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Fish
Posted 2018-07-16 12:35 PM (#708139)
Subject: Gilmour, Bigras and O'Gara resigned



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Per NYR....all one year deals. Also belatedly announced the Fogarty and Nieves signings...also one years.
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Steady Eddie
Posted 2018-07-16 1:50 PM (#708143 - in reply to #708139)
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That leaves just Hayes, Skjei, Spooner and Vesey from the RFA list. That will bring us to 47 contracts. Just 3 new names on the contract list, Claesson, Lindqvist, and Meskanen. Highly unusual to have added only 3 new names.

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Posted 2018-07-16 4:48 PM (#708146 - in reply to #708139)
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Gilmour blows. So does O'Gara.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-07-16 5:00 PM (#708147 - in reply to #708139)
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Gilmour is another guy I would try at forward
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Rranger
Posted 2018-07-17 8:41 AM (#708148 - in reply to #708139)
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If they are on the Rangers, it will be a long long year. Gilmour is close but at 25 doesn't have much room for improvement. Hes not a prototypical 3rd pair guy, and with others ahead of him on the PP he's not really a fit down the depth chart. And he sure ain't top four. O'Gara is Hartford material. I watched Hajek a fair bit last year and he beats out either one hands down.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-07-17 1:39 PM (#708152 - in reply to #708139)
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Vesey has re signed for 2 years
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sureshore
Posted 2018-07-17 2:22 PM (#708153 - in reply to #708147)
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Mikey Red - 2018-07-16 7:00 PM

Gilmour is another guy I would try at forward


If this guy (or any player) hasn't played as a forward at the juniors, college, AHL or NHL level so far, I don't know why you think he (or D'Angelo for that matter) can suddenly play that position in the NHL. Don't you think at some point some coach would have already tried this?

Very few players have made that conversion and those that can (notably Bufyglien and Burns) are special talents. And even Burns was a forward before he became a d-man, so not sure he even counts in the discussion. I know Lindy
Ruff and a few other 'enforcer types' have been moved to forward for situational reasons. So tell me - why do you think this is a good career move?

https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/top-5-defensemenforwards-of-a...


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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-07-17 2:52 PM (#708155 - in reply to #708153)
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sureshore - 2018-07-17 4:22 PM

Mikey Red - 2018-07-16 7:00 PM

Gilmour is another guy I would try at forward


If this guy (or any player) hasn't played as a forward at the juniors, college, AHL or NHL level so far, I don't know why you think he (or D'Angelo for that matter) can suddenly play that position in the NHL. Don't you think at some point some coach would have already tried this?

Very few players have made that conversion and those that can (notably Bufyglien and Burns) are special talents. And even Burns was a forward before he became a d-man, so not sure he even counts in the discussion. I know Lindy
Ruff and a few other 'enforcer types' have been moved to forward for situational reasons. So tell me - why do you think this is a good career move?

https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/top-5-defensemenforwards-of-a...



Because it might be all they got left....how hard is it to play forward? TD already has big league offensive ability...but he is small...I doubt he is an NHL defenseman...Gilmour is a great skater but also small and no way an NHL defenseman
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sureshore
Posted 2018-07-17 3:12 PM (#708159 - in reply to #708155)
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Mikey Red - 2018-07-17 4:52 PM

sureshore - 2018-07-17 4:22 PM

Mikey Red - 2018-07-16 7:00 PM

Gilmour is another guy I would try at forward


If this guy (or any player) hasn't played as a forward at the juniors, college, AHL or NHL level so far, I don't know why you think he (or D'Angelo for that matter) can suddenly play that position in the NHL. Don't you think at some point some coach would have already tried this?

Very few players have made that conversion and those that can (notably Bufyglien and Burns) are special talents. And even Burns was a forward before he became a d-man, so not sure he even counts in the discussion. I know Lindy
Ruff and a few other 'enforcer types' have been moved to forward for situational reasons. So tell me - why do you think this is a good career move?

https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/top-5-defensemenforwards-of-a...



Because it might be all they got left....how hard is it to play forward?



"...the transition is difficult. These professionals have been schooled on subtleties and nuances of their positions for years and making the switch typically requires significant training." Again, if it was so easy, why can you count the number who have done it on one hand (and those guys are big guys). What makes D'Angelo (and Gilmour to a lesser extent) offensively gifted is that they are doing it from the back end. They'd likely be invisible up front, if they'd even see the ice.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-07-17 3:15 PM (#708160 - in reply to #708139)
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I think TD could do it...I doubt Gilmour can
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sureshore
Posted 2018-07-17 3:18 PM (#708163 - in reply to #708143)
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Steady Eddie - 2018-07-16 3:50 PM

That leaves just Hayes, Skjei, Spooner and Vesey from the RFA list. That will bring us to 47 contracts. Just 3 new names on the contract list, Claesson, Lindqvist, and Meskanen. Highly unusual to have added only 3 new names.



I thought the 50 man roster was somewhere on this site? Can someone point me in the right direction?
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-07-17 3:35 PM (#708164 - in reply to #708139)
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http://outsidethegarden.com/boards/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=35761...
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Rranger
Posted 2018-07-17 3:37 PM (#708165 - in reply to #708163)
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sureshore - 2018-07-17 2:18 PM

Steady Eddie - 2018-07-16 3:50 PM

That leaves just Hayes, Skjei, Spooner and Vesey from the RFA list. That will bring us to 47 contracts. Just 3 new names on the contract list, Claesson, Lindqvist, and Meskanen. Highly unusual to have added only 3 new names.



I thought the 50 man roster was somewhere on this site? Can someone point me in the right direction?




50 contract thread 2nd one down.
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Rranger
Posted 2018-07-17 3:42 PM (#708166 - in reply to #708159)
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sureshore - 2018-07-17 2:12 PM

Mikey Red - 2018-07-17 4:52 PM

sureshore - 2018-07-17 4:22 PM

Mikey Red - 2018-07-16 7:00 PM

Gilmour is another guy I would try at forward


If this guy (or any player) hasn't played as a forward at the juniors, college, AHL or NHL level so far, I don't know why you think he (or D'Angelo for that matter) can suddenly play that position in the NHL. Don't you think at some point some coach would have already tried this?

Very few players have made that conversion and those that can (notably Bufyglien and Burns) are special talents. And even Burns was a forward before he became a d-man, so not sure he even counts in the discussion. I know Lindy
Ruff and a few other 'enforcer types' have been moved to forward for situational reasons. So tell me - why do you think this is a good career move?

https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/top-5-defensemenforwards-of-a...



Because it might be all they got left....how hard is it to play forward?



"...the transition is difficult. These professionals have been schooled on subtleties and nuances of their positions for years and making the switch typically requires significant training." Again, if it was so easy, why can you count the number who have done it on one hand (and those guys are big guys). What makes D'Angelo (and Gilmour to a lesser extent) offensively gifted is that they are doing it from the back end. They'd likely be invisible up front, if they'd even see the ice.




It’s very difficultto learn a new position.. Hopefully Quinn can unlock what the Rangers have in DeAngelo. Played for a guy who really didn’t leave a bunch of guys behind who you could say saw significant improvement. In fact it’s a rather bleak list of who did. Most worse off than when chewy started coaching them.

Edited by Rranger 2018-07-17 4:46 PM
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-07-17 5:10 PM (#708169 - in reply to #708139)
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Yep lets hope its the new Coach who can unlock some stuff....AV was F'n garbage
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Blue404
Posted 2018-07-17 8:55 PM (#708175 - in reply to #708139)
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I have heard that Tambelini is good.
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