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Fish
Posted 2021-03-26 9:34 PM (#777091)
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The Rangers have 24 games left, and sit at 5th place (on tiebreaker with the Flyers) with 34 points.

1. 48 - Capitals (33 GP) - 4 more meetings
2. 48 - Islanders (34) - 5 more meetings
3. 44 - Penguins (34) - 2 more meetings
4. 37 - Bruins (29) - 2 more meetings
5. 34 - Rangers (32)
6. 34 - Flyers (32) - 3 more meetings
7. 28 - Devils (32) - 4 more meetings
8. 16 - Sabres (32) - 4 more meetings

The chances of catching the Capitals, Islanders and Penguins are fairly low. Say for instance the Rangers were to beat the Isles in regulation in each of their remaining five match-ups - they'd still be 4 points behind, though with two games in hand. For the Capitals, they'd be 6 points behind (with 1 game in hand), and for the Penguins 6 points behind with two games in hand.

In the case of the Bruins, the Rangers could get a point ahead of the Bruins if they were to win their final two matchups, but the Bruins would have three additional games in which to make it up.

If the Rangers finish the season at the rate of .750 which would be 36 out of the remaining 48 points (18-6-0), they'd end up with 70 points in their 56 games. To meet that rate, the Bruins would only need to go at .610 (33 of a possible 54 points or something like 16-10-1) the rest of the way to edge the Rangers. To put things in perspective, the AVERAGE point percentage in the East currently is .560, so Boston would have to stumble some AND the Rangers would have to perform better across the remainder of the season than ANY team in the East has done so far this season.

Not that I expect many people here have delusions of playoffs, but this should demonstrate just how tough it would be to make it from here.
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itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2021-03-27 4:58 AM (#777096 - in reply to #777091)
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They aren't going anywhere until they fire this incompetent coach and hire Knoblauch who I wanted from day one this year.
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Kakko # 24
Posted 2021-03-27 6:19 AM (#777097 - in reply to #777091)
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The only one incompetent here is you loser. Go peddle your whining nonsense somewhere else. You want every coach fired 4 months after they are hired, we know your loser game. Don't detract from the good hockey talk on this board with your BS.

As for the playoffs, the Bruins have 3 games in hand and a 3 point lead over us, it is going to be real difficult to catch them (plus they have more games left against Buffalo than we do 6-4).

I fear the L's against the Pens 3 weeks ago will be the undoing of our playoff chances. We are 10 points behind them, but have 2 games in hand. If we split those two games we could be almost neck and neck when factoring in games in hand.

We have two games remaining against each the Bruins and Pens. So it's not impossible, but will be very difficult as you point out.

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Cap'nMess
Posted 2021-03-27 4:06 PM (#777213 - in reply to #777091)
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All but over
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Steady Eddie
Posted 2021-03-27 7:13 PM (#777219 - in reply to #777213)
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Cap'nMess - 2021-03-27 6:06 PM

All but over

Yep. The rest of this season has to be all about next season.

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Kakko # 24
Posted 2021-03-27 7:20 PM (#777220 - in reply to #777219)
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Steady Eddie - 2021-03-27 10:13 PM

Cap'nMess - 2021-03-27 6:06 PM

All but over

Yep. The rest of this season has to be all about next season.


100% spot on - let the kids play even more now and gain further experience.

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Cap'nMess
Posted 2021-03-28 10:43 AM (#777259 - in reply to #777220)
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Kakko # 24 - 2021-03-27 9:20 PM

Steady Eddie - 2021-03-27 10:13 PM

Cap'nMess - 2021-03-27 6:06 PM

All but over

Yep. The rest of this season has to be all about next season.


100% spot on - let the kids play even more now and gain further experience.



I agree with both of these replies. Play the kids as much as possible, let them get used to playing and learning in good times and bad
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Blue404
Posted 2021-03-30 7:21 PM (#777471 - in reply to #777091)
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Let’s tank and get another high draft pick.
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itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2021-03-31 9:41 AM (#777473 - in reply to #777091)
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Don't worry. With Quinn coaching that will happen anyway.
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PV29
Posted 2021-04-01 10:44 AM (#777477 - in reply to #777091)
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When you play every game within your division, every game becomes a "4-point" game. Catching Boston requires that the Rangers win their remaining two games with the B's.

The Rangers need to sweep the 8 games with Buffalo and NJ. Win 2 against Boston. Then at least split the remaining 11 games (22 points) against Philly, Isles, Pens and Caps. 67 points may be enough to catch Boston.

In the meantime, the young players will get experience playing in pressure situations, where every game is important. So whether they catch Boston or not, the season will have been beneficial to the development of the team.
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Kakko # 24
Posted 2021-04-01 10:54 AM (#777478 - in reply to #777091)
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Your breakdown is fair and accurate PV, with the biggest and best point being your last one regarding experience gained regardless of whether or not they catch Boston.

When you look at Boston, they also have 8 games remaining against Buffalo and NJ (6 of 8 are against Buffalo). If they get 14 of 16 points that puts Boston at 55 points with 14 games remaining to pick up 12 points using your #'s (assuming we go 4-0 points wise in our two remaining head to head matchups). So it is going to be very difficult to catch Boston even if we have a whole heck of a lot break right.

But either way, go play hard, put up as many points as possible, and gain as much experience as possible. That's the key.

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PV29
Posted 2021-04-06 10:57 AM (#777668 - in reply to #777091)
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Worst case scenario last night, Philly and Boston went to OT, each got a point, Philly got the extra point to go up by 2 points over the Rangers.

Boston is not impressive right now. They're thin on defense and the Bergeron line is the only line that's a threat to score. Boston will be shopping hard at the deadline for a winger to compliment Krejci and a top 4 defenseman. There are a number of rentals that fit their needs and whether they get what they need or not will have an impact on whether the Rangers can catch them or not.

Boston/Philly rematch is tonight. A regulation loss by Boston would help.
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x10003q
Posted 2021-04-06 11:22 AM (#777670 - in reply to #777091)
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NHL 3 point games kill the trailing teams. It makes it difficult to catch up. The Rangers have a steep road that is almost impossible. The Rangers are +4500 to win the Cup.
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LaFrenger
Posted 2021-04-07 10:54 AM (#777772 - in reply to #777670)
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x10003q - 2021-04-06 10:22 AM

NHL 3 point games kill the trailing teams. It makes it difficult to catch up. The Rangers have a steep road that is almost impossible. The Rangers are +4500 to win the Cup.




As you well know All they can do is worry about themselves, and let the other teams do what they do. Rangers are quite capable of getting on a big roll. Interesting it’s kinda the same scenario as last season winding down Rangers heat up. Last year they probably get in the playoffs if their season didn’t get cut short. This year will probably run out of games. The good news is they have a excellent starter goalie, a set group of forwards and Lundqvist added to the back end going into next year. Another tweak or two on defence and they should be a solid playoff team.
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Fish
Posted 2021-04-07 1:09 PM (#777776 - in reply to #777091)
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The Rangers have 18 games left, and sit tied for 5th place with 41 points.

1. 54 - Capitals ( 39 GP ) - 2 more meetings - 6 points in the six games since I started this thread
2. 54 - Islanders ( 39 ) - 5 more meetings - 6 points in five games
3. 50 - Penguins ( 39 ) - 1 more meeting - 6 points in five games
4. 46 - Bruins ( 36 ) - 2 more meetings - 9 points in seven games
5. 41 - Rangers ( 38 ) - 7 points in six games
6. 41 - Flyers ( 38 ) - 2 more meetings - 7 points in six games
7. 32 - Devils ( 37) - 4 more meetings - 4 points in five games
8. 24 - Sabres ( 38 ) - 2 more meetings - 8 points in six games

No one really breaking free here, in fact since I started the thread the Sabres have been the most productive in terms of points per game, with the Bruins unfortunately having the most points , though they have also played a game or two more. The real challenge though is no one has really made any headway or dropped significantly.

The Bruins remaining schedule:
4 v WAS (2 home, 2 away)
3 v NYI (3 home)
2 v PIT (2 away)
2 v NYR (2 home)
1 v PHI (1 away)
2 v NJD (2 away)
6 v BUF (3 home 3 away)

If Buffalo can keep up their improved play, it might be a bit tougher, but you'd also expect some trades at the deadline that might put them back into a death spiral

The Penguins are a longer reach, their schedule looks easier than the Bruins or Rangers, and they have 8 of their last 17 at home where they've been really good. They only have 4 games remaining against the other top 4 teams tho.
2 v WAS (2 away)
2 v BOS (2 home)
1 v NYR (1 away)
3 v PHI (1 home, 2 away)
5 v NJD (3 home, 2 away)
4 v BUF (2 home, 2 away)

The most unlikely would be the Rangers sweeping the remaining games against the Isles, which would be a 10 point turnaround, putting them 3 points behind with a game in hand. Almost impossible to imagine at this point, but if by some chance they could do that, then it would make things interesting. Mind you they'd have to be all in regulation.
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LaFrenger
Posted 2021-04-07 5:05 PM (#777777 - in reply to #777776)
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Fish - 2021-04-07 12:09 PM

The Rangers have 18 games left, and sit tied for 5th place with 41 points.

1. 54 - Capitals ( 39 GP ) - 2 more meetings - 6 points in the six games since I started this thread
2. 54 - Islanders ( 39 ) - 5 more meetings - 6 points in five games
3. 50 - Penguins ( 39 ) - 1 more meeting - 6 points in five games
4. 46 - Bruins ( 36 ) - 2 more meetings - 9 points in seven games
5. 41 - Rangers ( 38 ) - 7 points in six games
6. 41 - Flyers ( 38 ) - 2 more meetings - 7 points in six games
7. 32 - Devils ( 37) - 4 more meetings - 4 points in five games
8. 24 - Sabres ( 38 ) - 2 more meetings - 8 points in six games

No one really breaking free here, in fact since I started the thread the Sabres have been the most productive in terms of points per game, with the Bruins unfortunately having the most points , though they have also played a game or two more. The real challenge though is no one has really made any headway or dropped significantly.

The Bruins remaining schedule:
4 v WAS (2 home, 2 away)
3 v NYI (3 home)
2 v PIT (2 away)
2 v NYR (2 home)
1 v PHI (1 away)
2 v NJD (2 away)
6 v BUF (3 home 3 away)

If Buffalo can keep up their improved play, it might be a bit tougher, but you'd also expect some trades at the deadline that might put them back into a death spiral

The Penguins are a longer reach, their schedule looks easier than the Bruins or Rangers, and they have 8 of their last 17 at home where they've been really good. They only have 4 games remaining against the other top 4 teams tho.
2 v WAS (2 away)
2 v BOS (2 home)
1 v NYR (1 away)
3 v PHI (1 home, 2 away)
5 v NJD (3 home, 2 away)
4 v BUF (2 home, 2 away)

The most unlikely would be the Rangers sweeping the remaining games against the Isles, which would be a 10 point turnaround, putting them 3 points behind with a game in hand. Almost impossible to imagine at this point, but if by some chance they could do that, then it would make things interesting. Mind you they'd have to be all in regulation.



Playoffs probable? No. Possible? Anything is possible. If they went 14-4 with minimal three point games with anybody but Buffalo or Jersey. Then that’s about all they can do. Probably would still need some help including Boston playing less than .500 for the rest of the season with minimal single points. These kinda deals the Rangers are facing its work boots on, worry about winning your games it’s all you can do. And hope you get to those last two games with Boston and have a shot.
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Cap'nMess
Posted 2021-04-08 4:42 AM (#777778 - in reply to #777772)
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LaFrenger - 2021-04-07 12:54 PM

x10003q - 2021-04-06 10:22 AM

NHL 3 point games kill the trailing teams. It makes it difficult to catch up. The Rangers have a steep road that is almost impossible. The Rangers are +4500 to win the Cup.




As you well know All they can do is worry about themselves, and let the other teams do what they do. Rangers are quite capable of getting on a big roll. Interesting it’s kinda the same scenario as last season winding down Rangers heat up. Last year they probably get in the playoffs if their season didn’t get cut short. This year will probably run out of games. The good news is they have a excellent starter goalie, a set group of forwards and Lundqvist added to the back end going into next year. Another tweak or two on defence and they should be a solid playoff team.


Don't forget the beef!!

They need some REAL physicality on 1 or 2 of their lines. Players that are hard on the forecheck and punish the defense after dumping pucks into the corners. We have enough talented east to west players, now get a couple of north to south players.
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LaFrenger
Posted 2021-04-08 6:33 AM (#777779 - in reply to #777778)
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Cap'nMess - 2021-04-08 3:42 AM

LaFrenger - 2021-04-07 12:54 PM

x10003q - 2021-04-06 10:22 AM

NHL 3 point games kill the trailing teams. It makes it difficult to catch up. The Rangers have a steep road that is almost impossible. The Rangers are +4500 to win the Cup.




As you well know All they can do is worry about themselves, and let the other teams do what they do. Rangers are quite capable of getting on a big roll. Interesting it’s kinda the same scenario as last season winding down Rangers heat up. Last year they probably get in the playoffs if their season didn’t get cut short. This year will probably run out of games. The good news is they have a excellent starter goalie, a set group of forwards and Lundqvist added to the back end going into next year. Another tweak or two on defence and they should be a solid playoff team.


Don't forget the beef!!

They need some REAL physicality on 1 or 2 of their lines. Players that are hard on the forecheck and punish the defense after dumping pucks into the corners. We have enough talented east to west players, now get a couple of north to south players.


Physicality comes easier for some guys. Rangers when on their game play at a speed that most teams can't play at. Pittsburgh looked like they were skating in mud last game. They got guys that can get in on the forechek. Its just a matter of being on their game. Now if your talking a Clark Gillies type or two that can beat the crap out of anyone and score 30 goals then I wont argue that.
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Posted 2021-04-11 1:43 PM (#777995 - in reply to #777091)
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