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Posts: 866  Location: NYC & Charlotte, NC | Laf # 13 - 2021-02-22 6:46 PM Andy Bathgate - 2021-02-22 6:10 PM PV29 - 2021-02-22 4:59 PM Andy Bathgate - 2021-02-22 4:48 PM PV29 - 2021-02-22 4:35 PM To someone who has lived in this country for a long time, it seems impossible that such things can happen in a civilized country. That speaking your mind in opposition to a political leader can result in "hit pieces" written in the media and possible threats to loved ones. That is, until you realize that openly supporting President Trump in this country can get you fired from your job, death threats sent to you and your family, and your home/business getting vandalized. There's a common thread to this: Leftists. Horrible analogy... Russia is no longer a communist country, they’re a Oligarchy, run like a mafia. But there you go again turning a hockey thread into a political thread. And his name is impeached twice, 1 term former President Trump, who’s believed to be a Russian asset. Well, to be fair, the story itself is a bit of both. It's a political story about a hockey player, so some leeway is in order. Just my opinion. As for Russia, I have no first-hand knowledge so I won't debate your statement. But I believe "tyranny" is an accurate description of what is going on. Which is similar to what we see here. And while he's twice-impeached and an accused Russian asset, nobody should be threatened, assaulted and censored for voicing an opinion that supports him. Not in this country. I agree with those last 2 sentences... but its happening on all sides, to victimize one party or one view is being mistreated and threatened and assaulted is wrong thousands of Trump supporters on Jan 6th killed 5 people and did more than threatened.. they assaulted and tried to physically censor a Democratic policy of a fair turnover of power... all because they were lied to. Militias are illegal in this country, they have no rights under the law! And when the Dems stoked violence in the streets, and told lies about Trump, and called his supporters names, and said let's get them on and on, that was okay or were those people lied to as well. People died there also. People were incited and lied to there also. Round and round we go. Now you'll come back with your Dem POV that it isn't true, or they didn't do that, or this was worse, or they didn't incite violence, and whatever else you will throw out there or shoot down the comparison, and that would just prove the point even more. BOTH SIDES in this country are so dug in, that they only see their side of the debate. They think their side is in the right, and the other side is wrong and starts everything. That's reality regardless of what you, or I, or anyone tries to say or spin. And newsflash...this has been going on for longer than Trump. It started late in W's 2nd term, and has gotten worse year after year - both sides. And I don't see it getting better anytime soon. It won't get better. We talk unity, and then pass things on straight party lines. We talk unity and then do whatever they want when their party has control. BOTH SIDES are guilty of this, of all of it. Period.  | ||
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Posts: 139 | Andy Bathgate - 2021-02-23 12:03 AM Laf # 13 - 2021-02-22 6:46 PM Andy Bathgate - 2021-02-22 6:10 PM PV29 - 2021-02-22 4:59 PM Andy Bathgate - 2021-02-22 4:48 PM PV29 - 2021-02-22 4:35 PM To someone who has lived in this country for a long time, it seems impossible that such things can happen in a civilized country. That speaking your mind in opposition to a political leader can result in "hit pieces" written in the media and possible threats to loved ones. That is, until you realize that openly supporting President Trump in this country can get you fired from your job, death threats sent to you and your family, and your home/business getting vandalized. There's a common thread to this: Leftists. Horrible analogy... Russia is no longer a communist country, they’re a Oligarchy, run like a mafia. But there you go again turning a hockey thread into a political thread. And his name is impeached twice, 1 term former President Trump, who’s believed to be a Russian asset. Well, to be fair, the story itself is a bit of both. It's a political story about a hockey player, so some leeway is in order. Just my opinion. As for Russia, I have no first-hand knowledge so I won't debate your statement. But I believe "tyranny" is an accurate description of what is going on. Which is similar to what we see here. And while he's twice-impeached and an accused Russian asset, nobody should be threatened, assaulted and censored for voicing an opinion that supports him. Not in this country. I agree with those last 2 sentences... but its happening on all sides, to victimize one party or one view is being mistreated and threatened and assaulted is wrong thousands of Trump supporters on Jan 6th killed 5 people and did more than threatened.. they assaulted and tried to physically censor a Democratic policy of a fair turnover of power... all because they were lied to. Militias are illegal in this country, they have no rights under the law! And when the Dems stoked violence in the streets, and told lies about Trump, and called his supporters names, and said let's get them on and on, that was okay or were those people lied to as well. People died there also. People were incited and lied to there also. Round and round we go. Now you'll come back with your Dem POV that it isn't true, or they didn't do that, or this was worse, or they didn't incite violence, and whatever else you will throw out there or shoot down the comparison, and that would just prove the point even more. BOTH SIDES in this country are so dug in, that they only see their side of the debate. They think their side is in the right, and the other side is wrong and starts everything. That's reality regardless of what you, or I, or anyone tries to say or spin. And newsflash...this has been going on for longer than Trump. It started late in W's 2nd term, and has gotten worse year after year - both sides. And I don't see it getting better anytime soon. It won't get better. We talk unity, and then pass things on straight party lines. We talk unity and then do whatever they want when their party has control. BOTH SIDES are guilty of this, of all of it. Period. Thank you for proving the exact point being made on the prior page. It's all one side, that darn GOP and Trump. And America continues down the hole...LOL. | ||
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 Posts: 1088  | Andy Bathgate - 2021-02-22 6:10 PM I agree with those last 2 sentences... but its happening on all sides, to victimize one party or one view is being mistreated and threatened and assaulted is wrong thousands of Trump supporters on Jan 6th killed 5 people and did more than threatened.. they assaulted and tried to physically censor a Democratic policy of a fair turnover of power... all because they were lied to. Militias are illegal in this country, they have no rights under the law! Wow. That's a rabbit hole of corporate media talking points that I'll decline to travel with you. Maybe some other time in a different forum. Back to Panarin. Hopefully his family is ok and he can resume his season with NYR as soon as possible. And just to stir some ish again, I wonder if management told Panarin to "tone it down" when he was criticizing Putin on social media and in interviews. One other question: These other Russian players who have publicly supported Putin, have their teams told them to "tone it down" because openly supporting a guy like PUTIN is controversial and not good for the team's image?  | ||
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 Posts: 135 Location: Out to lunch | PV29 - 2021-02-23 11:29 AM Andy Bathgate - 2021-02-22 6:10 PM I agree with those last 2 sentences... but its happening on all sides, to victimize one party or one view is being mistreated and threatened and assaulted is wrong thousands of Trump supporters on Jan 6th killed 5 people and did more than threatened.. they assaulted and tried to physically censor a Democratic policy of a fair turnover of power... all because they were lied to. Militias are illegal in this country, they have no rights under the law! Wow. That's a rabbit hole of corporate media talking points that I'll decline to travel with you. Maybe some other time in a different forum. Back to Panarin. Hopefully his family is ok and he can resume his season with NYR as soon as possible. And just to stir some ish again, I wonder if management told Panarin to "tone it down" when he was criticizing Putin on social media and in interviews. One other question: These other Russian players who have publicly supported Putin, have their teams told them to "tone it down" because openly supporting a guy like PUTIN is controversial and not good for the team's image? God dammed trumpers!! Tony D killed those 5 people!! I'm so glad I waived him. | ||
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