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RANGERNUT
Posted 2018-10-22 12:14 PM (#711897)
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Last week, Sportsnet's Chris Johnson noted that the Rangers were one of four teams that had two scouts in Toronto watching the Penguins and Leafs.
It was revealed this morning that Leafs GM Kyle Dubas was at last night's Flames/Rangers game.

Dreger noted that general speculation would suggest that the Leafs are looking at one of the Rangers defensemen but that he isn't sure which player would "automatically help the Leafs." (TSN 1050)

On the Rangers in general, Dreger said (TSN 1050):
•"I think the Rangers are willing to consider just about anything because they are in the midst of a renovation."
•The Rangers would potentially be interested in trying to move Mats Zuccarello or Kevin Hayes
•The Leafs kicked tires on Ranger defenseman last season but things "pretty much stopped" when the Rangers asked for Kasperi Kapanen.

TSN host and former NHLer Carlo Colaiacovo said that he "loves the idea" of the Leafs adding, his former teammate, Kevin Shattenkirk. (TSN 1050)


https://www.sny.tv/rangers/news/is-there-anything-going-on-with-the-...

something brewin ?

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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-10-22 12:24 PM (#711898 - in reply to #711897)
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Posted 2018-10-22 12:26 PM (#711900 - in reply to #711897)
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Shattenkirk would do good on the Leafs because of the fact he wouldnt have to be the Man
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Posted 2018-10-22 1:09 PM (#711901 - in reply to #711897)
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I like Shattenkirk on any team as long as it's not the Rangers
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Posted 2018-10-22 1:17 PM (#711902 - in reply to #711901)
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Rangerjunkie - 2018-10-22 3:09 PM

I like Shattenkirk on any team as long as it's not the Rangers

#me too
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Posted 2018-10-22 3:17 PM (#711903 - in reply to #711902)
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Mikey Red - 2018-10-22 1:17 PM

Rangerjunkie - 2018-10-22 3:09 PM

I like Shattenkirk on any team as long as it's not the Rangers

#me too


Hahahaha

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Posted 2018-10-22 3:22 PM (#711904 - in reply to #711897)
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Nylander for McLeod and Staal
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Posted 2018-10-22 6:56 PM (#711905 - in reply to #711904)
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concust - 2018-10-22 5:22 PM

Nylander for McLeod and Staal

Gorton should get fired if he does that!
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Posted 2018-10-22 7:44 PM (#711906 - in reply to #711897)
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Stall couldn't get out of here fast enough to get to Toronto. Eat a portion of his salary get a couple of kids from Toronto and see ya later Staalsy. But if they are stupid enough to want Shattenkirk, same deal applies.
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Posted 2018-10-22 7:58 PM (#711907 - in reply to #711897)
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Staal should not be a regular in the lineup...Then JG goes out and gets McQuaid who has no business in the lineup either
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Posted 2018-10-23 7:45 AM (#711910 - in reply to #711897)
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Yes, I think something huge is brewing. The Leafs have to sign Matthews and a couple other guys soon. They need to get talented assets that will be cheap for a while or they are screwed. Skjei money could be an issue for them. I will gladly send Buchnevich to them. I'm figuring they have to be looking at either Smith with half retained or Pionk. I'm much rather it was Skjei and Buchnevich. Hainsey is off the books next year. They can buy out Marleau and Horton who will have 1 year on their contracts after this season. That probably could save them 6+ million. They could afford Skjei. However, looking at their roster they badly need a right handed, puck moving defenseman. I sure as heck don't think they want Shattenkirk. Outside chance they want McQuaid who will be a UFA next year. However, if they give up Nylander, I would have to think they want a player they can keep around. Pionk plays every game and ADA is sitting which makes me think the Rangers might be showcasing him even though he does deserve to play. I don't see Buchnevich or Pionk getting more than 2.5 million next year. That trade makes some sense for the Leafs. Might have to throw in a player like Spooner as well who will be a UFA.


Spooner, Buchnevich, Pionk for Nylander. Get it done Gorton. Personally, I think Pionk will be pretty damn good at 25-26. So I value him a lot.

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Posted 2018-10-23 7:49 AM (#711911 - in reply to #711897)
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I wonder how much Nylander benefited from the Matthews effect...He is going to demand some serious scratch
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Posted 2018-10-23 9:02 AM (#711914 - in reply to #711911)
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Mikey Red - 2018-10-23 6:49 AM

I wonder how much Nylander benefited from the Matthews effect...He is going to demand some serious scratch




Very good points. For a team in the position of the Rangers the way back to the top is by first acquiring a franchise centerman, or at least a Stepan that could hold his own against one. Continue building down the middle and build the D at the same time Ufa'ing, drafting or trading for the best available at both positions, until you have one. For all the criticism Stepan was a second round gem, and in hindsight would still be helping the Rangers more than a hot and cold Zib, but he lost out in the cap game. To me Nylander would come here at great expense and be lost without a elite centerman to play with, until he proves otherwise. Sadly the Rangers would probably roll the dice.
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Posted 2018-10-23 9:07 AM (#711916 - in reply to #711914)
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Mikey Red - 2018-10-23 6:49 AM

I wonder how much Nylander benefited from the Matthews effect...He is going to demand some serious scratch




Very good points. For a team in the position of the Rangers the way back to the top is by first acquiring a franchise centerman, or at least a Stepan that could hold his own against one. Continue building down the middle and build the D at the same time Ufa'ing, drafting or trading for the best available at both positions, until you have one. For all the criticism Stepan was a second round gem, and in hindsight would still be helping the Rangers more than a hot and cold Zib, but he lost out in the cap game. To me Nylander would come here at great expense and be lost without a elite centerman to play with, until he proves otherwise. Sadly the Rangers would probably roll the dice.

Yep totally....and Stepans fate was sealed when he told Henrik to relax lol
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Posted 2018-10-23 10:22 AM (#711917 - in reply to #711916)
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Mikey Red - 2018-10-23 6:49 AM

I wonder how much Nylander benefited from the Matthews effect...He is going to demand some serious scratch




Very good points. For a team in the position of the Rangers the way back to the top is by first acquiring a franchise centerman, or at least a Stepan that could hold his own against one. Continue building down the middle and build the D at the same time Ufa'ing, drafting or trading for the best available at both positions, until you have one. For all the criticism Stepan was a second round gem, and in hindsight would still be helping the Rangers more than a hot and cold Zib, but he lost out in the cap game. To me Nylander would come here at great expense and be lost without a elite centerman to play with, until he proves otherwise. Sadly the Rangers would probably roll the dice.


Yep totally....and Stepans fate was sealed when he told Henrik to relax lol





I'd be more inclined to believe Lundqvist and Rangers eat 3.5 mill for the next three for Anderson and a pick and a piece. If might be the best path out of Lundqvist's remaining and what will be the wasted last three years here. It gets his best case scenario cup shots and the Rangers wait for the Russian with Anderson to help him when he gets here.

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Posted 2018-10-23 10:42 AM (#711918 - in reply to #711897)
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Trading Andersson would be a huge mistake. Essentially he's going to be a 55 point version of Fast. You can't possibly have enough guys like that on your team.
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Posted 2018-10-23 10:56 AM (#711919 - in reply to #711897)
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I think R is suggesting Henrik to the Leafs for the Leafs Anderson a pick and a piece
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Posted 2018-10-23 11:00 AM (#711920 - in reply to #711897)
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Spooner just signed a 2 year contract for $4mill/year.
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Posted 2018-10-23 11:20 AM (#711921 - in reply to #711897)
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Posted 2018-10-23 11:38 AM (#711922 - in reply to #711897)
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Dubas was also at Avs/Flyers last night, so he may just happen to be the GM of an NHL team that watches hockey games occasionally.
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Posted 2018-10-23 1:24 PM (#711923 - in reply to #711919)
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Mikey Red - 2018-10-23 9:56 AM

I think R is suggesting Henrik to the Leafs for the Leafs Anderson a pick and a piece







That was obvious.
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Posted 2018-10-23 1:28 PM (#711924 - in reply to #711923)
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Mikey Red - 2018-10-23 9:56 AM

I think R is suggesting Henrik to the Leafs for the Leafs Anderson a pick and a piece







That was obvious.

lol
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Posted 2018-10-23 2:57 PM (#711925 - in reply to #711897)
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Zuccarello,Hayes,Kreider & Zibanejad all can go and should go this coming trade deadline.
They have too much pride to hassle along our young players.
It’s like an aristocrat who doesn’t fart in public (but they did ,someone said he heard it)
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Posted 2018-10-23 3:01 PM (#711926 - in reply to #711925)
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Blue404 - 2018-10-23 4:57 PM

Zuccarello,Hayes,Kreider & Zibanejad all can go and should go this coming trade deadline.
They have too much pride to hassle along our young players.
It’s like an aristocrat who doesn’t fart in public (but they did ,someone said he heard it)

I dig it
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Posted 2018-10-23 3:07 PM (#711927 - in reply to #711897)
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Posted 2018-10-23 6:06 PM (#712000 - in reply to #711897)
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Nylander for Shattenkirk or Staal would be a dream

Kreider Zibanejad Nylander would own souls

Edited by robstones 2018-10-23 6:08 PM
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Posted 2018-10-24 7:30 AM (#712146 - in reply to #712000)
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robstones - 2018-10-23 7:06 PM

Nylander for Shattenkirk or Staal would be a dream

Kreider Zibanejad Nylander would own souls


Not that I think anything is going to happen, BUT, Dec 1 is the deadline for Nylander to sign, and be able to play this year. Otherwise I believe he has to sit out until next year.

He'll sign before then, but if he doesn't, the Rangers and other non-playoff teams could get a reduced price on his rights. While a playoff team isn't going to give up roster assets to get a player who can't play this season, the Rangers (and other non-playoff teams) could - so if it's Dec 2 they could trade Vesey and Shattenkirk to Toronto, retain salary, sign Nylander for 2019-20. Toronto gets NHL players right now, for an asset they couldn't use anyway, NYR free up roster spots to play more kids, and have picked up a useful asset longer-term for next year and beyond.
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Posted 2018-10-24 7:32 AM (#712147 - in reply to #711897)
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If Nylander stays out that long he is Bobby Carpenter all over again
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Posted 2018-10-24 12:08 PM (#712149 - in reply to #711897)
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Matt Beleskey placed on waivers....No we cant use him we are too good...We have Cody....NYR most inept FO in Sports
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Posted 2018-10-24 12:18 PM (#712150 - in reply to #711897)
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Word is Coach Quinn does a lot of yelling at practice....I wonder how long that will fly for
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Posted 2018-10-24 12:23 PM (#712151 - in reply to #712149)
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Mikey Red - 2018-10-24 2:08 PM

Matt Beleskey placed on waivers....No we cant use him we are too good...We have Cody....NYR most inept FO in Sports


I don't think their FO is worse than the Mets, Jets or Giants for that matter!
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Posted 2018-10-24 12:24 PM (#712152 - in reply to #712151)
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Matt Beleskey placed on waivers....No we cant use him we are too good...We have Cody....NYR most inept FO in Sports


I don't think their FO is worse than the Mets, Jets or Giants for that matter!


Forgot to add the Knicks!
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Posted 2018-10-24 12:30 PM (#712153 - in reply to #712152)
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Mikey Red - 2018-10-24 2:08 PM

Matt Beleskey placed on waivers....No we cant use him we are too good...We have Cody....NYR most inept FO in Sports


I don't think their FO is worse than the Mets, Jets or Giants for that matter!


Forgot to add the Knicks!

hahaha debatable but ok Ill just keep it within the hockey....Hey Giants have some SB's tho
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Posted 2018-10-24 1:58 PM (#712159 - in reply to #712151)
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Matt Beleskey placed on waivers....No we cant use him we are too good...We have Cody....NYR most inept FO in Sports


I don't think their FO is worse than the Mets, Jets or Giants for that matter!


Somehow the Knicks did not qualify for this list?

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Posted 2018-10-24 2:25 PM (#712161 - in reply to #711897)
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He included the Knicks lol
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