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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2019-04-09 6:49 PM (#724274 - in reply to #722584)
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Unbelievable evening
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Mikey Red
Posted 2019-04-09 6:49 PM (#724275 - in reply to #722584)
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2 might be the better spot...I want Cozens
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Mikey Red
Posted 2019-04-09 6:50 PM (#724276 - in reply to #722584)
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Hughes did not looked too excited
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Posted 2019-04-09 6:52 PM (#724278 - in reply to #722584)
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Hughes and Kakko are can’t miss. Either one can be a #1. Best draft news ever.

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Posted 2019-04-09 6:53 PM (#724279 - in reply to #722584)
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Dammit, the Devils have rigged the system.

So let the speculation begin. If it was the #1, Gorton’s hands would be tied and he’d just draft Hughes. But now that he’s got #2, he can take the popular pick (Kakko) or get creative. Creative picks bring the potential for busts and second-guessing and getting fired. Have fun, Jeff.
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Rranger
Posted 2019-04-09 6:57 PM (#724280 - in reply to #722584)
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Great night for the Rangers for a change . Kakko is real close to Quinn in terms of value. If they covet a Cozens instead of Kakko maybe they flip with Chicago. The Russian is a great player, so the options of holding number 2 are there and it's up to Gorton to maximize the pick.
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Posted 2019-04-09 7:00 PM (#724281 - in reply to #724279)
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PV29 - 2019-04-09 8:53 PM

Dammit, the Devils have rigged the system.

So let the speculation begin. If it was the #1, Gorton’s hands would be tied and he’d just draft Hughes. But now that he’s got #2, he can take the popular pick (Kakko) or get creative. Creative picks bring the potential for busts and second-guessing and getting fired. Have fun, Jeff.


If they take anyone other than Kakko or Hughes, then all management must be fired and Dolan should be forced to sell the team.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2019-04-09 7:09 PM (#724283 - in reply to #722584)
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Hahaha....With the #2 pick the Rangers select Lias Anderssons Brother....or a Goalie
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Mikey Red
Posted 2019-04-09 7:10 PM (#724285 - in reply to #724279)
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PV29 - 2019-04-09 8:53 PM

Dammit, the Devils have rigged the system.

So let the speculation begin. If it was the #1, Gorton’s hands would be tied and he’d just draft Hughes. But now that he’s got #2, he can take the popular pick (Kakko) or get creative. Creative picks bring the potential for busts and second-guessing and getting fired. Have fun, Jeff.

Heck yeah! you probably can't go wrong up to first 7 picks
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Mikey Red
Posted 2019-04-09 7:14 PM (#724286 - in reply to #722584)
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Trade Kreider to Colorado for the #4
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Rranger
Posted 2019-04-09 7:21 PM (#724289 - in reply to #722584)
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Centers and defensemen have the biggest influence on games unless your name is Ovechkin and a few more big time wingers. No defensemen at the top of this draft and wingers rated two and three complicating things if your after a big time center and Cozens and Byam are close. Kakko was a big time player for the World Junior tourney . Hes a stud. Get your jersey now before the price goes up. The Rangers will not over think this one.
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Posted 2019-04-09 7:29 PM (#724292 - in reply to #722584)
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Number 2 is something unreal.Finally we will have some talent here.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2019-04-09 7:35 PM (#724293 - in reply to #722584)
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Rranger
Posted 2019-04-09 7:39 PM (#724297 - in reply to #722584)
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The Rangers finally caught a draft break. It will be interesting to see if the Devils go for the smaller skill center or the power winger. The Rangers can't really lose at number two.
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Posted 2019-04-09 8:33 PM (#724303 - in reply to #722584)
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Best night as a Ranger fan in a long time. We really beat the odds tonight. That was a really lucky bounce.

They can't go off the board on this pick. It's either Hughes or Kakko. Even picking Podkolzin would be a huge risk. By all accounts it's 1 and 2 almost neck and neck, 3 is close behind but a clear 3, and then there's a dropoff for the next tier. Picking in the top 2 and going off the board would be suicide.

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Rranger
Posted 2019-04-09 8:36 PM (#724304 - in reply to #724286)
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Mikey Red - 2019-04-09 6:14 PM

Trade Kreider to Colorado for the #4



Man if they could trade Kreider in a deal for that pick and come out of the draft with Kakko and Cozens. :

Edited by Rranger 2019-04-09 9:04 PM
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Posted 2019-04-09 9:02 PM (#724305 - in reply to #724304)
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Mikey Red - 2019-04-09 6:14 PM

Trade Kreider to Colorado for the #4



Man if they could trade Kreider in a deal for that pick and come out of the draft with Kakko and Cozens.


Kreider playing with Mackinnon would be pretty incredible. If he played on Mackinnon's wing he probably fulfills his 40-goal potential.

One thing I do if I'm Jeff Gorton is call up Carolina and play hardball. Fox for Pionk and a third, take it or leave it. And then leak the proposed deal to the media so they know if they don't take it there will be regret next summer when he goes UFA and they lose him for nothing.
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Rranger
Posted 2019-04-09 9:09 PM (#724307 - in reply to #724305)
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Mikey Red - 2019-04-09 6:14 PM

Trade Kreider to Colorado for the #4



Man if they could trade Kreider in a deal for that pick and come out of the draft with Kakko and Cozens.


Kreider playing with Mackinnon would be pretty incredible. If he played on Mackinnon's wing he probably fulfills his 40-goal potential.

One thing I do if I'm Jeff Gorton is call up Carolina and play hardball. Fox for Pionk and a third, take it or leave it. And then leak the proposed deal to the media so they know if they don't take it there will be regret next summer when he goes UFA and they lose him for nothing.



As long as Fox is playing hardball with the Rangers being his only choice, but I read a bit of a interview with him the other day and hes focused on best opportunity to play in the NHL so he may have another team or two on his ok list. It will be interesting g to see how all that plays out.
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Posted 2019-04-09 9:17 PM (#724309 - in reply to #724307)
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Rranger - 2019-04-09 10:09 PM

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Mikey Red - 2019-04-09 6:14 PM

Trade Kreider to Colorado for the #4



Man if they could trade Kreider in a deal for that pick and come out of the draft with Kakko and Cozens.


Kreider playing with Mackinnon would be pretty incredible. If he played on Mackinnon's wing he probably fulfills his 40-goal potential.

One thing I do if I'm Jeff Gorton is call up Carolina and play hardball. Fox for Pionk and a third, take it or leave it. And then leak the proposed deal to the media so they know if they don't take it there will be regret next summer when he goes UFA and they lose him for nothing.



As long as Fox is playing hardball with the Rangers being his only choice, but I read a bit of a interview with him the other day and hes focused on best opportunity to play in the NHL so he may have another team or two on his ok list. It will be interesting g to see how all that plays out.


That may be the case but still drastically limits Carolina's options. I'd be thrilled to get Fox at a discount, or wait another year and get him for free, but if he wants to sign somewhere else I'm not too broken up about it.. And honestly I don't see how another team in the league would be able to give him more/better opportunity than the rebuilding Rangers at this point.

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Rranger
Posted 2019-04-09 9:25 PM (#724310 - in reply to #724309)
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Mikey Red - 2019-04-09 6:14 PM

Trade Kreider to Colorado for the #4



Man if they could trade Kreider in a deal for that pick and come out of the draft with Kakko and Cozens.


Kreider playing with Mackinnon would be pretty incredible. If he played on Mackinnon's wing he probably fulfills his 40-goal potential.

One thing I do if I'm Jeff Gorton is call up Carolina and play hardball. Fox for Pionk and a third, take it or leave it. And then leak the proposed deal to the media so they know if they don't take it there will be regret next summer when he goes UFA and they lose him for nothing.



As long as Fox is playing hardball with the Rangers being his only choice, but I read a bit of a interview with him the other day and hes focused on best opportunity to play in the NHL so he may have another team or two on his ok list. It will be interesting g to see how all that plays out.


That may be the case but still drastically limits Carolina's options. I'd be thrilled to get Fox at a discount, or wait another year and get him for free, but if he wants to sign somewhere else I'm not too broken up about it.. And honestly I don't see how another team in the league would be able to give him more/better opportunity than the rebuilding Rangers at this point.




I don't disagree. The other thing he and other potential players can see, especially after tonight is some pretty good optimism about what Gorton has going. Tonight was huge. I think Fox being from where he is and with the defensive spot openings is going to be real interested in the Rangers. If Gorton grabs him for a third and Pionk he will get his opportunity.
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Posted 2019-04-09 9:25 PM (#724311 - in reply to #722584)
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Sweet. I'm actually looking forward to seeing Kaapo Kaako in a Rangers uniform. And Hughes right there in NJ makes things even more interesting.
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Posted 2019-04-10 6:53 AM (#724320 - in reply to #722584)
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Article in the post today Gorton happy the "hockey gods" shone on the Rangers after playing it straight and hard down the stretch when no one would have criticized them for tanking. They deserved it, and like I said earlier a great draft to be picking number 2. A definite fall off after Hughes and Kappo who are both number 1 overall talents, bringing different skill sets and abilities to the table making jersey's pick a lot tougher than it looks. Devils face the possibility of losing Taylor Hall to free agency after next season and Shero is smart enough to know he already has Hischier at center and Kappo is a nice replacement for Hall if he leaves.
Kappo has phenomenal numbers for his age bracket over in Finland, and brings more size and skill to the group Gorton is compiling. Ranger centers are going to be fighting to play with a guy, that can dangle like this kid. What a great day this was yesterday.
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Posted 2019-04-10 7:35 AM (#724325 - in reply to #722584)
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I think that's a little bit of monday morning quarterbacking by Gorton... of course that's easier to say when you beat the odds and end up #2. Odds were heavily in favor of staying at 6 or dropping, and that's what the original "tanking" criticism was. You obviously want the best chance of picking as high as possible going in - no one should go into the draft with hope as a strategy. The Kings played hard at the end too, winning 6 of their last 10 (we won 4 of our last 10) but they got totally boned, dropping from the 2 spot to #5. So I guess the hockey gods didn't smile on them for playing hard.

But as GM he's a spin guy also, so he's entitled to frame it how he likes, not going to rain on this parade at all. And obviously no GM is going to come out and say they were tanking, all they can do is give their coach the assets to tank (he did). It's all moot. Games are over, we lucked out.

Shero is probably going to draft Hughes but looking at it objectively I think Kakko fits the team better, and specifically to play with Nico. There's a bit of a logjam at center for them, especially with Zajac's contract on the books for a few more years. I'm not sure how much Zacha played on the wing last year but he has the skillset for it. That might help. Hall leaving after next year would be a big blow but that would "help" the logjam at center also. Realistically they already have 4 centers on the team right now, (Hischer, Zacha, Hall, Zajac) and moving one to wing is only kicking the can down the road. They could use a goal scoring winger more than adding another center.

For the Rangers, Kakko would slot right in at wing. There's no winger that has really cemented a spot in the top 6, although many are deserving. And with twice as many wing spots as center spots, there's more roster flexibility also. Personally I prefer Hughes but if he "fell" to us we'd have some tough roster decisions to make.

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Rranger
Posted 2019-04-10 8:03 AM (#724326 - in reply to #722584)
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Monday morning quarterbacking over what? He's telling it like it is and was. L. A. is quite right to say the hockey gods didn't shine on them. Gorton is thrilled he got the pick and is pointing out how happy they are they went about it the right way. its an obvious reference to some poor teams don't all go all out down the stretch. or is a smart GM talking out of his ass about nothing. Tanking happens all the time, its an art in and of itself. Going into a lottery with hope and higher odds created by finish is all you got, not sure who your referring to who goes into a draft with hope only. Makes it all the better when you go about it the right way, all the way down to playing the hottest goalie. Rangers could have improved their chances of losing by playing a subpar Lundqvist down the stretch and nobody would have said squat, they didn't, they played their best. Well done.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2019-04-10 9:40 AM (#724333 - in reply to #722584)
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Whatever we do...This should put to an end once and for all of Fast on the top line or top 6
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Posted 2019-04-10 10:54 AM (#724334 - in reply to #722584)
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Brian Burke ranting on Hockey Central about the lotto.... Good non playoff teams jumping many spots over a bad team ....and repetitive bad teams being allowed to pick 1st so many times
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Posted 2019-04-10 11:46 AM (#724336 - in reply to #722584)
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He is always complaining & ranting about something.
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Pierre_Pdare
Posted 2019-04-10 5:42 PM (#724347 - in reply to #722697)
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Pierre_Pdare - 2019-03-14 4:33 PM

I just did the lottery sim and the Kings won. BUT the RANGERS had the #2.


well look at this....a regular f in Nostrodumass I am
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Posted 2019-04-10 5:51 PM (#724348 - in reply to #724347)
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Pierre_Pdare - 2019-04-10 7:42 PM

Pierre_Pdare - 2019-03-14 4:33 PM

I just did the lottery sim and the Kings won. BUT the RANGERS had the #2.


well look at this....a regular f in Nostrodumass I am

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Rranger
Posted 2019-04-10 6:37 PM (#724352 - in reply to #724347)
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Pierre_Pdare - 2019-04-10 4:42 PM

Pierre_Pdare - 2019-03-14 4:33 PM

I just did the lottery sim and the Kings won. BUT the RANGERS had the #2.


well look at this....a regular f in Nostrodumass I am




Haha Pierre well done.
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Posted 2019-04-10 6:52 PM (#724353 - in reply to #722584)
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The more you look at this the more I like the Rangers can't miss position unless they do something off the wall. I would not be overly suprised to see Shero take Kakko who is as much a game breaker as Hughes, just in a different way.. I can hardly wait for the draft. It will hopefully remove the bitter taste of Andersson over Middlestadt who would have been fantastic with Kakko.
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Posted 2019-04-10 8:14 PM (#724355 - in reply to #722584)
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Mikey Red
Posted 2019-04-11 7:11 AM (#724358 - in reply to #722584)
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Posted 2019-04-11 7:40 AM (#724359 - in reply to #722584)
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Pronman article on The Athletic, I'll just post the conculsion


Projection
Kakko has done nothing but impress over the past two seasons. It’s hard to pick apart his play or skill set given what he’s shown at the international and pro levels. He’s given every indication he can be a star forward in the NHL and, given what he’s done versus men already, every indication he could step in right away next season and make a seamless transition into a top-nine, if not a top-six forward role.
The question on Kakko is if he’s dynamic enough to rise to the level of a true superstar, a guy who can define a franchise. I think there is reasonable doubt there, but from what he’s done this season at one of the highest levels of hockey, it is certainly possible. I know more than one team who would take him over Hughes, citing that Kakko’s skill set and the way he plays will translate better to the NHL.
I would not bet currently on him reaching the highest echelons of production in the NHL, but I can see him in the very next tier. In that sense, I see him as a roughly comparable prospect talent-wise to Andrei Svechnikov at this time last season, except with added value given what Kakko’s proven versus men


https://theathletic.com/902206/2019/04/08/pronman-why-kaapo-kakko-co...
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Posted 2019-04-11 8:36 AM (#724361 - in reply to #722584)
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Watching some highlights from last night...Heiskenen can skate like Paul Coffey. Rinne is not a money goalie. Dallas can absolutely win that series
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