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Posted 2018-06-23 3:11 PM (#707161 - in reply to #702887)
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C'mon July 1st!!!!
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Posted 2018-06-23 3:12 PM (#707162 - in reply to #702887)
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There has to more going on here....Trades are coming
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Posted 2018-06-23 3:14 PM (#707163 - in reply to #702887)
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I agree. It's either that or we truly are raising the white flag for the next couple of seasons at least. There just has to be something larger at play. We cannot have all these dmen. We cannot resign all these RFA's. And July 1st isn't going to mean much for us since there really aren't any very big names out there, and I don't see us winning bidding wars on long term big money contracts right now. So trades have to be coming.


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Posted 2018-06-23 3:40 PM (#707164 - in reply to #702887)
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A lost season with the only bright spot being that we got rid of AV. Kovalchuk was supposed to becoming here; instead, he'll be playing for the Kings. Tore the team up and got all those draft choices. For what? Baring a monster trade, we will have the same team as the one that ended the season. Oh, we'll have a new 4th line. None of our draft choices will be NHL ready for at least 2 years, if ever.

If I were Hank, I'd be on the first vehicle out of town. There's absolutely no reason for him to stay here and watch this train wreck.

Oh well, there's always 2053-2054.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-23 3:59 PM (#707165 - in reply to #702887)
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Gordie : Hey Jeff....you gotta see this Kravstov kid...he is having a great game vs Belarus.....I think we should ignore Bob Mackenzie and take him....to keep my streak of failures going
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-23 4:44 PM (#707166 - in reply to #702887)
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There is no justification to taking a Goalie with the 2nd round pick.....I remember Gortons draft interview last year where he looked like he wanted to pee or something.....I have zero confidence in him...we are screwed
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Posted 2018-06-23 5:15 PM (#707169 - in reply to #707157)
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Mikey Red - 2018-06-23 4:53 PM

Rob you told us that Tambellini and Graves were the goods too lol


The goods? I said they looked good. You make like you weren't high on Graves. Nils Lundkvist looks good to me....

Kravtsov and Miller look like elite talents. There's a difference.
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Posted 2018-06-23 5:24 PM (#707170 - in reply to #702887)
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I don't mind having a season dedicated to developing our now fully stocked prospect pool, and taking a shot at Jack Hughes
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-23 5:28 PM (#707172 - in reply to #707169)
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Mikey Red - 2018-06-23 4:53 PM

Rob you told us that Tambellini and Graves were the goods too lol


The goods? I said they looked good. You make like you weren't high on Graves. Nils Lundkvist looks good to me....

Kravtsov and Miller look like elite talents. There's a difference.

I never was high on Graves or Tambellini...never
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-23 5:34 PM (#707173 - in reply to #702887)
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I just want them to take who the consensus BPA are...not what Gordie thinks
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Posted 2018-06-23 5:55 PM (#707174 - in reply to #707173)
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Mikey Red - 2018-06-23 7:34 PM

I just want them to take who the consensus BPA are...not what Gordie thinks


You'd figure if the guys who make the mock drafts were so good at scouting..... they'd actually be scouts!

What does the consensus mean? All I know is our guy at 9 was ranked by central scouting as the best European forward.... maybe the 4th best North American forward is better than him.... idk.... but EVERY team has a different list than what Bob Mckenzie says..... which is probably why he's just a TSN broadcaster, and why Lawton is no longer an actual GM....
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Posted 2018-06-23 6:07 PM (#707175 - in reply to #702887)
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Like...... would you rather have K'Andre Miller, or the guy The Devils drafted, Ty Smith? Because I like Miller better even though Smith was ranked higher in mock drafts ......
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Posted 2018-06-23 6:22 PM (#707176 - in reply to #707169)
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robstones - 2018-06-23 5:15 PM

Mikey Red - 2018-06-23 4:53 PM

Rob you told us that Tambellini and Graves were the goods too lol


The goods? I said they looked good. You make like you weren't high on Graves. Nils Lundkvist looks good to me....

Kravtsov and Miller look like elite talents. There's a difference.


I was never high on either. If they were good theyd have been here.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-23 6:26 PM (#707178 - in reply to #707175)
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robstones - 2018-06-23 8:07 PM

Like...... would you rather have K'Andre Miller, or the guy The Devils drafted, Ty Smith? Because I like Miller better even though Smith was ranked higher in mock drafts ......

I like Miller...but we could of stayed put and had Mclead, Wilde, Veleno and more...taking a Goalie is pure stupidity
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-23 7:16 PM (#707179 - in reply to #702887)
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Rangers GM Jeff Gorton met with the media on Saturday following the NHL draft and said (NYR):

His thoughts, "feel great. Yesterday was a huge day for us with the three picks and really excited about what we were able to do. Today was more about value and our list and getting guys that had potential and that we were really high on. I think we were able to do that."

Why take Olof Lindbom in round two, "there are forwards, defense and goalie, it’s not like we have 22 positions here. We are trying to take the best players on our list and we had a goalie first overall, by a long shot, we thought that with our history with goalies and who we have in our organization to help develop goalies, that it would be a good pick. We will see. Only one goalie plays for you at a time and we will see how it works out. Over time, the value of goalies is very high. We like the player a lot and felt like it was an opportunity that we couldn’t pass up at that time."

Was this what you envisioned, "yea, specifically the first round is easier in trying to predict and understand what is going on there. We feel we were able to get a number of players that we wanted there. Today is different, it’s going fast and furious and basically working off your list and trying to take the best players. I’m never going to say that we are not excited, we just drafted 10 players and felt good about every one of them. I’d be naive to sit here and tell you that they are all great, because we don’t know. We will find out as we go forward but we feel really good today."

Were you close to moving any of the picks to get a roster player, "no, never close for that."

On trades and discussions, "we have a lot going on. Today, there was a big trade today, but on the whole there weren’t as many trades as we have seen at the draft, I’m going to guess that they keep coming here in the next week as we go into free agency. In the next week we will likely see some more players start to move around, at least based on the conversations that I am having. That is certainly a possibility."

Have you begun negotiating with the RFAs, "yea. We’ve talked to almost every one, 4 out of 5, at pretty good length and feeling them out. I think Spooner is the only one we haven’t had lengthy discussions with, we will this week. We are just getting an idea of what it will take and what is the best way to go moving forward."

On the 7th round pick, "Riley Hughes is a player from Boston and our guys from the Boston area really liked him and felt he had a higher value. We saw him on the board and we are having a conversation asking if there is anybody here that you would really want. We have two seventh round picks next year, is there someone that you really want. With a history of Boston players in the organization and being from Boston, I felt it would be a good move."

Did you think there would be moves, "that is a good question. I came here thinking we would make picks and then see what happens with our conversations. I would say that there were less conversations than I had anticipated, but it seems like there are some higher end players holding things back."

Is Riley Hughes someone David Quinn had recruited, "I don’t think that he did. I think the answer is no."

On K’Andre Miller, "special athlete, special kid. Anyone who time with him yesterday can understand what kind of kid he is and what character he has. On the ice there is unlimited potential, he can really skate, is big, aggressive and just touching the surface here. He is a guy that, at the end of the day, he will do everything he can to be as good as he can and those are the players that we want."

On the amount of Euro players, "there is no emphasis on that, we are going off the list and at the time you may look at 2-3 guys in the area and say how does it look. If you look around the league, there are a lot of good Euro players and a lot of good North American players and I don’t think we are shading one way or the other. It’s the way it’s falling right now. Just a matter of circumstance."

On the first round picks being in North America next year, "development camp will start and we will talk to them all. I’m pretty sure that K’Andre will go to Wisconsin. We will have to see what Kravtsov is going to do, that will take some time to figure that out. With Lundkvist he is probably better suited to stay over there, keep playing and develop."

On Kravtsov having the option to buy out his final KHL year, "those contracts are hard to read but I would say that the option is there. He wants to be here sooner than later so I think that will help us."

On how the first round went, "you never really know but before the draft you sit with the scouts and Gordie and his staff and go through the scenarios. It’s pretty close to what we wanted to do and anticipated. There are 30 other teams trying to take the best players too, so you do the best that you can and we really feel confident that we did well in the first round."

Can Kravtsov go to Hartford, "yea, similar to Chytil."

On free agency, "we will talk to the players that we like and see if there are some holes we can fill. It’s like any other year, we have more salary space than we usually do, but we kind of know what our Group 2’s are looking for and what it might take, I think we are in a position to talk to as many free agents as we can that we like and go forward that way."

Is there interest in bringing back any of the traded players, "they are still technically players that we traded that belong to another team, so I can’t say but there are some free agents out there that we like. I can’t talk about someone elses players but if you ask me in a few days I could probably answer that question better."
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Posted 2018-06-23 8:12 PM (#707183 - in reply to #707178)
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Mikey Red - 2018-06-23 8:26 PM

robstones - 2018-06-23 8:07 PM

Like...... would you rather have K'Andre Miller, or the guy The Devils drafted, Ty Smith? Because I like Miller better even though Smith was ranked higher in mock drafts ......

I like Miller...but we could of stayed put and had Mclead, Wilde, Veleno and more...taking a Goalie is pure stupidity


I like Miller better than all of those guys, I think. Hard to get excited about Veleno when all the commentators say he's a future 3rd line center. McLeod.... if he pans out is another middle center. That's his upside. With Howden, Chytil, and Andersson.... how do those guys make sense for us to draft?

I've talked about Wilde's risks too. I like him for his size and speed with the right handed shot, but.... apparently he's a bonehead. Great raw skill, but low hockey IQ

I don't know anythimg about any of the goalies this year, but the scouting staff has this guy as the best in the class "by a long shot" If they're wrong.... yeah it's dumb.... but if they're right, then there's serious value there.

If we have a future goalie controversy on our hands, that's a great problem to have.

Having a glut of defense and/or two starting goalies gives The Rangers big time trading chips and options as these players develope.

As far as this coming season goes, by the sounds of Gorton's interview, there's some things in the works. We'll just have to stat tuned

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Posted 2018-06-23 8:15 PM (#707184 - in reply to #707176)
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sk4life40 - 2018-06-23 8:22 PM

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Mikey Red - 2018-06-23 4:53 PM

Rob you told us that Tambellini and Graves were the goods too lol


The goods? I said they looked good. You make like you weren't high on Graves. Nils Lundkvist looks good to me....

Kravtsov and Miller look like elite talents. There's a difference.


I was never high on either. If they were good theyd have been here.


I wasn't high on either myself. They had NHL potential as bottom pair/checking line role players.... about as excited as I've ever been about them. I seem to remember a lot of people thinking Graves should've been on the team last year. I wasn't one

Edited by robstones 2018-06-23 8:17 PM
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Posted 2018-06-23 8:32 PM (#707185 - in reply to #702887)
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Posted 2018-06-24 10:33 AM (#707213 - in reply to #702887)
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Anyone know why Adam Samuelsson (Ulf's son) wasn't drafted? Tsn.ca had him as a 3rd or 4th round pick.
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Posted 2018-06-24 1:13 PM (#707216 - in reply to #707213)
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NTHockey - 2018-06-24 12:33 PM

Anyone know why Adam Samuelsson (Ulf's son) wasn't drafted? Tsn.ca had him as a 3rd or 4th round pick.

I guess you can't believe everything you read
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-24 5:46 PM (#707230 - in reply to #707216)
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Mandar - 2018-06-24 3:13 PM

NTHockey - 2018-06-24 12:33 PM

Anyone know why Adam Samuelsson (Ulf's son) wasn't drafted? Tsn.ca had him as a 3rd or 4th round pick.

I guess you can't believe everything you read

thats EASILY a fair point
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Posted 2018-06-24 6:04 PM (#707231 - in reply to #707157)
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Mikey Red - 2018-06-23 4:53 PM

Rob you told us that Tambellini and Graves were the goods too lol

Wasn’t it Dump who loved these guys?

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Posted 2018-06-25 11:26 AM (#707263 - in reply to #702887)
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Mikey Red - 2018-06-23 4:53 PM

Rob you told us that Tambellini and Graves were the goods too lol

Wasn’t it Dump who loved these guys?



If they never made the team, the most likely answer is yes he did.
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Posted 2018-06-25 3:58 PM (#707284 - in reply to #707231)
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Steady Eddie - 2018-06-24 7:04 PM

Mikey Red - 2018-06-23 4:53 PM

Rob you told us that Tambellini and Graves were the goods too lol

Wasn’t it Dump who loved these guys?



Exactly.

Rangers drafted 2/3 NHLers in the third round that year. That alone is incredible. Tambellini is a good AHL player and a fringe NHLer, and for a third round pick, that's not bad.

Ryan Graves won the hardest shot contest at the AHL all star game, and as everyone knows that's reason enough to have an NHL job, so I am just mystified with that one.
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Posted 2018-06-25 5:40 PM (#707286 - in reply to #707284)
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Tambellini released today.
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Posted 2018-06-25 5:58 PM (#707289 - in reply to #707286)
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Mcphee - 2018-06-25 7:40 PM

Tambellini released today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jz1TjCphXE
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Posted 2018-06-25 7:23 PM (#707293 - in reply to #707289)
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Mikey Red - 2018-06-25 5:58 PM

Mcphee - 2018-06-25 7:40 PM

Tambellini released today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jz1TjCphXE


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Posted 2018-06-25 8:22 PM (#707294 - in reply to #702887)
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Posted 2018-06-26 7:47 AM (#707303 - in reply to #707286)
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Mcphee - 2018-06-25 6:40 PM

Tambellini released today.


Technically he was not given a qualifying offer which means he'll be UFA on July 1. Rangers can still negotiate with him exclusively until July 1, and can still sign him afterwards.

Tambellini didn't exactly break out in the AHL like most had hoped but he had an ok season and I'm a little surprised he wasn't qualified. This does open up a contract spot, which the Rangers will need. He didn't play great but at the same time he didn't play poorly either.

I've always like Fogarty, but I can't for the life of me figure out why they would qualify Fogarty over Tambellini. They're both centers, Tambellini is bigger, better offensive instincts, better shot, and two year younger. He's got a higher offensive ceiling than Fogarty, who at best is a fourth line NHL center (think Dominic Moore with less skill), and the Rangers are already flush with young bottom 6 centers. Why not keep the Tambellini who at least brings a little more scoring punch and offensive instinct?

Maybe there's a locker room reason.
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Posted 2018-06-26 7:36 PM (#707340 - in reply to #702887)
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Posted 2018-06-26 8:01 PM (#707341 - in reply to #702887)
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Posted 2018-06-26 9:15 PM (#707343 - in reply to #702887)
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They'll both be at the WJC, right?

Whalstrom says he's better than Kravtsov.....
Rangers say they liked Kravtsov better than anyone other than Svechnikov...... so they say....
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Posted 2018-06-26 9:26 PM (#707344 - in reply to #707343)
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robstones - 2018-06-26 11:15 PM

They'll both be at the WJC, right?

Whalstrom says he's better than Kravtsov.....
Rangers say they liked Kravtsov better than anyone other than Svechnikov...... so they say....

Yep Lol...If not Gordie should be fired....Remember Ollie had Hughes and Farabee on his line
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Posted 2018-06-28 7:21 AM (#707379 - in reply to #707343)
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robstones - 2018-06-26 10:15 PM

They'll both be at the WJC, right?

Whalstrom says he's better than Kravtsov.....
Rangers say they liked Kravtsov better than anyone other than Svechnikov...... so they say....


Don't worry, we'll just tell K'Andre Miller run into him "accidentally on purpose" in practice
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