter than the consensus opinion, which is an amalgam of literally hundreds of other teams' scouts and GMs over the past few years of a player's career.

Maybe you are smarter, but, probably not.
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Posted 2018-06-07 9:10 AM (#706088 - in reply to #702887)
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Yet at the same time we call it a crap shoot haha.... most of these kids won't show who they really are for another 2 or 3 years....

Everyone down on Boqvist (I'm not saying I favor him) but all the sudden he packs on some man muscle, and he's the next Brian Leetch.

It's hard to say who the best available player is after even Dahlin.... and even then, I haven't been im pressed enough with Dahlin to say he'll definitely be the best player out of this year's draft.... he probably is... but they're just teenagers!

All the sudden a Dobson or Kotkaniemi take their game to the next level.... or some 3rd rounder... Jake Wise.... they take their game to the next level, and when they get to the NHL, they're elite level.

Organizational needs should fit in to the equation as well. They needed to draft centers last year, and did. This year they need scoring wingers and RHD
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Posted 2018-06-07 9:10 AM (#706089 - in reply to #706086)
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Personally I don't give a rats ass who they draft as long as he's ultimately the best player available at their drafting spot. They have a habit of reaching. They need the bat on the ball with the early picks this year. No sqibbers.

BPA! Whoever Bob Mackenzie says





Fortunately bob's picks are allegedly a composition of a group of G.M.'s picks from around the league so they would have some merit if true. I would have very little regard if bob Mackenzie made the list up on his own.
Even if the Rangers pick as is, they should be able to get a excellent player as long as they stay away from players rated well below where they are picking.


This.

If a player is consensus ranked lower than where you want to take him, and you really like the player, then trade down. Otherwise you're saying that you're smarter than the consensus opinion, which is an amalgam of literally hundreds of other teams' scouts and GMs over the past few years of a player's career.

Maybe you are smarter, but, probably not.



This
What do you think I just wrote?? I said don't draft players well above where they are rated by your amalgam of other teams scouts and G.M.'s. Even you should be able to make the leap to trade down if you like a lower rated player.
Maybe you are smart enough to read that and comprehend but obviously not.

Edited by Rranger 2018-06-07 9:13 AM
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Posted 2018-06-07 9:11 AM (#706090 - in reply to #702887)
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Not a Faulking chance I want Faulk.
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Posted 2018-06-07 3:46 PM (#706094 - in reply to #706090)
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Not a Faulking chance I want Faulk.


I'd rather just sign JVR as a FA over trading for Skinner
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-07 4:15 PM (#706095 - in reply to #702887)
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Posted 2018-06-07 4:18 PM (#706096 - in reply to #702887)
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Posted 2018-06-07 7:25 PM (#706163 - in reply to #706095)
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Mikey Red - 2018-06-07 6:15 PM

JVR yes...and if I talk to Carolina...I want Hannafin...Hell no on Faulk


Yeah, Noah would be good if they buyout Staal. Otherwise Hijak has no real shot at cracking the lineup
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Posted 2018-06-07 7:26 PM (#706165 - in reply to #706163)
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Posted 2018-06-07 7:27 PM (#706167 - in reply to #702887)
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Posted 2018-06-07 7:59 PM (#706217 - in reply to #702887)
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http://www.tankathon.com/nhl/mock_draft

Tankathon currently has my favorite mock draft results

No one under 6'2"

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