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Fish
Posted 2020-08-11 2:31 PM (#734042)
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In terms of dollars and years, what is your limit on a new contract with Lemieux
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Posted 2020-08-23 7:11 AM (#734126 - in reply to #734042)
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$1.75 - $2.0 M for 2 years
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Posted 2020-08-23 7:39 AM (#734127 - in reply to #734042)
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Love Lemieux and the Rangers really need his game. Three years at $2,000,000 would be good.
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itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2020-08-23 9:22 AM (#734128 - in reply to #734042)
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I thought Lemieux sucked this regular season and regressed but he reminded us the playoffs is a second season and most of our forwards are pansies who have no clue how to forecheck or hit.
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Posted 2020-08-23 2:38 PM (#734129 - in reply to #734042)
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I agree with Pierre and Rranger.

And with itsmclirathetime......... He is what is needed in the second season. But, the Rangers brass can't overspend on what he brings..
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PV29
Posted 2020-08-23 6:23 PM (#734130 - in reply to #734129)
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Lemieux is the type of player that goes elsewhere for a few extra bucks and makes you wish he was still here.

I'd like to see his conditioning improve next season, he seemed to sputter at the end of each shift. But there's no denying his grit and the Rangers have very few gritty players up front, something they'll need to support the skill players they've drafted and will draft. He's at $925k now, I'd go $1.5M for 2 years or $1.25 for 3 years.

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itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2020-08-25 7:35 AM (#734140 - in reply to #734042)
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They need to get Lias back into the fold, more mature, a little quicker and have Quinn get his head out of his ass with him. Everytime you see Lias score a goal he's right in front to of the net. He goes to all the tough areas and he's a pain in the ass to play against when he's mentally on track. They need him on one of the lower lines. If JD and Gorton do this right we won't have a 4th line. We will have two 3rd lines, talent wise. During the regular season they can play the 1st and 2nd lines less at times, keep them fresher for the playoffs. I don't want to see Zibanejad, Kreider out there killing penalties. Let somebody else do that.
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Steady Eddie
Posted 2020-08-26 5:13 AM (#734142 - in reply to #734140)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2020-08-25 9:35 AM

They need to get Lias back into the fold, more mature, a little quicker and have Quinn get his head out of his ass with him. Everytime you see Lias score a goal he's right in front to of the net.
Really hard to remember where he was for the 3 goals he netted in 66 games. Wait... I do remember the one that went in off his ass. Yes, right in front of the net.
He goes to all the tough areas and he's a pain in the ass to play against when he's mentally on track. They need him on one of the lower lines.
It's really time to let go of Lias. Everyone else in the organization has. Time to add his name with Dylan and Hugh.
If JD and Gorton do this right we won't have a 4th line. We will have two 3rd lines, talent wise. During the regular season they can play the 1st and 2nd lines less at times, keep them fresher for the playoffs. I don't want to see Zibanejad, Kreider out there killing penalties. Let somebody else do that.
You tell posters that they don't know hockey, but this statement of yours tells me you know less. Zibanejad needs to be on the PK as much as he needs to be on the PP. He's as important to both as Messier was. Kreider averaged 2 seconds a game of PK time. Your hockey IQ is microscopic.


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itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2020-08-27 5:50 PM (#734144 - in reply to #734042)
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You're a pansy who got his feelings hurt because Lias asked for a trade. Yet you suck off Fox who refused to play for two teams because he wanted to be a Ranger. You are a hypocrite and have no creditably.
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Posted 2020-08-28 6:04 AM (#734145 - in reply to #734144)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2020-08-27 7:50 PM

You're a pansy who got his feelings hurt because Lias asked for a trade. Yet you suck off Fox who refused to play for two teams because he wanted to be a Ranger. You are a hypocrite and have no creditably.

No, I'm glad Lias asked for a trade. Too bad they couldn't. Goes to show, no one wants him. Just you and some B league team in Sweden.

Not sure how Fox got into the conversation, but glad he wanted to be a Ranger. Not sure if you remember, but we had to give up 2 picks to get him. Not exactly like the situation with Vesey, who bailed on his team and left them nothing. Btw, the team Vesey bailed on was Buffalo, who he ultimately got traded to. Karma.

I think the word you were looking for was credibility.

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Posted 2020-08-28 11:19 AM (#734146 - in reply to #734042)
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You're basically the typical hypocrite, obnoxious Rangers fan which is why so many other fans hate this team. When players screw their teams over and only want to play here you say nothing and go play with yourself all happy. Yet, when a player says he doesn't want to play here you act like somebody just kicked your dog. Talk about a schmuck. Most of this fan base were such a bunch of crybabies when Lias asked for a trade. It was pathetic.
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Posted 2020-08-28 11:28 AM (#734147 - in reply to #734042)
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Lias Andersson’s deal was he was supposed to be a gritty hard to play against guy. Which he might have been in Juniors and in the Veresta Vuden Hozen league in Sweden. But it was apparent to anyone who’s watched hockey, his gloves in your face minor league **** didn’t fly in the NHL. Especially to him. He tried it in his tenure with the Rangers and basically realized he was out of his league physically. He got fed gloved fists and sticks as experienced NHL’ers responded to his punk ass crap. And he wilted and was gone. Same reasons for his flameout in the AHL and back to his safe place in Sweden he goes.
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itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2020-08-29 5:31 AM (#734148 - in reply to #734042)
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I don't hear people complaining about Panarin screwing the Jackets over either. If Zibanejad is up for a contract and says I only want to play in Philly, this board would freakin lose their mind. It's the typical hypocrite Rangers fan base. They only see things from their viewpoint.
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Posted 2020-08-29 9:34 AM (#734149 - in reply to #734148)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2020-08-29 5:31 AM

I don't hear people complaining about Panarin screwing the Jackets over either. If Zibanejad is up for a contract and says I only want to play in Philly, this board would freakin lose their mind. It's the typical hypocrite Rangers fan base. They only see things from their viewpoint.


What are you talking about? Panarin didn't screw over anyone. He was an UFA who made it clear he was going to test the market. It's his right. The Jackets could have traded him but they chose not to. It's not like Tavares who made the Islanders think he wanted to stay only to leave, but even that is his right. Zib can do whatever he wants once he's a free agent. He can chase money or a Cup or be happy where he is. Moving on as an UFA isn't screwing anyone, where demanding a trade and saying you'll only go to 1 team could be. But if the team you're on is that dreadful and doesn't do anything to improve, that is the team's fault. Would you blame someone for wanting out of Ottawa? They bring that on themselves.

And Lias is done as a Ranger. Quinn didn't screw him over. He played decent in a couple preseason games and you think that earned him anything? You just hate that another of your pets is going to crash and burn. You haven't picked one right yet.
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Steady Eddie
Posted 2020-08-30 6:13 AM (#734150 - in reply to #734146)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2020-08-28 1:19 PM

You're basically the typical hypocrite, obnoxious Rangers fan which is why so many other fans hate this team. When players screw their teams over and only want to play here you say nothing and go play with yourself all happy. Yet, when a player says he doesn't want to play here you act like somebody just kicked your dog. Talk about a schmuck. Most of this fan base were such a bunch of crybabies when Lias asked for a trade. It was pathetic.


You're an idiot. You've proved it and I'm now done with you.

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Andy Bathgate
Posted 2020-08-31 5:20 PM (#734152 - in reply to #734126)
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Pierre_Pdare - 2020-08-23 9:11 AM

$1.75 - $2.0 M for 2 years


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Beezer34
Posted 2020-09-01 4:11 AM (#734155 - in reply to #734042)
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I would think south of 2.25 but not higher for sure.. it all depends on a few things.... cap space..... term.. so 3 years for me... and at the end of the day his sand paper is hard to replace and on a team FULL of talent and young talent.. his grit will help the kids and give them space... they need his type to even out the talent.. and I like a 4th like with him.. Howden and Gauthier on it..speed and crash and some skill reminds me of Prust and Boyle back before..
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concust
Posted 2020-09-02 7:53 AM (#734165 - in reply to #734130)
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PV29 - 2020-08-23 7:23 PM
He's at $925k now, I'd go $1.5M for 2 years or $1.25 for 3 years.



I'd do this in a heartbeat. At that price his utility far, far exceeds the cost.

We're paying Brendan Smith $4.3m for two years of service as a 13F/7th defenseman for god's sake.
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concust
Posted 2020-09-02 7:56 AM (#734166 - in reply to #734042)
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Honestly I'd go up to $2m per on a good day, the only downsides are the flat cap and I'd be careful with the term for sure.
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