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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2018-04-15 9:41 AM (#703256 - in reply to #702896)
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Posted 2018-04-15 12:15 PM (#703257 - in reply to #702896)
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Posted 2018-04-15 1:14 PM (#703258 - in reply to #703256)
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Not a fan -- Too bad Schoeny won't coach.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-15 7:26 PM (#703259 - in reply to #703258)
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Posted 2018-04-15 8:43 PM (#703260 - in reply to #703259)
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Eric Staal just keeps on scoring





According to wonder coach he was a third line winger,
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-16 7:49 AM (#703265 - in reply to #703260)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-15 6:26 PM

Eric Staal just keeps on scoring





According to wonder coach he was a third line winger,

Yep....I hope our next Coach is Keefe....I dont want an NCAA guy.....the success rate when they jump to NHL is not there ....Badger Bob has a def asterisk
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robstones
Posted 2018-04-16 9:48 AM (#703266 - in reply to #703265)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-16 9:49 AM

Yep....I hope our next Coach is Keefe....I dont want an NCAA guy.....the success rate when they jump to NHL is not there ....Badger Bob has a def asterisk


https://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2018/4/16/17225020/new-york-rangers-...

Here's a good read on Keefe

I'm on board. I can see him bringing MSL on as offensive coach

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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-16 10:02 AM (#703267 - in reply to #703266)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-16 9:49 AM

Yep....I hope our next Coach is Keefe....I dont want an NCAA guy.....the success rate when they jump to NHL is not there ....Badger Bob has a def asterisk


https://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2018/4/16/17225020/new-york-rangers-...

Here's a good read on Keefe

I'm on board. I can see him bringing MSL on as offensive coach

I dig it....If we go NHL route...I would like to Interview Patrick Roy and Bill Peters if he becomes available.
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Rranger
Posted 2018-04-16 10:47 AM (#703268 - in reply to #702896)
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Then there’s this guy, with a nice write up making him sound like the one.

https://nypost.com/2018/04/15/champion-ncaa-coach-could-be-outside-t...

Big decision Jeff, take your time.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-16 11:11 AM (#703269 - in reply to #702896)
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Posted 2018-04-16 11:20 AM (#703270 - in reply to #702896)
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I do like the idea of an NCAA coach if this is going to be a young rebuilding team. Not every coach is good with every type of team, which is why it's more important to find the right *fit* rather than a "good coach." Scotty Bowman on a rebuilding team is not a good fit. But it's undeniable that he's a good coach.

An NCAA guy would typically have success working with, motivating, younger players. This also involves a large aspect of teaching - something many coaches do not do well (AV for example).

This comes with the caveat that as the team changes into a more mature, veteran team that will become a contender, your ex-NCAA coach may no longer be the right guy for the job. In short, it's counterintuitive, but the coach on a rebuilding team should be judged by much more than wins alone.

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robstones
Posted 2018-04-16 2:15 PM (#703280 - in reply to #703268)
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Rranger - 2018-04-16 12:47 PM

Then there’s this guy, with a nice write up making him sound like the one.

https://nypost.com/2018/04/15/champion-ncaa-coach-could-be-outside-t...

Big decision Jeff, take your time.


Yeah, I like him, too
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robstones
Posted 2018-04-16 2:19 PM (#703281 - in reply to #703267)
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robstones - 2018-04-16 11:48 AM

Mikey Red - 2018-04-16 9:49 AM

Yep....I hope our next Coach is Keefe....I dont want an NCAA guy.....the success rate when they jump to NHL is not there ....Badger Bob has a def asterisk


https://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2018/4/16/17225020/new-york-rangers-...

Here's a good read on Keefe

I'm on board. I can see him bringing MSL on as offensive coach

I dig it....If we go NHL route...I would like to Interview Patrick Roy and Bill Peters if he becomes available.


This part of the article won me over


"There are a few things I’ve learned about Keefe in the last three years that really stand out. The first, is that he’s a detail-freak. You’d be hard-pressed to find a coach who is as dialed into how to create successful systems at even-strength as Keefe, particularly offensively. His teams play fast, his players know where to find open space, and they score and create a ton as a result. The same can be said to how they defend too. The Marlies have been blessed with good goaltending but they also play a tight style that contains really well.

This is a drastic adjustment from both John Tortorella and Vigneault, who both forced systems that took away from the Rangers’ ability to break out and create sustained offensive pressure. Where Tortorella’s system was build on quick counterattacks and a gritty, shot-blocking defense, Vigneault’s system forced quick breakouts that either needed to turn into one-off opportunities or a dump and cycle to try and retain possession. Both of those ideals seem to be at odds with the way Keefe wants to play the game, and that’s a blessing that we’ve been waiting for on Broadway for a long, long time."
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-16 2:34 PM (#703282 - in reply to #703281)
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robstones - 2018-04-16 4:19 PM

Mikey Red - 2018-04-16 12:02 PM

robstones - 2018-04-16 11:48 AM

Mikey Red - 2018-04-16 9:49 AM

Yep....I hope our next Coach is Keefe....I dont want an NCAA guy.....the success rate when they jump to NHL is not there ....Badger Bob has a def asterisk


https://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2018/4/16/17225020/new-york-rangers-...

Here's a good read on Keefe

I'm on board. I can see him bringing MSL on as offensive coach

I dig it....If we go NHL route...I would like to Interview Patrick Roy and Bill Peters if he becomes available.


This part of the article won me over


"There are a few things I’ve learned about Keefe in the last three years that really stand out. The first, is that he’s a detail-freak. You’d be hard-pressed to find a coach who is as dialed into how to create successful systems at even-strength as Keefe, particularly offensively. His teams play fast, his players know where to find open space, and they score and create a ton as a result. The same can be said to how they defend too. The Marlies have been blessed with good goaltending but they also play a tight style that contains really well.

This is a drastic adjustment from both John Tortorella and Vigneault, who both forced systems that took away from the Rangers’ ability to break out and create sustained offensive pressure. Where Tortorella’s system was build on quick counterattacks and a gritty, shot-blocking defense, Vigneault’s system forced quick breakouts that either needed to turn into one-off opportunities or a dump and cycle to try and retain possession. Both of those ideals seem to be at odds with the way Keefe wants to play the game, and that’s a blessing that we’ve been waiting for on Broadway for a long, long time."
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-17 7:51 AM (#703289 - in reply to #702896)
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-17 7:56 AM (#703290 - in reply to #702896)
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Rranger
Posted 2018-04-17 9:13 AM (#703291 - in reply to #703289)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-17 6:51 AM

Miller def held back

https://nypost.com/2018/04/16/the-rangers-other-trade-chip-found-hoc...






He did, pretty mature on his part. Remains to be seen the trade return on he and McDonagh but he was one guy I didn't want traded til a new coach had a chance to work with him. The bull**** about his conditioning and attitude was a pathetic attempt on chewys part to give him a excuse down the road if Miller played well in Tampa, which he is. Showing a lot of skill and ability with the big boys, assets anybody could see but stupid. 18 points in 19 games to finish the season.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-17 9:30 AM (#703293 - in reply to #702896)
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The minute Gorton saw JT on the 4th line he should of terminated AV
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Rranger
Posted 2018-04-17 9:50 AM (#703295 - in reply to #703293)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-17 8:30 AM

The minute Gorton saw JT on the 4th line he should of terminated AV






I knew that crap pile was going to somehow get rid of Miller.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-17 10:07 AM (#703296 - in reply to #703295)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-17 8:30 AM

The minute Gorton saw JT on the 4th line he should of terminated AV






I knew that crap pile was going to somehow get rid of Miller.

Yep....Now Gorton better show us something
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Rranger
Posted 2018-04-17 12:10 PM (#703297 - in reply to #703296)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-17 9:07 AM

Rranger - 2018-04-17 11:50 AM

Mikey Red - 2018-04-17 8:30 AM

The minute Gorton saw JT on the 4th line he should of terminated AV






I knew that crap pile was going to somehow get rid of Miller.

Yep....Now Gorton better show us something






I meant chewy wanted him gone.
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Posted 2018-04-17 2:01 PM (#703298 - in reply to #703291)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-17 6:51 AM

Miller def held back

https://nypost.com/2018/04/16/the-rangers-other-trade-chip-found-hoc...






He did, pretty mature on his part. Remains to be seen the trade return on he and McDonagh but he was one guy I didn't want traded til a new coach had a chance to work with him. The bull**** about his conditioning and attitude was a pathetic attempt on chewys part to give him a excuse down the road if Miller played well in Tampa, which he is. Showing a lot of skill and ability with the big boys, assets anybody could see but stupid. 18 points in 19 games to finish the season.


He was definitely my favorite Ranger....

Hajek seems to be a great add. Unsure on Howden, but if both of their games translate to the NHL..... which, it looks good..... then all is well.

I think Namestnikov is gone on draft day, so there could be even more of a return yet.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-17 4:08 PM (#703299 - in reply to #703298)
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Posted 2018-04-17 4:30 PM (#703300 - in reply to #703299)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-17 3:08 PM

Calgary has fired it's entire coaching staff





And there will be more Trotz if Washington goes down,wouldn’t be suprised if Edmonton gasses McClellan, Boudreau in Minny, Carlyle in Anaheim. Who else?

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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-17 4:44 PM (#703301 - in reply to #703300)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-17 3:08 PM

Calgary has fired it's entire coaching staff





And there will be more Trotz if Washington goes down,wouldn’t be suprised if Edmonton gasses McClellan, Boudreau in Minny, Carlyle in Anaheim. Who else?

Yep...should be interesting
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Posted 2018-04-17 7:02 PM (#703302 - in reply to #703298)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-17 6:51 AM

Miller def held back

https://nypost.com/2018/04/16/the-rangers-other-trade-chip-found-hoc...






He did, pretty mature on his part. Remains to be seen the trade return on he and McDonagh but he was one guy I didn't want traded til a new coach had a chance to work with him. The bull**** about his conditioning and attitude was a pathetic attempt on chewys part to give him a excuse down the road if Miller played well in Tampa, which he is. Showing a lot of skill and ability with the big boys, assets anybody could see but stupid. 18 points in 19 games to finish the season.


He was definitely my favorite Ranger....

Hajek seems to be a great add. Unsure on Howden, but if both of their games translate to the NHL..... which, it looks good..... then all is well.

I think Namestnikov is gone on draft day, so there could be even more of a return yet.




Well they say getting Hajek required Miller in the deal for Tampa to agree we know it wasn’t those two one for one but included as part of the package. Howden seems to be flying under the radar as most of the trade talk seems to be about Hajek, but Howden is captain of his team and playing a significant role in his teams success including playoffs. Unfortunately his team lost the final game of their series, so they are out and his season is done. I suspect most will know who Howdenis after training camp next season.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-17 7:37 PM (#703303 - in reply to #702896)
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Rranger
Posted 2018-04-22 7:50 AM (#703377 - in reply to #702896)
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I wish more players would open up about his coaching.


https://foreverblueshirts.com/buchnevich-tells-russian-paper-vigneau...


The whole interview.


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A...


Edited by Rranger 2018-04-22 7:59 AM
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2018-04-22 3:07 PM (#703378 - in reply to #702896)
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Interesting article, & I agree with him & Dolan.
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Posted 2018-04-22 4:47 PM (#703379 - in reply to #702896)
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He didn't say anything we didn't know...we spoke many times about him and Renney's line changes....we've spoken many times about his "punishment" for the slightest mistake....and, of course, his reliance on certain players during certain situations.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-23 7:02 AM (#703383 - in reply to #702896)
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We are officially in Lottery week!
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-23 12:11 PM (#703388 - in reply to #702896)
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Posted 2018-04-23 12:11 PM (#703389 - in reply to #702896)
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Posted 2018-04-23 5:31 PM (#703392 - in reply to #703383)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-23 9:02 AM

We are officially in Lottery week!


5 days away!!!
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-04-23 5:47 PM (#703396 - in reply to #703392)
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Mikey Red - 2018-04-23 9:02 AM

We are officially in Lottery week!


5 days away!!!
Woooo!
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