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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2019-08-16 8:14 AM (#727691 - in reply to #727684)
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NHLnetwork has NYR ranked top prospect pool in the league.

Rebuild: success

As far as I know, having top ranked prospect pool has won exactly 0 Stanley cups.

Hard to call the rebuild anything at this point.



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Posted 2019-08-16 12:53 PM (#727693 - in reply to #724401)
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Conversely...not winning the Cup AND having a crappy prospect pool is a less appealing prospect
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Posted 2019-08-16 3:40 PM (#727699 - in reply to #724401)
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Tough crowd. I know I'm notoriously optimistic, but jeez. Take the good news as it comes.

This is a success as far as the rebuild is concerned. Not the complete success that a Cup would/will be.... but a success none the less

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Posted 2019-08-17 7:46 AM (#727700 - in reply to #724401)
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One little step left before its a success, Chytil, Andersson, Kravstov, Kappo, Fox, ect. ect must at least play well at the NHl level. If they all do wahoo, however common sense says they all won't. But the Rangers have accumulated a group that also includes a couple more defensemen Rykov and Hajek that could defy the odds and all make a contribution this season. Thats pretty good at this point, but not a success til they have some impact. .
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Posted 2019-08-19 5:04 PM (#727706 - in reply to #724401)
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Valeri Nichuskin signing with Colorado. Would have liked to have seen the Rangers take a run at a guy like that instead of wasting a contract on Lettieri. Still young leaving a organization that just might not have been a fit. Coaching Ruff?, then Montgomery last season. Not exactly Scotty Bowman either one. He would have been a Good project for Quinn, and he still has that mountain of potential. Competing against fellow Russians Buchnevich, Namestnikov, Kravstov and being around Panarin might have helped get him going. I think Colorado was smart giving him another chance.
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Posted 2019-08-19 5:40 PM (#727707 - in reply to #727700)
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One little step left before its a success, Chytil, Andersson, Kravstov, Kappo, Fox, ect. ect must at least play well at the NHl level. If they all do wahoo, however common sense says they all won't. But the Rangers have accumulated a group that also includes a couple more defensemen Rykov and Hajek that could defy the odds and all make a contribution this season. Thats pretty good at this point, but not a success til they have some impact. .


Why is it common sense? These are all high end talents. I know we're use to getting hyped up prospects and getting let down.... But these aren't Grachev, McIlarath, Jesseman tier players we're talking about.

These aren't just the best prospect in our system, These are some of the best prospects in the league.

Maybe they won't ALL pan out, but most of them will.

Nothings certain till it happens, all I'm ssying I think we're just in disbelief... NEVER in our franchise history have we buillt a team heavily relying on the draft like this.... at least not with this level talent and upside across the board

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Posted 2019-08-19 6:50 PM (#727708 - in reply to #727707)
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One little step left before its a success, Chytil, Andersson, Kravstov, Kappo, Fox, ect. ect must at least play well at the NHl level. If they all do wahoo, however common sense says they all won't. But the Rangers have accumulated a group that also includes a couple more defensemen Rykov and Hajek that could defy the odds and all make a contribution this season. Thats pretty good at this point, but not a success til they have some impact. .


Why is it common sense? These are all high end talents. I know we're use to getting hyped up prospects and getting let down.... But these aren't Grachev, McIlarath, Jesseman tier players we're talking about.

These aren't just the best prospect in our system, These are some of the best prospects in the league.

Maybe they won't ALL pan out, but most of them will.

Nothings certain till it happens, all I'm ssying I think we're just in disbelief... NEVER in our franchise history have we buillt a team heavily relying on the draft like this.... at least not with this level talent and upside across the board





When they do it will be a success. I mentioned Nishuskin in another post. As good a prospect as all but Kakko. So far he's done nothing. Ranger fans need to be a little cautious about overhype. Common sense, law of averages call it what you want, they won't all be impact players. If they are then you are seeing a true anomaly. Same as Andersson snd Chytil last year they all have it to do. Fox is already beating out DeAngelo on here, and he hadn't played one game. Exciting the possibilities and potential but a long ways to go yet Rob.
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Posted 2019-08-20 12:23 PM (#727710 - in reply to #724401)
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Posted 2019-08-20 12:55 PM (#727712 - in reply to #727708)
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One little step left before its a success, Chytil, Andersson, Kravstov, Kappo, Fox, ect. ect must at least play well at the NHl level. If they all do wahoo, however common sense says they all won't. But the Rangers have accumulated a group that also includes a couple more defensemen Rykov and Hajek that could defy the odds and all make a contribution this season. Thats pretty good at this point, but not a success til they have some impact. .


Why is it common sense? These are all high end talents. I know we're use to getting hyped up prospects and getting let down.... But these aren't Grachev, McIlarath, Jesseman tier players we're talking about.

These aren't just the best prospect in our system, These are some of the best prospects in the league.

Maybe they won't ALL pan out, but most of them will.

Nothings certain till it happens, all I'm ssying I think we're just in disbelief... NEVER in our franchise history have we buillt a team heavily relying on the draft like this.... at least not with this level talent and upside across the board





When they do it will be a success. I mentioned Nishuskin in another post. As good a prospect as all but Kakko. So far he's done nothing. Ranger fans need to be a little cautious about overhype. Common sense, law of averages call it what you want, they won't all be impact players. If they are then you are seeing a true anomaly. Same as Andersson snd Chytil last year they all have it to do. Fox is already beating out DeAngelo on here, and he hadn't played one game. Exciting the possibilities and potential but a long ways to go yet Rob.


Yeah, again, nothing is certain till it happens.... All I'm saying os these guys are all high end talent. Common sense tells me some could over exceed expectations just as easily.
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Posted 2019-08-20 5:19 PM (#727719 - in reply to #724401)
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The 1978-1979 Rangers went to the finals on a core of Ranger drafted players. Hickey, Duquay, McEwen, Greschner, Vickers, Murdoch, Marois,Deblois, Dave and Don Maloney ect. This new bunch has some ground to cover to earn your best ever rating.

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Posted 2019-08-21 8:23 PM (#727735 - in reply to #724401)
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Nice to see J.D.getting his son in law and brother on the payroll.


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Posted 2019-08-23 2:09 PM (#727746 - in reply to #724401)
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Posted 2019-08-23 3:55 PM (#727748 - in reply to #724401)
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I'll be in the hospital with pneumonia till further notice. 3-5 day the say
Woke up slurring my words... Still have a stutter. Lots of fluid in my left lung. They may transfer me Monday to get it drained.

Till then antibiotic drip is my only real friend. As long as I'm better by preseason
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Posted 2019-08-23 7:09 PM (#727749 - in reply to #724401)
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Hope you get better soon Rob.

Will say a prayer or 2 for you...
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Posted 2019-08-23 7:26 PM (#727750 - in reply to #724401)
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Posted 2019-08-23 10:22 PM (#727752 - in reply to #727748)
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I'll be in the hospital with pneumonia till further notice. 3-5 day the say
Woke up slurring my words... Still have a stutter. Lots of fluid in my left lung. They may transfer me Monday to get it drained.

Till then antibiotic drip is my only real friend. As long as I'm better by preseason


Fight thru the bastard and get well soon.
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Posted 2019-08-24 7:04 AM (#727753 - in reply to #724401)
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Posted 2019-08-27 8:52 AM (#727761 - in reply to #724401)
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Fox has a lot to live up to already. Good luck kid.
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Posted 2019-08-29 9:59 AM (#727786 - in reply to #724401)
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Like the sounds of Josh Mazur. No more chewy figure skaters.

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Posted 2019-08-29 11:39 AM (#727787 - in reply to #727786)
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Like the sounds of Josh Mazur. No more chewy figure skaters.

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Thanks for the update.

I have to say, knowing that repeated shots to the head can cause CTE, I am creeped out watching unpaid major juniors drop the gloves.
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Posted 2019-08-29 8:58 PM (#727792 - in reply to #727787)
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Like the sounds of Josh Mazur. No more chewy figure skaters.

https://www-blueshirtbanter-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.blueshirt...


Thanks for the update.

I have to say, knowing that repeated shots to the head can cause CTE, I am creeped out watching unpaid major juniors drop the gloves.




I grew up with fighting a big part of training camps and exhibition games. So I'm old school and I don't mind it at all. Some Coaches are looking for physically and mentally tough kids placing a of lot of value on that. And knowing they are facing 70 plus games and travel you can't imagine (especially in Western Canada) coaches put a lot of value in mentally tough kids who step up and answer the bell. Toughness used to be a very necessary trait physically and mentally in hockey players, unfortunately it seems to be going by the bye.
I don't like to see a kid lose a fight badly and have it affect his career usually ending it, it did and still does happen and will continue to happen as long as fighting is allowed but it's part of the weeding out process. I've also seen kids lose a fight and come back more determined and stronger mentally than ever so it affects kids differently. You just don't want to see them get messed up physically.

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Posted 2019-08-30 1:43 PM (#727793 - in reply to #724401)
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From THN latest issue: WINNER - NYR: A year or 2 away but will be a fun team to watch right away. Amazing to think where the Rangers are today compared to when Gorton & Sather penned the letter to the Fans only 17 months ago.
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Posted 2019-08-31 9:40 PM (#727796 - in reply to #727793)
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From THN latest issue: WINNER - NYR: A year or 2 away but will be a fun team to watch right away. Amazing to think where the Rangers are today compared to when Gorton & Sather penned the letter to the Fans only 17 months ago.





Agreed, if the defence can hold up with two or three new guys (and it’s not like last season is much to live up to) and be better than last year, Kreider, Buch, Zib and Panarin can put up some good numbers, Chytil, Kravstov and Kappo can kick in and playoffs are not a reach and they possibly become a tough playoff out. Exciting times indeed. But sign DeAngelo and Lemieux for crying out loud.
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Posted 2019-09-03 8:15 AM (#727799 - in reply to #727796)
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From THN latest issue: WINNER - NYR: A year or 2 away but will be a fun team to watch right away. Amazing to think where the Rangers are today compared to when Gorton & Sather penned the letter to the Fans only 17 months ago.





Agreed, if the defence can hold up with two or three new guys (and it’s not like last season is much to live up to) and be better than last year, Kreider, Buch, Zib and Panarin can put up some good numbers, Chytil, Kravstov and Kappo can kick in and playoffs are not a reach and they possibly become a tough playoff out. Exciting times indeed. But sign DeAngelo and Lemieux for crying out loud.


Need to find a taker for Namestnikov to get more cap dollars to sign both DeAngelo and Lemieux (or Strome if that gets you there)
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Posted 2019-09-03 8:25 AM (#727800 - in reply to #727799)
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From THN latest issue: WINNER - NYR: A year or 2 away but will be a fun team to watch right away. Amazing to think where the Rangers are today compared to when Gorton & Sather penned the letter to the Fans only 17 months ago.





Agreed, if the defence can hold up with two or three new guys (and it’s not like last season is much to live up to) and be better than last year, Kreider, Buch, Zib and Panarin can put up some good numbers, Chytil, Kravstov and Kappo can kick in and playoffs are not a reach and they possibly become a tough playoff out. Exciting times indeed. But sign DeAngelo and Lemieux for crying out loud.


Need to find a taker for Namestnikov to get more cap dollars to sign both DeAngelo and Lemieux (or Strome if that gets you there)





i'd rather move Fast who's zero offense is unsuitable for top nine duty and lightweight style is unsuitable for a fourth line. Trade him to chewy. Strome and Namestnikov both had a rejuvenation playing for Quinn last season are more suitable for a top six role and I'd be a little hesitant to trade either until the Rangers have a actual handle on the kids performance rather than dealing on conjecture.
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From THN latest issue: WINNER - NYR: A year or 2 away but will be a fun team to watch right away. Amazing to think where the Rangers are today compared to when Gorton & Sather penned the letter to the Fans only 17 months ago.





Agreed, if the defence can hold up with two or three new guys (and it’s not like last season is much to live up to) and be better than last year, Kreider, Buch, Zib and Panarin can put up some good numbers, Chytil, Kravstov and Kappo can kick in and playoffs are not a reach and they possibly become a tough playoff out. Exciting times indeed. But sign DeAngelo and Lemieux for crying out loud.


Need to find a taker for Namestnikov to get more cap dollars to sign both DeAngelo and Lemieux (or Strome if that gets you there)





i'd rather move Fast who's zero offense is unsuitable for top nine duty and lightweight style is unsuitable for a fourth line. Trade him to chewy. Strome and Namestnikov both had a rejuvenation playing for Quinn last season are more suitable for a top six role and I'd be a little hesitant to trade either until the Rangers have a actual handle on the kids performance rather than dealing on conjecture.


Wouldn't argue on the 'rather' - just don't see them moving Fast who has been the "player's player" for the past few years. Also, he may not get enough cap space based on salary (1.8 vs 3.1 for Strome and 4.0 for Names)
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Posted 2019-09-03 11:50 AM (#727803 - in reply to #724401)
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Posted 2019-09-03 1:10 PM (#727805 - in reply to #724401)
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Posted 2019-09-03 6:19 PM (#727808 - in reply to #727801)
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From THN latest issue: WINNER - NYR: A year or 2 away but will be a fun team to watch right away. Amazing to think where the Rangers are today compared to when Gorton & Sather penned the letter to the Fans only 17 months ago.





Agreed, if the defence can hold up with two or three new guys (and it’s not like last season is much to live up to) and be better than last year, Kreider, Buch, Zib and Panarin can put up some good numbers, Chytil, Kravstov and Kappo can kick in and playoffs are not a reach and they possibly become a tough playoff out. Exciting times indeed. But sign DeAngelo and Lemieux for crying out loud.


Need to find a taker for Namestnikov to get more cap dollars to sign both DeAngelo and Lemieux (or Strome if that gets you there)





i'd rather move Fast who's zero offense is unsuitable for top nine duty and lightweight style is unsuitable for a fourth line. Trade him to chewy. Strome and Namestnikov both had a rejuvenation playing for Quinn last season are more suitable for a top six role and I'd be a little hesitant to trade either until the Rangers have a actual handle on the kids performance rather than dealing on conjecture.


Wouldn't argue on the 'rather' - just don't see them moving Fast who has been the "player's player" for the past few years. Also, he may not get enough cap space based on salary (1.8 vs 3.1 for Strome and 4.0 for Names)





I get the extra $$ for Strome or Namestnikov, but both were used very well by Quinn last season Strome the number two center and Namestnikov all over the place doing a very good job defensively. I think both will put up better numbers this season certainly more than Fast. If DeAngelo and Lemieux both sign for under a total of $2,000,000 the team should be fine assuming they moved Fast who’s trade value is probably at its peak. I’m more or less agreeing with you, but I’m hoping it’s Fast moved. With all the kids coming in I don’t see him in the top nine and then you get into a overpaid fourth liner.
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Posted 2019-09-04 10:08 AM (#727811 - in reply to #727808)
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Need to find a taker for Namestnikov to get more cap dollars to sign both DeAngelo and Lemieux (or Strome if that gets you there)





i'd rather move Fast who's zero offense is unsuitable for top nine duty and lightweight style is unsuitable for a fourth line. Trade him to chewy. Strome and Namestnikov both had a rejuvenation playing for Quinn last season are more suitable for a top six role and I'd be a little hesitant to trade either until the Rangers have a actual handle on the kids performance rather than dealing on conjecture.


Wouldn't argue on the 'rather' - just don't see them moving Fast who has been the "player's player" for the past few years. Also, he may not get enough cap space based on salary (1.8 vs 3.1 for Strome and 4.0 for Names)





I get the extra $$ for Strome or Namestnikov, but both were used very well by Quinn last season Strome the number two center and Namestnikov all over the place doing a very good job defensively. I think both will put up better numbers this season certainly more than Fast. If DeAngelo and Lemieux both sign for under a total of $2,000,000 the team should be fine assuming they moved Fast who’s trade value is probably at its peak. I’m more or less agreeing with you, but I’m hoping it’s Fast moved. With all the kids coming in I don’t see him in the top nine and then you get into a overpaid fourth liner.


I just don't see room for BOTH Strome and Namestnikov.

Assume the following:
Zib, Buch, Panarin, Kaako, Kreider and (Strome OR Names) in top 6
then go with Howden/Andersson, Kravtsov, Chytil on line 3

That leaves from among Fast, Lemieux, McKegg, Nieves the other of Howden/Andersson, and the other of Strome/Names for 4th line.

Personally, if needed, I think McKegg is a cheaper option to do what Namestnikov can do. If Fast can be dealt as well for something reasonable that works too.

Just my thoughts...
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Posted 2019-09-04 11:28 AM (#727813 - in reply to #724401)
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Posted 2019-09-04 5:39 PM (#727817 - in reply to #724401)
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Posted 2019-09-04 6:49 PM (#727818 - in reply to #727811)
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Need to find a taker for Namestnikov to get more cap dollars to sign both DeAngelo and Lemieux (or Strome if that gets you there)





i'd rather move Fast who's zero offense is unsuitable for top nine duty and lightweight style is unsuitable for a fourth line. Trade him to chewy. Strome and Namestnikov both had a rejuvenation playing for Quinn last season are more suitable for a top six role and I'd be a little hesitant to trade either until the Rangers have a actual handle on the kids performance rather than dealing on conjecture.


Wouldn't argue on the 'rather' - just don't see them moving Fast who has been the "player's player" for the past few years. Also, he may not get enough cap space based on salary (1.8 vs 3.1 for Strome and 4.0 for Names)





I get the extra $$ for Strome or Namestnikov, but both were used very well by Quinn last season Strome the number two center and Namestnikov all over the place doing a very good job defensively. I think both will put up better numbers this season certainly more than Fast. If DeAngelo and Lemieux both sign for under a total of $2,000,000 the team should be fine assuming they moved Fast who’s trade value is probably at its peak. I’m more or less agreeing with you, but I’m hoping it’s Fast moved. With all the kids coming in I don’t see him in the top nine and then you get into a overpaid fourth liner.


I just don't see room for BOTH Strome and Namestnikov.

Assume the following:
Zib, Buch, Panarin, Kaako, Kreider and (Strome OR Names) in top 6
then go with Howden/Andersson, Kravtsov, Chytil on line 3

That leaves from among Fast, Lemieux, McKegg, Nieves the other of Howden/Andersson, and the other of Strome/Names for 4th line.

Personally, if needed, I think McKegg is a cheaper option to do what Namestnikov can do. If Fast can be dealt as well for something reasonable that works too.

Just my thoughts...




Unless there’s a blow the doors off Kreider trade, I think they go into camp with all the above players and let it play out. I think it becomes a Strome or Namestnikov battle for number two center also and the loser gets moved. Only both staying if kids falter. I also see both Kappo and Kravstov passing Anderson and Chytil on the depth chart. I don’t sell Kravstov short on his top six potential out of camp, joining Kappo in that mix. Joining Panarin and either Kreider or Buch on the top two lines Again making one of those two possibly expendable to maybe bring in some experienced defensive depth. One thing about it is some help should be acquired when Gorton does move his excess guys, and if it’s a Namestnikov it will likely mean roughly the same money will be coming back. So I still see Fast getting moved fora pick to free up a little room. Won’t be much but should allow some roster juggling with Hartford if needed until Kreider likely gets moved at the deadline.
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robstones
Posted 2019-09-04 9:08 PM (#727819 - in reply to #724401)
Subject: Re: 2019 Offseason Thread



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