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concust
Posted 2018-09-17 9:20 AM (#709233)
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Where do you think the Rangers finish this next season?

Vote according to the point value, (the description in parentheses are ballpark descriptions of the type of team)
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concust
Posted 2018-09-17 9:22 AM (#709234 - in reply to #709233)
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I think this is a bottom-5 team easily. Hank can't mask deficiencies as well as he did earlier in his career, and he's lost a step. The defense is patchwork and is easily one of the worst in the league. Up front we have maybe 6 legit forwards and 12 spots. Add to all of this the uncertainty of playing a bunch of kids, under a rookie head coach... and hello, lottery!

I will also say I'm much more excited for this season than I was for last.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-09-17 9:29 AM (#709235 - in reply to #709233)
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Its gonna be a long Season....I see more selling
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Posted 2018-09-17 9:36 AM (#709237 - in reply to #709235)
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Mikey Red - 2018-09-17 10:29 AM

Its gonna be a long Season....I see more selling


It'll be a long season if you expect a bunch of wins. But if a couple kids come in and establish themselves and make legitimate cases for NHL jobs... the future will be bright, especially when you consider Kravtsov/Shestyorkin/Rykov aren't even in the equation at this point. Plus if we finish in the bottom 5 that's a blue chip pick come June, and Hayes might get dealt (possibly Zucc and some others?) so that means more young players/prospects.

Future is bright if you look farther than a season or two.

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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-09-17 9:54 AM (#709239 - in reply to #709237)
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Mikey Red - 2018-09-17 10:29 AM

Its gonna be a long Season....I see more selling


It'll be a long season if you expect a bunch of wins. But if a couple kids come in and establish themselves and make legitimate cases for NHL jobs... the future will be bright, especially when you consider Kravtsov/Shestyorkin/Rykov aren't even in the equation at this point. Plus if we finish in the bottom 5 that's a blue chip pick come June, and Hayes might get dealt (possibly Zucc and some others?) so that means more young players/prospects.

Future is bright if you look farther than a season or two.


Yep that is my hope for the Season
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robstones
Posted 2018-09-17 10:30 AM (#709240 - in reply to #709233)
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The mentality is on development... so that's how we have to look at it.

We're starting at the bottom, so there's no sense in getting all bent when mistakes happen.

I'm meassuring this team on character and compete level, while looking forward to seeing guys like Andersson and Chytil evolve as players.

This team can be good if Quinn can maximize their potential.

The line of Kreider Zibanejad Buchnevich was good last year, but there is a possibility that all 3 players have career best seasons this year. I'm really interested in seeing what Chris Kreider will be while being encouraged to be physical. Zibanejad too for that matter....

Quinn said in an interview yesterday that it may take a while for players to learn the new system. To me that means he's making major changes. What we saw from The Rangers last year means nothing.

The point of this year is to establish a new culture. Some will adapt and flourish in the new system, and embody the new culture... some won't... Kevin Hayes and his 1 year show me contract will be the prime example of that. Either he gets extended because he becomes a better player under Quinn... or not....
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2018-09-17 7:37 PM (#709382 - in reply to #709233)
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Let's see, new coach with no NHL experience, a lot of new players, a lot of young players, a new system to learn & play, a starting goalie on the wrong side of 35 with best seasons behind him ... yeah it will be a long season.

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Steady Eddie
Posted 2018-09-19 5:06 AM (#709424 - in reply to #709233)
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It's not in this team's DNA to finish bottom 5. I envision something more like last season. We are in or close to a playoff spot through half of the season, then a couple of injuries to key players and Hank's age catching up with him. 77 points, same as last season.

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Posted 2018-09-21 8:54 PM (#709566 - in reply to #709233)
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Lottery win and finally #1 draft pick.
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Rranger
Posted 2018-09-23 7:34 PM (#709624 - in reply to #709233)
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I think a better time to predict is after they pick their team. They could go in a lot of different directions although I would think they will ice their best lineup possible and be veteran loaded. Any possible chance of competing for a playoff spot will require a fast start, and a battle all season. They will need a total team effort to do it and I dont think it’s impossible for them to make the playoffs. A lot rides on Quinn’s coaching, I like what I’ve read of his philosophy, if it translates to the ice, they will suprise. But if they start dumping a vet or two after camp well then all bets are off.
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2018-09-24 10:40 AM (#709642 - in reply to #709233)
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https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/the-hockey-news-2018-19-seaso...
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-09-24 10:49 AM (#709643 - in reply to #709642)
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I wonder if that writer actually watches hockey
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Posted 2018-09-25 7:23 AM (#709787 - in reply to #709233)
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Analyzing the Rangers’ crucial roster decisions
By Larry Brooks
September 25, 2018 | 12:13am
http://www.outsidethegarden.com/boards/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=3...

"What about Jimmy Vesey, you say? What about Vladislav Namestnikov? That’s what Quinn might be wondering. For while it is always difficult to evaluate veterans in camp because they tend to approach things on their own timetable, but neither Vesey nor Namestnikov have looked anywhere good enough to have cemented a top-nine role. Indeed, if not for their names and résumés, neither has done much at all to earn a roster spot. Both need to pick it up".

interesting indeed !
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2018-09-25 11:30 AM (#709798 - in reply to #709233)
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Posted 2018-09-26 8:06 AM (#709806 - in reply to #709233)
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Posted 2018-09-26 1:49 PM (#709831 - in reply to #709806)
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Lots of variables
New coach is a positive
If Quinn's d system works it takes pressure off Hank/georg - lower goals against. This also assumes Shatty and Smith can play to a reasonable level
The offense is a question - if they cannot score goals it increases pressure on the D/goalie and we get to hold our breathe every night watching them try and hold a 1-0 lead - like some of the Torts years

Any injuries to key guys will sink them
Will Buch, Names, and even Vesey step up and can Zib play a whole season?
They might not be an overly physical team, but they will fight back and no longer take the beating and skate away

Due to the NHL points system - they could be close enough to be in the hunt for the last spot in the playoffs or just below
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itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2018-09-28 7:53 AM (#710093 - in reply to #709233)
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The defense isn't close to being one of the nhl's worst. You're freakin clueless. Shattenkirk, Staal, Smith, McQuaid, Skjei and Pionk have the ability to easily be in the upper half of defense cores without the retarded system AV was using. Even better if Hajek gets in there for Staal. Skjei and Smith are not going to play like they did last year. Pionk looks like the real deal so far. Shattenkirk is what he is. Average on D, outstanding on the PP. That being said, you still have Andersson, Chytil, Lettieri and Pionk having to learn the ropes at the NHL level. I think they finish around .500 if they are healthy. If Vesey and Buchnevich play well and they get 40 point seasons from Spooner and Namestnikov, they might finish above .500. I also think the PP has a chance to be real solid this year and that will help they win a lot more games. This will not be a team drafting in the top 5. Forget about it.

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Posted 2018-10-01 11:41 AM (#710166 - in reply to #709233)
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Posted 2018-10-01 2:42 PM (#710171 - in reply to #710093)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2018-09-28 9:53 AM

The defense isn't close to being one of the nhl's worst. You're freakin clueless. Shattenkirk, Staal, Smith, McQuaid, Skjei and Pionk have the ability to easily be in the upper half of defense cores without the retarded system AV was using. Even better if Hajek gets in there for Staal. Skjei and Smith are not going to play like they did last year. Pionk looks like the real deal so far. Shattenkirk is what he is. Average on D, outstanding on the PP. That being said, you still have Andersson, Chytil, Lettieri and Pionk having to learn the ropes at the NHL level. I think they finish around .500 if they are healthy. If Vesey and Buchnevich play well and they get 40 point seasons from Spooner and Namestnikov, they might finish above .500. I also think the PP has a chance to be real solid this year and that will help they win a lot more games. This will not be a team drafting in the top 5. Forget about it.



Hard to say for sure. There's too many question marks.

But there's definitely worse defenses on many other teams around the league.

There is potential to be a playoff team. If they are in the mix, I could see them being aggressive for Panarin at the deadline.

The Rangers' depth at center is now a trading block strength. Andersson is down in Hartford for now, but everyone could prove deserving of the ice time in the NHL.

Everyone meaning
Hayes, Chytil, Howden, and Andersson

One of them could prove valueable, but expendable.
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concust
Posted 2018-10-01 2:51 PM (#710172 - in reply to #710171)
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robstones - 2018-10-01 3:42 PM

itsmcilrathtime - 2018-09-28 9:53 AM

The defense isn't close to being one of the nhl's worst. You're freakin clueless. Shattenkirk, Staal, Smith, McQuaid, Skjei and Pionk have the ability to easily be in the upper half of defense cores without the retarded system AV was using. Even better if Hajek gets in there for Staal. Skjei and Smith are not going to play like they did last year. Pionk looks like the real deal so far. Shattenkirk is what he is. Average on D, outstanding on the PP. That being said, you still have Andersson, Chytil, Lettieri and Pionk having to learn the ropes at the NHL level. I think they finish around .500 if they are healthy. If Vesey and Buchnevich play well and they get 40 point seasons from Spooner and Namestnikov, they might finish above .500. I also think the PP has a chance to be real solid this year and that will help they win a lot more games. This will not be a team drafting in the top 5. Forget about it.



Hard to say for sure. There's too many question marks.

But there's definitely worse defenses on many other teams around the league.

There is potential to be a playoff team. If they are in the mix, I could see them being aggressive for Panarin at the deadline.

The Rangers' depth at center is now a trading block strength. Andersson is down in Hartford for now, but everyone could prove deserving of the ice time in the NHL.

Everyone meaning
Hayes, Chytil, Howden, and Andersson

One of them could prove valueable, but expendable.


Based on what's been reported I don't see any reason to go after Panarin at the deadline. If there's so much mutual interest then just sign him in July and you don't have to give up anything. Playoffs or not I don't see them giving up assets unless they think they're legitimately among the group of favorites to win. If the Rangers squeak into the playoffs, and they have to give up Howden and first for Panarin to make a run, I don't see them doing it. No way.

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Pierre_Pdare
Posted 2018-10-04 9:24 AM (#710219 - in reply to #709233)
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I am expecting this to be a bad team and hoping I am wrong....


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Posted 2018-10-04 9:41 AM (#710220 - in reply to #710172)
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concust - 2018-10-01 4:51 PM

robstones - 2018-10-01 3:42 PM

itsmcilrathtime - 2018-09-28 9:53 AM

The defense isn't close to being one of the nhl's worst. You're freakin clueless. Shattenkirk, Staal, Smith, McQuaid, Skjei and Pionk have the ability to easily be in the upper half of defense cores without the retarded system AV was using. Even better if Hajek gets in there for Staal. Skjei and Smith are not going to play like they did last year. Pionk looks like the real deal so far. Shattenkirk is what he is. Average on D, outstanding on the PP. That being said, you still have Andersson, Chytil, Lettieri and Pionk having to learn the ropes at the NHL level. I think they finish around .500 if they are healthy. If Vesey and Buchnevich play well and they get 40 point seasons from Spooner and Namestnikov, they might finish above .500. I also think the PP has a chance to be real solid this year and that will help they win a lot more games. This will not be a team drafting in the top 5. Forget about it.



Hard to say for sure. There's too many question marks.

But there's definitely worse defenses on many other teams around the league.

There is potential to be a playoff team. If they are in the mix, I could see them being aggressive for Panarin at the deadline.

The Rangers' depth at center is now a trading block strength. Andersson is down in Hartford for now, but everyone could prove deserving of the ice time in the NHL.

Everyone meaning
Hayes, Chytil, Howden, and Andersson

One of them could prove valueable, but expendable.


Based on what's been reported I don't see any reason to go after Panarin at the deadline. If there's so much mutual interest then just sign him in July and you don't have to give up anything. Playoffs or not I don't see them giving up assets unless they think they're legitimately among the group of favorites to win. If the Rangers squeak into the playoffs, and they have to give up Howden and first for Panarin to make a run, I don't see them doing it. No way.



Yeah if he definitely wants to be here, no doubt wait... we could be one of a few places he'd like to be. Depends on how much he truly wants to be here
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itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2018-10-08 7:57 AM (#710853 - in reply to #709233)
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Let me change my thoughts. They fukkkking suck and will finish in the bottom 5.
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Pierre_Pdare
Posted 2018-10-11 3:58 PM (#710994 - in reply to #710219)
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Pierre_Pdare - 2018-10-04 11:24 AM

I am expecting this to be a bad team and hoping I am wrong....




So far I am right and have slim hope of being wrong.

Henk will be gone this year and I hope he takes everybody with him/ Right now I can't see positives. And this they work hard BS is getting a little played out. Hard work doesn't mean **** without results.
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2018-10-11 4:14 PM (#710995 - in reply to #709233)
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Ha ha Ranger fans, NY fans are willing to accept rebuilding, ha ha only took 3 games calling for people's heads, management incompetence, trade every one.
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Posted 2018-10-11 5:02 PM (#711017 - in reply to #710995)
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LeetchyMrRanger - 2018-10-11 6:14 PM

Ha ha Ranger fans, NY fans are willing to accept rebuilding, ha ha only took 3 games calling for people's heads, management incompetence, trade every one.


Brand new system with all sorts of new players and rookies.... no excuses
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2018-10-11 5:08 PM (#711028 - in reply to #709233)
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Yeah, rebuilds don't last 3 games or 1 season.
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2018-10-11 6:29 PM (#711143 - in reply to #709233)
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Maloney said he doesn't see any captain material in this group of players yet.
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Posted 2018-10-11 7:46 PM (#711218 - in reply to #711143)
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LeetchyMrRanger - 2018-10-11 5:29 PM

Maloney said he doesn't see any captain material in this group of players yet.




It would be wise to see if one evolves, rather than pick the wrong one now.
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Posted 2018-10-12 5:40 AM (#711234 - in reply to #711218)
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Rranger - 2018-10-11 9:46 PM

LeetchyMrRanger - 2018-10-11 5:29 PM

Maloney said he doesn't see any captain material in this group of players yet.




It would be wise to see if one evolves, rather than pick the wrong one now.

I think the Rangers made a mistake. They should have given Zucc the C on opening night. The crowd would have gone nuts. I know he probably gets traded at the deadline this year, but so what. We traded our C at the deadline last year. In fact, our history with captains is not a good one. Zucc has more heart than the rest of the team. He deserves it.
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Posted 2018-10-12 11:36 AM (#711243 - in reply to #711234)
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Steady Eddie - 2018-10-12 6:40 AM

Rranger - 2018-10-11 9:46 PM

LeetchyMrRanger - 2018-10-11 5:29 PM

Maloney said he doesn't see any captain material in this group of players yet.




It would be wise to see if one evolves, rather than pick the wrong one now.

I think the Rangers made a mistake. They should have given Zucc the C on opening night. The crowd would have gone nuts. I know he probably gets traded at the deadline this year, but so what. We traded our C at the deadline last year. In fact, our history with captains is not a good one. Zucc has more heart than the rest of the team. He deserves it.


I agree. But if you get the Rangers C you better call your real estate agent.
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2018-10-17 7:47 PM (#711752 - in reply to #709233)
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After the Craps game so far (I can still call them, Craps, right):

Buch: about time to start showing something more consistenly
Hayes: I prefer Jenna Haze
Namestikov: I need Stammer here
Spooner: put a fork in him


Edited by LeetchyMrRanger 2018-10-17 7:48 PM
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-10-17 7:52 PM (#711753 - in reply to #711752)
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LeetchyMrRanger - 2018-10-17 9:47 PM

After the Craps game so far (I can still call them, Craps, right):

Buch: about time to start showing something more consistenly
Hayes: I prefer Jenna Haze
Namestikov: I need Stammer here
Spooner: put a fork in him

hahahaha lol lol
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