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Rranger
Posted 2020-01-06 5:25 PM (#730830 - in reply to #728912)
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Lol Vua good one.
The Rangers are not light on forwards if they stick to trading Fast and Kreider up front and Skjei and by miracle Staal. Strome and Buchnevich are handy guys to have around and Strome better be smart enough to realize what he has in New York.
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x10003q
Posted 2020-01-07 8:56 AM (#730831 - in reply to #730828)
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Vua - 2020-01-06 5:59 PM

People were worried if he didn't get called up he would use his out clause. A few games behind this defense and he may use his clause if they don't send him back to Hartford.


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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2020-01-07 11:47 AM (#730832 - in reply to #728912)
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Location: NJ		Ok, good for this kid goalie. How does this solve the Rangers D-problems, holes, inefficiencies? Unless he is the next Roy (i.e. 1986), the same D-problems will persist.
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Steady Eddie
Posted 2020-01-07 12:09 PM (#730833 - in reply to #728912)
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I think the return on Shesterkin is greater than Georgiev. If management has confidence in Georgiev, a #1 pick or a top prospect could be had for Shestorkin. Not sure if we get better than a #2 for Georgiev.
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Posted 2020-01-07 12:28 PM (#730834 - in reply to #730833)
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Steady Eddie - 2020-01-07 11:09 AM

I think the return on Shesterkin is greater than Georgiev. If management has confidence in Georgiev, a #1 pick or a top prospect could be had for Shestorkin. Not sure if we get better than a #2 for Georgiev.


I'd be very surprised if they got a 2nd rounder for Georgiev....goaltenders tend to trade below other positions in terms of value. I wouldn't be surprised if Shesterkin managed a 2nd rounder at best, and IMO you check to see what you got, but on performance to date, I'd be more inclined to keep Shesterkin than Georgiev, and the only real reason you're trading Georgiev is because you have too many goaltenders, so moving him would make it easier for Shesterkin to evolve rather than have him plateau in Hartford.
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Pierre_Pdare
Posted 2020-01-07 5:49 PM (#730843 - in reply to #730828)
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Vua - 2020-01-06 5:59 PM

People were worried if he didn't get called up he would use his out clause. A few games behind this defense and he may use his clause if they don't send him back to Hartford.


Might not even take a few games... a few periods perhaps...
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concust
Posted 2020-01-08 7:49 AM (#730913 - in reply to #728912)
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Location: USA		People are overrating Georgiev. I'm happy with his performance as a backup but he's either had great games, or very bad ones. And I think people all too easily are forgetting the bad ones.

He's played 20 games so far. He's given up 4 or more goals in 7 of them, including 3 of the last 4. That's not starter material in the NHL, even in spite of blaming the Rangers defense for bleeding shots. That's either a good backup, or a bottom of the barrel starter. If we can get a 2nd rounder for him I'd be thrilled.

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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2020-01-08 11:58 AM (#730914 - in reply to #728912)
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Rranger
Posted 2020-01-08 12:30 PM (#730916 - in reply to #728912)
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I don’t think many on here expect more than a second for Georgiev and even that might be high based on other goalie trades. I think the opposition is him being moved period. Especially for not much. Right now he’s pretty much even with Lundqvist playing and numbers wise. I would and many others would rather see Georgiev and Shestorokin playing together going forward. If there is a team out there that can offer Lundqvist the challenge and opportunity to compete for a cup and sell him on going there, fit him in their cap I’m all for it. And the sooner the better. Shestorokin and Georgiev are both ready and need to play.
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x10003q
Posted 2020-01-09 8:55 AM (#730921 - in reply to #730916)
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Rranger - 2020-01-08 2:30 PM

I don’t think many on here expect more than a second for Georgiev and even that might be high based on other goalie trades. I think the opposition is him being moved period. Especially for not much. Right now he’s pretty much even with Lundqvist playing and numbers wise. I would and many others would rather see Georgiev and Shestorokin playing together going forward. If there is a team out there that can offer Lundqvist the challenge and opportunity to compete for a cup and sell him on going there, fit him in their cap I’m all for it. And the sooner the better. Shestorokin and Georgiev are both ready and need to play.


Watch the miracle of "Hank leaving" happen and then the Rangers loose Georgiev to Seattle.
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concust
Posted 2020-01-09 11:31 AM (#730922 - in reply to #730921)
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x10003q - 2020-01-09 9:55 AM

Rranger - 2020-01-08 2:30 PM

I don’t think many on here expect more than a second for Georgiev and even that might be high based on other goalie trades. I think the opposition is him being moved period. Especially for not much. Right now he’s pretty much even with Lundqvist playing and numbers wise. I would and many others would rather see Georgiev and Shestorokin playing together going forward. If there is a team out there that can offer Lundqvist the challenge and opportunity to compete for a cup and sell him on going there, fit him in their cap I’m all for it. And the sooner the better. Shestorokin and Georgiev are both ready and need to play.


Watch the miracle of "Hank leaving" happen and then the Rangers loose Georgiev to Seattle.


Even if they don't move anyone, Hank's contract ends and they can protect Georgiev. Shesterkin doesn't need to be protected.
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x10003q
Posted 2020-01-09 11:40 AM (#730923 - in reply to #730922)
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concust - 2020-01-09 1:31 PM

x10003q - 2020-01-09 9:55 AM

Rranger - 2020-01-08 2:30 PM

I don’t think many on here expect more than a second for Georgiev and even that might be high based on other goalie trades. I think the opposition is him being moved period. Especially for not much. Right now he’s pretty much even with Lundqvist playing and numbers wise. I would and many others would rather see Georgiev and Shestorokin playing together going forward. If there is a team out there that can offer Lundqvist the challenge and opportunity to compete for a cup and sell him on going there, fit him in their cap I’m all for it. And the sooner the better. Shestorokin and Georgiev are both ready and need to play.


Watch the miracle of "Hank leaving" happen and then the Rangers loose Georgiev to Seattle.


Even if they don't move anyone, Hank's contract ends and they can protect Georgiev. Shesterkin doesn't need to be protected.


Right! So they do not have to expose Shesterkin because of the age of his contract?
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concust
Posted 2020-01-09 3:43 PM (#730928 - in reply to #728912)
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Steady Eddie
Posted 2020-01-10 11:04 AM (#731005 - in reply to #728912)
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After seeing him in the two games, it looks like Shesty is the real deal. Can handle the puck better than any Ranger goalie since Biron, good down low, very good glove, and good rebound control. I like Georgiev, but I think this guy is even better. Now the question is, what to do with three goalies? I say ride the hot hand. Play Shesty, keep Lundqvist on the bench, and Georgy in street clothes. Perhaps Hank will grow tired of being a backup and ask for a trade. If not, get what you can for Georgy.
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Steady Eddie
Posted 2020-03-14 6:07 AM (#733283 - in reply to #728912)
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Hartford is 24-8-7 with Shesterkin in the lineup. They are 7-12-4, have lost 5 straight, and have gone from 1st to 7th in the conference without him.

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itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2020-03-14 7:02 AM (#733284 - in reply to #728912)
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The fact Shesterkin and the coach had the record they did was a miracle. That team is basically void of talent. Next year there should be a huge pool of young talent going there. It's been a long time that has been the case.
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2020-03-14 7:31 AM (#733285 - in reply to #728912)
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