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Rranger
Posted 2019-09-26 4:43 PM (#728174 - in reply to #724401)
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Skill and results are two different things. I agree Namestnikov has a little better physical skill than Strome, the mental part for both has yet to be proven that either is a number two center on a good team. At this point I think it’s Strome based on the second half last year and fact no one else has grabbed the spot YET. Strome was a high pick and has never had line mates like he would here, I think he’s a pretty good player that’s just never been given the right opportunity. The Rangers need Andersson and Chytil to step up and grab the gift wrapped opportunities in front of them, Chytil in particular is having a pretty mediocre camp. I see zero improvement in Chytil so far, while Andersson appears to be done with his after every whistle scrums that accomplished nothing, and has shown some signs of mental maturity and showing some effective on ice play.

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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2019-09-27 12:08 PM (#728187 - in reply to #724401)
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Posted 2019-09-27 12:08 PM (#728188 - in reply to #724401)
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Sure give Strome a shot there. Give Namestnikov a shot there too. You're paying him enough, make him prove his worth. Ultimately if a kid doesn't step up at some point this season and take the 2C spot, whether it's Chytil or Andersson or Howden (or someone else?) and you find yourself with Strome or Names as your 2C at the trade deadline - that's a problem.

Chytil's a better winger at this stage in his career. I'd rather not force him into a center spot if wing can get him more ice time. I still think it's a transition year for him, his feet are wet but he needs to carve out his niche and i don't think he's a natural centerman.
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Posted 2019-09-27 12:22 PM (#728189 - in reply to #724401)
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Yes I agree at some point in time it would be nice to see a kid in the second hole but that might still be a lot to ask. But with Andersson’s improved play the Rangers have three guys including Howden, and Chytil that could fill the two hole by February, or just load up one line and balance the other three. The important thing is they improve and the slots will look after themselves.
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Posted 2019-10-01 12:10 PM (#728257 - in reply to #724401)
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Posted 2019-10-01 12:12 PM (#728258 - in reply to #724401)
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2019-10-19 8:27 AM (#728750 - in reply to #724401)
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Here is what I posted in another thread early Sept:

To me this is still a young team, this team will be relying on kids to do well, keep improving, lead the way. This is still a team with a #1 goalie on the wrong side of 35, but a promising young goalie in training. A young D, & new faces on D that never played together. Who can put the puck in the net & put up points consistently besides Z.? There is still a question of leadership on the ice/locker room. The coach does a good job of this as the coach, but on the ice/locker room to take on this role. That's a LOT of questions, & a lot of things to go right to have a good season. But, I agree with every one including THN, NHL.Com, 1 of the more interesting teams to watch & see...

P.S.: If none of this goes well & doesn't come together another Top 5 pick wouldn't hurt to really put the team over the top.
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Posted 2019-10-19 9:04 AM (#728753 - in reply to #728750)
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LeetchyMrRanger - 2019-10-19 7:27 AM

Here is what I posted in another thread early Sept:

To me this is still a young team, this team will be relying on kids to do well, keep improving, lead the way. This is still a team with a #1 goalie on the wrong side of 35, but a promising young goalie in training. A young D, & new faces on D that never played together. Who can put the puck in the net & put up points consistently besides Z.? There is still a question of leadership on the ice/locker room. The coach does a good job of this as the coach, but on the ice/locker room to take on this role. That's a LOT of questions, & a lot of things to go right to have a good season. But, I agree with every one including THN, NHL.Com, 1 of the more interesting teams to watch & see...

P.S.: If none of this goes well & doesn't come together another Top 5 pick wouldn't hurt to really put the team over the top.



Well said. But one can’t lose sight of individual and team play improvements no matter what the team mix excuse is. Last year was filled with player inconsistency’s and when it comes down to it did anyone besides Zib and Georgiev improve? And already this year we see most of the team spinning its tires. On D Fox, and Hajek show promise and I like both their contributions so far, but it’s very important they get better every day, but the body of work hasn’t been large enough to say they are. Trouba is a unknown to most fans and we are getting a read on him so he gets a bit of a pass, but the rest Skjei, DeAngelo, Staal are their same old hot and cold inconsistent, and effort levels all over the map selfs. Zib, Panarin, and any fourth line thrown out there are doing their jobs, but the rest of the forwards are another collection of inconsistent weak assed efforts, most looking as uninterested as last year.
I’m certainly not calling for Quinn’s head yet, but he has to start looking in the mirror and start to question whether he’s sending the right message and using the right game plans. The Rangers have to be concerned when so many players are spinning their tires in the same way. Especially when Kreider, Howden, Strome, ect ect are given gift wrapped opportunities to excell. Quinn’s got some work to do.
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2019-10-19 1:42 PM (#728756 - in reply to #724401)
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There are enough players on this team to compete, & the goalies are good enough to compete. There are NO great goalies in the league right now, not 1. Holtby, cup winner, hit the wall & falling apart big time. A rookie won it last year. A rookie won it with Crybabies. THN has Tampa goalie as the best right now & Bob as #2, & Bishop #3, etc... Come on these are not great goalies, there are no great goalies anymore. The problem are not the 2 goalies, it is the D.

The last 3 games the team did NOT compete at all. The honeymoon is over & more focus will be on the coaching as the year progresses...

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Posted 2019-10-19 4:29 PM (#728757 - in reply to #728756)
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LeetchyMrRanger - 2019-10-19 12:42 PM

There are enough players on this team to compete, & the goalies are good enough to compete. There are NO great goalies in the league right now, not 1. Holtby, cup winner, hit the wall & falling apart big time. A rookie won it last year. A rookie won it with Crybabies. THN has Tampa goalie as the best right now & Bob as #2, & Bishop #3, etc... Come on these are not great goalies, there are no great goalies anymore. The problem are not the 2 goalies, it is the D.

The last 3 games the team did NOT compete at all. The honeymoon is over & more focus will be on the coaching as the year progresses...





Not sure why the goalie rant? The coaches job is to get players to play their best. If it ain’t good enough the focus switches to the GM. The Rangers got a lot of players spinning their tires so far this season. Quinn has to give these guys a game plan they can execute and get them executing it at their best. Any time soon would be great.
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2019-10-19 7:46 PM (#728758 - in reply to #724401)
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Many people are quick to blame the goalie(s). But, what can a goalie do when the D is so bad & gets no help, facing 40 SOG per game, open men all the time. I'm saying the team's problem is not goaltending it is the D, team D. And, you are right, are the players playing to their best, are you getting the most out of the players?
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2019-10-27 7:55 PM (#729113 - in reply to #724401)
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So much hope & excitement going into the season is fading fast. May be too early to do so, but time to start following the draft talent next draft.
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Posted 2019-11-06 11:58 AM (#729293 - in reply to #724401)
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Posted 2019-12-06 11:13 AM (#730290 - in reply to #724401)
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Hanging around .500 & a playoff spot is the worse spot to be in. You have to decide are you a buyer, legit? Or, you are just fooling yourself & you are a seller, let's work on a better team for next year. That's the position the Rangers are in now.
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Posted 2019-12-06 12:13 PM (#730292 - in reply to #724401)
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No way Rangers should think of themselves as "buyers" -- even if they are in a playoff position or close to one come the deadline.
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