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Legend Posts: 17633 ![]() Location: AV is gone | Vua - 2018-09-23 12:48 PM Mikey Red - 2018-09-23 8:59 AM I hear ya...but the counter point is that he is on a stacked team and the rest of the League is chit Blueshirt banter trash comments. Some random poster guesses right on a draft pick and now he's a Ranger insider. hahahaha yep...I hate most of the people on that site altho I am not a member | ||
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![]() Legend Posts: 12886 ![]() Location: New Jersey | Mikey Red - 2018-09-23 10:59 AM nd I hear ya...but the counter point is that he is on a stacked team and the rest of the League is chit The rest of the league isn't chit... He IS on a good team... no doubt... but as good as they are, they started out with a 3-2 record with Hellberg... and have gone 4-0 with Shestyorkin... 2 of the wins were shutouts.... It's the undeniable second best league in the world, and Shesty is one of, if not THE best goalie in that league.... if he keeps this pace, he will be... They like Olof Lindbom, but goalies tend to take longer to develop... Igor is coming next year, so let's imagine the likely scenario of him being Lundqvist's backup at the begining of next season..... if we didn't draft Lindbom, our prospect pool would be EMPTY. By the time Lindbom is NHL ready, Lundqvist will be retired, Shestyorkin will be starter with a few years NHL experience, and best case scenario we have a goalie controversy... for maybe a year or two, and then we can sell one for a premium! I guess we could've drafted another freaking defenseman, or something, but they made a really smart decision to restock the goalie position while they had the chance. Nothing is guarenteed for next year's draft. Edited by robstones 2018-09-23 9:15 PM | ||
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Steady Eddie![]() |
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MVP Posts: 7464 ![]() | Igor's KHL contract will expire at the end of the season. He will be 23 next season. Same age Hank was when he became our starter. | ||
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Legend Posts: 15323 ![]() Location: USA | Vua - 2018-09-23 11:48 AM Mikey Red - 2018-09-23 8:59 AM I hear ya...but the counter point is that he is on a stacked team and the rest of the League is chit Blueshirt banter trash comments. Some random poster guesses right on a draft pick and now he's a Ranger insider. Not sure if you're referring to a specific trash comment or not, but there is truth to Shestyerkin's stats being inflated due to the team he plays on. (How much so, is a matter of debate). This certainly is not to take away from his talents or his abilities or his status as the Rangers' top goaltending prospect, but many goaltending stats are heavily influenced by team and it's important to see his stats in context. | ||
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Legend Posts: 15323 ![]() Location: USA | robstones - 2018-09-23 9:10 PM Mikey Red - 2018-09-23 10:59 AM nd I hear ya...but the counter point is that he is on a stacked team and the rest of the League is chit The rest of the league isn't chit... He IS on a good team... no doubt... but as good as they are, they started out with a 3-2 record with Hellberg... and have gone 4-0 with Shestyorkin... 2 of the wins were shutouts.... It's the undeniable second best league in the world, and Shesty is one of, if not THE best goalie in that league.... if he keeps this pace, he will be... They like Olof Lindbom, but goalies tend to take longer to develop... Igor is coming next year, so let's imagine the likely scenario of him being Lundqvist's backup at the begining of next season..... if we didn't draft Lindbom, our prospect pool would be EMPTY. By the time Lindbom is NHL ready, Lundqvist will be retired, Shestyorkin will be starter with a few years NHL experience, and best case scenario we have a goalie controversy... for maybe a year or two, and then we can sell one for a premium! I guess we could've drafted another freaking defenseman, or something, but they made a really smart decision to restock the goalie position while they had the chance. Nothing is guarenteed for next year's draft. I totally agree with continuing to take goaltenders because they are so difficult to draft with any certainty, and you need to keep the pipeline stocked. It wasn't so long ago that people were thinking that Skapski or Halverson would be the heir apparent. Meanwhile, other unheraleded guys (Wall, Nell, Huska) have moved up the depth chart. I have no problem with Lindbom as a player but my criticism of him was of draft position (and therefore the Rangers' draft strategy). Like Keane, Lindbom is a player I thought (many thought) could be drafted much later. So there's a bit of the Rangers leaving some value on the table by drafting him early. Having said that it's water under the bridge at this point, I want them to draft smart but if he turns out to be good, it won't matter if he's a first rounder, a third rounder, or an undrafted FA. | ||
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Legend Posts: 15323 ![]() Location: USA | robstones - 2018-09-23 9:10 PM They like Olof Lindbom, but goalies tend to take longer to develop... Igor is coming next year, so let's imagine the likely scenario of him being Lundqvist's backup at the begining of next season..... if we didn't draft Lindbom, our prospect pool would be EMPTY. Sorry rob but have to call this out, this is not true. Georgiev has a very good shot at backing up this year. Probably does not project to be a starter but he's young still. Huska started slow but had an incredible second half. Lindbom certainly helps add to the depth but it's not like the goaltending cupboard is bare. The Ragners have actually done a very good job managing the goaltending pipeline in the past 6-8 years or so. | ||
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Mikey Red![]() |
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Legend Posts: 17633 ![]() Location: AV is gone | PROJECTED #NYR LINEUP FOR TONIGHT vs NJ: GOALTENDERS Lundqvist Mazanec SKATERS McLeod Hayes Fast Staal Kreider Claesson Zuccarello Fogarty Beleskey Smith Pionk Andersson Skjei DeAngelo Buchnevich Zibanejad Lettieri Gettinger | ||
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Mikey Red![]() |
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Legend Posts: 17633 ![]() Location: AV is gone | Gryba is in the lineup for NJ.....I hope justice is served quickly.....Looks like Heatl is in the press box | ||
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Mikey Red![]() |
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Legend Posts: 17633 ![]() Location: AV is gone | Has Lindquist played since Game 1?...Not sure what they still want to see out of Fogarty | ||
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![]() Publisher Posts: 68225 ![]() Location: USA | Mikey Red - 2018-09-24 8:50 AM Has Lindquist played since Game 1?...Not sure what they still want to see out of Fogarty My guess on Fogarty is that they may look at moving him in a minor league deal...a bit of playing time might give others a chance to see his play | ||
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Mikey Red![]() |
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Legend Posts: 17633 ![]() Location: AV is gone | Fish - 2018-09-25 12:06 PM Mikey Red - 2018-09-24 8:50 AM Has Lindquist played since Game 1?...Not sure what they still want to see out of Fogarty My guess on Fogarty is that they may look at moving him in a minor league deal...a bit of playing time might give others a chance to see his play Fair enough ! | ||
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Vua![]() |
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All-Star Posts: 1951 ![]() | concust - 2018-09-24 9:24 AM Vua - 2018-09-23 11:48 AM Mikey Red - 2018-09-23 8:59 AM I hear ya...but the counter point is that he is on a stacked team and the rest of the League is chit Blueshirt banter trash comments. Some random poster guesses right on a draft pick and now he's a Ranger insider. Not sure if you're referring to a specific trash comment or not, but there is truth to Shestyerkin's stats being inflated due to the team he plays on. (How much so, is a matter of debate). This certainly is not to take away from his talents or his abilities or his status as the Rangers' top goaltending prospect, but many goaltending stats are heavily influenced by team and it's important to see his stats in context. Actually it was a specific comment as he was saying the Rangers feel Shestyorkin is overrated because of his team(his team isn't that dominant) and they are going to try and sign Panarin and Bobrovsky after this season. Then he mentions his prowess of getting the Kravtsov pick right and others chime in with their belief he's right because of this past insider info he has at his finger tips. | ||
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Mikey Red![]() |
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Legend Posts: 17633 ![]() Location: AV is gone | Todays article Brooks does not have Lias making the team at this point.....When our friend RangerNut posts it we can read it! | ||
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Mikey Red![]() |
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Legend Posts: 17633 ![]() Location: AV is gone | Tonights game ......I guess Lindquist and Meskanen are hype GOALTENDERS Lundqvist Mazanec SKATERS Staal Kreider Shattenkirk Spooner Vesey Zuccarello Pionk Howden Andersson McQuaid Chytil Crawley Skjei Buchnevich Namestnikov Zibanejad Lettieri Gettinger | ||
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Mikey Red![]() |
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Legend Posts: 17633 ![]() Location: AV is gone | And I guess its Pionk tonight vs TD tomorrow night for a D spot | ||
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Mikey Red![]() |
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Legend Posts: 17633 ![]() Location: AV is gone | Hijak and Lindgren MIA also | ||
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Legend Posts: 15323 ![]() Location: USA | Mikey Red - 2018-09-26 10:11 AM Tonights game ......I guess Lindquist and Meskanen are hype Yeah I don't think anyone expected them to make the NHL roster out of the gate. Same with Hajek and Lindgren. Some AHL will do all of them some good. Even this year where there are spots available, there are always fewer spots than prospects. I'm encouraged that Lettieri and Pionk are still around. TD has been better than I expected(not saying much) as has Crawley been a nice surprise, for the second training camp in a row. Gettinger has played well, Belesky was doing better than I thought (RIP) and Howden has been good also (but definitely needs AHL time) Personally I'd like to see the Rangers divest themselves of a "veteran" forward and a defenseman to make a little more room. If nothing else it'll be cheaper and you can get a future asset. | ||
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![]() Legend Posts: 12886 ![]() Location: New Jersey | Meskanen had a decent showing... Lindqvist did not | ||
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Mikey Red![]() |
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Legend Posts: 17633 ![]() Location: AV is gone | Tonights lineup GOALTENDERS Tokarski Georgiev SKATERS McLeod Hayes Fast Shattenkirk Vesey Schneider Lindqvist Fogarty Smith Hajek O’Gara Howden Andersson McQuaid Lindgren Meskanen Namestnikov Lettieri | ||
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Mikey Red![]() |
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Legend Posts: 17633 ![]() Location: AV is gone | I guess Gropp is not loved...heatl in the press box again | ||
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![]() Publisher Posts: 68225 ![]() Location: USA | Mikey Red - 2018-09-27 7:34 AM I guess Gropp is not loved...heatl in the press box again Not surprising in my mind, seems to me he's really at best an AHLer at this point | ||
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Mikey Red![]() |
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Legend Posts: 17633 ![]() Location: AV is gone | Fish - 2018-09-27 10:47 AM Mikey Red - 2018-09-27 7:34 AM I guess Gropp is not loved...heatl in the press box again Not surprising in my mind, seems to me he's really at best an AHLer at this point I would sure rather see Gropp tonight than Lindqist | ||
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Mikey Red![]() |
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Legend Posts: 17633 ![]() Location: AV is gone | No TD again....interesting | ||
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Mikey Red![]() |
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Legend Posts: 17633 ![]() Location: AV is gone | OFFICIAL: #NYR have made the following changes to the #NYRTC roster: Fontaine, Gettinger, Gilmour, and Gropp have been assigned to @WolfPackAHL. Butler and Melanson, have been released from their respective Tryouts and will join the Wolf Pack Training Camp. | ||
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![]() Publisher Posts: 68225 ![]() Location: USA | Thought Gilnour and Gettinger would go down with the rest of them, but guess they will have a day or so head start | ||
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Legend Posts: 15323 ![]() Location: USA | robstones - 2018-09-26 5:56 PM Meskanen had a decent showing... Lindqvist did not Meskanen at least brought some energy to his game. Lindqvist was wholly forgettable. | ||
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Legend Posts: 15323 ![]() Location: USA | Mikey Red - 2018-09-27 12:40 PM OFFICIAL: #NYR have made the following changes to the #NYRTC roster: Fontaine, Gettinger, Gilmour, and Gropp have been assigned to @WolfPackAHL. Butler and Melanson, have been released from their respective Tryouts and will join the Wolf Pack Training Camp. No surprises here. Gettinger and Gilmour at least built a good case and reputation for themselves and put themselves in line for an injury callup. | ||
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Mikey Red![]() |
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Legend Posts: 17633 ![]() Location: AV is gone | concust - 2018-09-27 5:07 PM robstones - 2018-09-26 5:56 PM Meskanen had a decent showing... Lindqvist did not Meskanen at least brought some energy to his game. Lindqvist was wholly forgettable. Very good question to ask what Lindqvist is still doing up here | ||
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Vua![]() |
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All-Star Posts: 1951 ![]() | Mikey Red - 2018-09-27 11:40 AM OFFICIAL: #NYR have made the following changes to the #NYRTC roster: Fontaine, Gettinger, Gilmour, and Gropp have been assigned to @WolfPackAHL. Butler and Melanson, have been released from their respective Tryouts and will join the Wolf Pack Training Camp. Gropp is sent down? Did Dump predict he'd be great? | ||
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Rranger![]() |
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MVP Posts: 5635 ![]() | No surprises, although the two so called big Swedish league signings should have both went with them. | ||
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Mikey Red![]() |
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Legend Posts: 17633 ![]() Location: AV is gone | Vua - 2018-09-27 5:56 PM Mikey Red - 2018-09-27 11:40 AM OFFICIAL: #NYR have made the following changes to the #NYRTC roster: Fontaine, Gettinger, Gilmour, and Gropp have been assigned to @WolfPackAHL. Butler and Melanson, have been released from their respective Tryouts and will join the Wolf Pack Training Camp. Gropp is sent down? Did Dump predict he'd be great? hahahahaha | ||
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Mikey Red![]() |
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Legend Posts: 17633 ![]() Location: AV is gone | Rranger - 2018-09-27 6:04 PM No surprises, although the two so called big Swedish league signings should have both went with them. 100% | ||
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All-Star Posts: 1951 ![]() | Mikey Red - 2018-09-27 4:07 PM Vua - 2018-09-27 5:56 PM Mikey Red - 2018-09-27 11:40 AM OFFICIAL: #NYR have made the following changes to the #NYRTC roster: Fontaine, Gettinger, Gilmour, and Gropp have been assigned to @WolfPackAHL. Butler and Melanson, have been released from their respective Tryouts and will join the Wolf Pack Training Camp. Gropp is sent down? Did Dump predict he'd be great? hahahahaha Oh look what we have here. We'll probably never see the guy again. itsmcilrathtime - 2017-07-23 5:24 PM McIlrath was screwed over by our pansy coach who thinks all defenseman have to pass and that physical play means nothing. Thus, why the slot is always filled with forwards in front of Hank. We also didn't give away Hagelin for free you imbecile. We used that pick to get Gropp. Gropp has the potential to be a big time, forward for us down the line. Hagelin got 4 million a season. He's a role player. Nothing more. He sucked this year. He sucked offensively for our team in the playoffs. | ||
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Mikey Red![]() |
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Legend Posts: 17633 ![]() Location: AV is gone | Vua - 2018-09-27 6:08 PM Mikey Red - 2018-09-27 4:07 PM Vua - 2018-09-27 5:56 PM Mikey Red - 2018-09-27 11:40 AM OFFICIAL: #NYR have made the following changes to the #NYRTC roster: Fontaine, Gettinger, Gilmour, and Gropp have been assigned to @WolfPackAHL. Butler and Melanson, have been released from their respective Tryouts and will join the Wolf Pack Training Camp. Gropp is sent down? Did Dump predict he'd be great? hahahahaha Oh look what we have here. We'll probably never see the guy again. itsmcilrathtime - 2017-07-23 5:24 PM McIlrath was screwed over by our pansy coach who thinks all defenseman have to pass and that physical play means nothing. Thus, why the slot is always filled with forwards in front of Hank. We also didn't give away Hagelin for free you imbecile. We used that pick to get Gropp. Gropp has the potential to be a big time, forward for us down the line. Hagelin got 4 million a season. He's a role player. Nothing more. He sucked this year. He sucked offensively for our team in the playoffs. Wooooooo | ||
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Steady Eddie![]() |
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MVP Posts: 7464 ![]() | Vua - 2018-09-27 6:08 PM LOL Mikey Red - 2018-09-27 4:07 PM Vua - 2018-09-27 5:56 PM Mikey Red - 2018-09-27 11:40 AM OFFICIAL: #NYR have made the following changes to the #NYRTC roster: Fontaine, Gettinger, Gilmour, and Gropp have been assigned to @WolfPackAHL. Butler and Melanson, have been released from their respective Tryouts and will join the Wolf Pack Training Camp. Gropp is sent down? Did Dump predict he'd be great? hahahahaha Oh look what we have here. We'll probably never see the guy again. itsmcilrathtime - 2017-07-23 5:24 PM McIlrath was screwed over by our pansy coach who thinks all defenseman have to pass and that physical play means nothing. Thus, why the slot is always filled with forwards in front of Hank. We also didn't give away Hagelin for free you imbecile. We used that pick to get Gropp. Gropp has the potential to be a big time, forward for us down the line. Hagelin got 4 million a season. He's a role player. Nothing more. He sucked this year. He sucked offensively for our team in the playoffs. | ||
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