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itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2019-02-13 5:16 PM (#720143 - in reply to #713253)
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Middelcrap hasn't done dick yet. Andersson has a right to be pissed. Quinn fukkkkkked him over big time. Chytil and Howden went through long stretches doing nothing and he never quit giving them chances. Andersson he spit on. Went back to the pre-season when Andersson took the rest of the pre-season off after his first game. Ehhhh. Who knows. I'm confident he will figure it out around 22. However, I wouldn't rule him being dealt in the right deal either.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2019-02-13 5:29 PM (#720144 - in reply to #713253)
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Something may be up with Lias...maybe he pissed somebody off...Boo came up then Lettieri came up.....To me that is a GFY to Lias
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Vua
Posted 2019-02-14 6:32 AM (#720145 - in reply to #720143)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2019-02-13 5:16 PM

Middelcrap hasn't done dick yet. Andersson has a right to be pissed. Quinn fukkkkkked him over big time. Chytil and Howden went through long stretches doing nothing and he never quit giving them chances. Andersson he spit on. Went back to the pre-season when Andersson took the rest of the pre-season off after his first game. Ehhhh. Who knows. I'm confident he will figure it out around 22. However, I wouldn't rule him being dealt in the right deal either.


Chytil and Howden got pushed down to the fourth line just like Andersson. They responded and played hard. Andersson played like a lump the entire time and got sent down. He deserved it. He did nothing to show he belonged on an NHL roster.
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robstones
Posted 2019-02-14 6:51 AM (#720146 - in reply to #713253)
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I disagree. I like what I've seen from Andersson. He's taken a few penalties. and made some mistakes, but to say he's done nothing is just not true. He's had some good chances. He's made some good plays on both sides of the puck.

He's not there yet, but with just a little improvement and consistency to his game and he'll be a really effective player. There's absolutely no reason to rush him, or put too much pressure on him. This season was a throw away from the get go
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Mikey Red
Posted 2019-02-14 7:13 AM (#720147 - in reply to #720146)
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Maybe he needs to grow up some? does he have a difficult time when he doesnt get what he wants?
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Rranger
Posted 2019-02-14 7:30 AM (#720148 - in reply to #713253)
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Anderssons last callup and play was unacceptable. He made mental mistakes all over the ice, which for a character player can't happen. Mistakes coach's discuss every day. . Very few flashes of anything good. His excuse makers on here will be saying the same things when his ELC runs out if he is still here.. He's not here because he can't beat out Nieves and Lettieri and his underwhelming play leaves Quinn more comfortable playing 7 dmen. The Rangers already blew a year off his ELC contract so no business reason for him not to be on the Rangers roster, just the hockey minds on the Rangers staff don't want him. Hockey minds with a little more moxie than a dope like itsmcilrathstime who suggests the coach doesn't like him ect ect which is laughable.

Edited by Rranger 2019-02-14 9:27 AM
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concust
Posted 2019-02-14 9:41 AM (#720149 - in reply to #713253)
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Andersson was not good when he was here last. Neither has Lettieri been any good on the NHL roster either. Boo has been the most consistent.

Can I also throw out there that Howden has looked lost since Thanksgiving? Prior to his injury, he had 2 points in 2 months after his hot start.

It's weird, it's like young players have more trouble with the consistency needed at an NHL level.

Andersson isn't ready now. At this point let him finish out the season in Hartford and see how he looks in camp next year. He's 20, there is no reason to rush him at all.
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Rranger
Posted 2019-02-14 12:20 PM (#720154 - in reply to #720149)
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concust - 2019-02-14 8:41 AM

Andersson was not good when he was here last. Neither has Lettieri been any good on the NHL roster either. Boo has been the most consistent.

Can I also throw out there that Howden has looked lost since Thanksgiving? Prior to his injury, he had 2 points in 2 months after his hot start.

It's weird, it's like young players have more trouble with the consistency needed at an NHL level.

Andersson isn't ready now. At this point let him finish out the season in Hartford and see how he looks in camp next year. He's 20, there is no reason to rush him at all.






Lettieri is a telling piece of the Andersson story. The Rangers call him up before Anderson. And I agree he's not much.
Howden is still doing a lot of the little things right. Out to lunch is a stretch. The hardest thing in this league for a young player to do is score. Many rookies cool off as the second half rolls around. But scoring in and of itself is not the defining measurement for a young player like Howden or Andersson, important but using the walk before you run theory, playing sound defense and not being a turnover machine is foremost. Howden has done a nice job of that, Andersson not even close. Even Chytil has not cost the Rangers much defensively, and its why they are in NYC. .
Midlestadt is putting up a few points and obviously holding his on with out the puck or he wouldn't be around. The glaring issue with Andersson I see is the opportunity to be the fourth center and even third on a Howden off night is right in front of him and has been all year. The perfect rookie season breakin, playing a role conducive to him establishing his so called gritty, hard to play against game, hopefully followed up by putting up some numbers after establishing himself. . And nothing buit blanks from the guy.
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robstones
Posted 2019-02-14 5:34 PM (#720156 - in reply to #713253)
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Andersson isn't up now for the same reason he wasn't up at the start of the season.

They'd rather have him playing a bigger role in Hartford, then play on the 4th line.

Buchnevich, Vesey, and Chytil are already in the mix of players that bounce between top 6, and then back down to the 4th line as part of their development process.... sometimes sit out to watch from the stands, only to be given 20 minutes the next time they're in the lineup.

Doing that same thing with Andersson would be impossible. He'd almost always have to be buried on the 4th line...

Brickley.... Lettieri... Boo.... they're guys management isn't worried about calling up and playing 7 minutes in a 4th line role. It doesn't mean they're better players, or just means they're better suited for that role.

The Rangers will make space at the deadline. Andersson wasn't drafted to get buried on the 4th line.

Edited by robstones 2019-02-14 8:59 PM
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Rranger
Posted 2019-02-15 8:28 AM (#720158 - in reply to #713253)
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More excuses Rob, Anderson would be a lot better off being on a NHL fourth line the coach was comfortable giving 10 minutes a night. He's in Hartford because he can't play up to that level to break into the league. You can make up 20 minute TOI games for Buchnevich, Vesey and Chytil all you want. And interesting to note those three don't exactly set a high bar for Andersson to exceed and replace, do they?? There is no reason Andersson can't bump anyone of those three to the fourth line and replace them on a top three line, except the obvious. Andersson can't play in the NHL yet, period.
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x10003q
Posted 2019-02-15 11:09 AM (#720159 - in reply to #720158)
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Rranger - 2019-02-15 10:28 AM

More excuses Rob, Anderson would be a lot better off being on a NHL fourth line the coach was comfortable giving 10 minutes a night. He's in Hartford because he can't play up to that level to break into the league. You can make up 20 minute TOI games for Buchnevich, Vesey and Chytil all you want. And interesting to note those three don't exactly set a high bar for Andersson to exceed and replace, do they?? There is no reason Andersson can't bump anyone of those three to the fourth line and replace them on a top three line, except the obvious. Andersson can't play in the NHL yet, period.


The Vesey bar is much higher than Buch and Chytil. Vesey is much better at both ends of the ice this year. Buch has been uneven at best and Chytil is getting a first round pass due to the occasional superstar highlight. Hartford must be a mess otherwise Chytil would be down there getting 25 minutes a night instead of 14 with the Rangers.

Andersson cannot even replace Strome/Names/Howden/Boo. Boo might never exceed the 4th line, but he seems to be getting a few chances per night despite his under 10 minutes of ice time per night.

The Rangers trying to justify taking Andersson because he was ready has turned into a huge problem because he is clearly not ready. That makes both the Rangers, by extension, Andersson look foolish. He may turn out to be a good choice, but expecting him to make an impact was absurd. The question is - Did the Rangers actually think Andersson could make an impact or did the Rangers just blow smoke up out collective assses?
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Rranger
Posted 2019-02-15 12:00 PM (#720160 - in reply to #720159)
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x10003q - 2019-02-15 10:09 AM

Rranger - 2019-02-15 10:28 AM

More excuses Rob, Anderson would be a lot better off being on a NHL fourth line the coach was comfortable giving 10 minutes a night. He's in Hartford because he can't play up to that level to break into the league. You can make up 20 minute TOI games for Buchnevich, Vesey and Chytil all you want. And interesting to note those three don't exactly set a high bar for Andersson to exceed and replace, do they?? There is no reason Andersson can't bump anyone of those three to the fourth line and replace them on a top three line, except the obvious. Andersson can't play in the NHL yet, period.


The Vesey bar is much higher than Buch and Chytil. Vesey is much better at both ends of the ice this year. Buch has been uneven at best and Chytil is getting a first round pass due to the occasional superstar highlight. Hartford must be a mess otherwise Chytil would be down there getting 25 minutes a night instead of 14 with the Rangers.

Andersson cannot even replace Strome/Names/Howden/Boo. Boo might never exceed the 4th line, but he seems to be getting a few chances per night despite his under 10 minutes of ice time per night.

The Rangers trying to justify taking Andersson because he was ready has turned into a huge problem because he is clearly not ready. That makes both the Rangers, by extension, Andersson look foolish. He may turn out to be a good choice, but expecting him to make an impact was absurd. The question is - Did the Rangers actually think Andersson could make an impact or did the Rangers just blow smoke up out collective assses?




You make a good point there are many Ranger players that Andersson can not take their spot, not just the three mentioned. And yes because he's ready was the message after drafting and right after he fizzled at his first camp, and then the message changed. I wish the kid nothing but success, but his meager progress is concerning.
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