One year $4.5 mill. ???. UFA at end of season unless he gets signed this season which is very doubtful. If he has a bad year Rangers won’t want to. If he is playing as usual his Agent is well aware there will be a lot of interest. If he has a strong season up goes the value. Kiss him goodbye.
I think Lindgren wanted a long term deal and Drury was hesitant to do that because of durability and quality of play concerns. So yeah it could backfire, but I think it could also be bad to give him anything beyond 4 years.
i love how hard he plays, but he cerainly didn’t have a great year last season, and maybe the injuries are starting to take a toll
In reality, Lindgren is a 2nd pair Dman. He plays with Fox on the top pair because they are butt buddies. His size and durability are a question. His toughness is not. If he thinks he deserves 1st pair money then he should go try the market. Rangers have enough salary cap mistakes and don't need one more. But I would trade him before I let him walk for nothing.
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He has been a fit with Fox because the Rangers really have had no other options. And its catching up to Fox with opponents taking liberties. Florida was relentless. Lindgren may play tough and gritty but he brings very little stepping in for Fox. I know its getting to be a by gone part of the game, a Beukeboom riding shotgun for Leetch, but hey at times its needed. I don't think its a secret the Rangers could use a upgrade especially the dishing out physicality, looking after Fox. In a perfect world and based on his contract, Trouba might have been the fit. But its apparent Drury is setting himself up for a deadline where his hands won't be tied by cap restraints. And a part of that flexibility will be dumping Lindgren by the deadline. I hope Drury realizes he has to replace him and especially with the right type, because if Jones is third pair the already to small dcorp will get run out of the playoffs.
If Lindgren would have done a $5 mill per for 4 years and totally tradeable ya sign him, but who knows what the numbers are.
I'm very concerned about this re tread defense corp.
Fox is a pussy
Lindgren is undersized and injury prone
Trouba is overpaid trash
Miller hasn't improved and gets beaten like a rented mule
Schneider is meh
and the 6th dman (whoever that is) is like a 7th or 8th
They aren't any better than last year and that wasn't good enough
Other than that they are fine
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He has been a fit with Fox because the Rangers really have had no other options. And its catching up to Fox with opponents taking liberties. Florida was relentless. Lindgren may play tough and gritty but he brings very little stepping in for Fox. I know its getting to be a by gone part of the game, a Beukeboom riding shotgun for Leetch, but hey at times its needed. I don't think its a secret the Rangers could use a upgrade especially the dishing out physicality, looking after Fox. In a perfect world and based on his contract, Trouba might have been the fit. But its apparent Drury is setting himself up for a deadline where his hands won't be tied by cap restraints. And a part of that flexibility will be dumping Lindgren by the deadline. I hope Drury realizes he has to replace him and especially with the right type, because if Jones is third pair the already to small dcorp will get run out of the playoffs.
If Lindgren would have done a $5 mill per for 4 years and totally tradeable ya sign him, but who knows what the numbers are.
Trouba on the right is an adventure in itself, putting him with Fox out of position would be a disaster IMO. Besides which, Trouba has never been a shutdown guy, he's actually been a solid 2-way defensemen who can hit...but his footspeed and decision making with the puck are weaknesses. I rightly see him off the team at the end of this season.
On Lindgren I'd say the thing he lacks is size. If you had a bigger version of Lindgren, then I think I'd be fine, but with Fox, that pair is undersized. He doesn't have the size to displace a player off the puck, and he doesn't have the reach of a guy like Miller. I think he's done a pretty good job, but the Rangers need more than Trouba and Lindgren now if they want to compete. Some of that will hopefully come from Schneider, but they'll need to find ways to upgrade Lindgren or Trouba as well.
I got to disagree with a lot that's being said here. Lindgren is the perfect pairing with Fox. Fox is a slow skater. Lindgren is the fastest Dman skater on the team. Fox is soft. Lindgren plays hard. Lindgren is everything Fox lacks. I don't think being a couple of inches taller and 10lbs heavier means much, when he plays like 6'-2"/210.
I do agree that a long term deal would be a mistake. Think Dan Girardi.
He has been a fit with Fox because the Rangers really have had no other options. And its catching up to Fox with opponents taking liberties. Florida was relentless. Lindgren may play tough and gritty but he brings very little stepping in for Fox. I know its getting to be a by gone part of the game, a Beukeboom riding shotgun for Leetch, but hey at times its needed. I don't think its a secret the Rangers could use a upgrade especially the dishing out physicality, looking after Fox. In a perfect world and based on his contract, Trouba might have been the fit. But its apparent Drury is setting himself up for a deadline where his hands won't be tied by cap restraints. And a part of that flexibility will be dumping Lindgren by the deadline. I hope Drury realizes he has to replace him and especially with the right type, because if Jones is third pair the already to small dcorp will get run out of the playoffs.
If Lindgren would have done a $5 mill per for 4 years and totally tradeable ya sign him, but who knows what the numbers are.
Trouba on the right is an adventure in itself, putting him with Fox out of position would be a disaster IMO. Besides which, Trouba has never been a shutdown guy, he's actually been a solid 2-way defensemen who can hit...but his footspeed and decision making with the puck are weaknesses. I rightly see him off the team at the end of this season.
On Lindgren I'd say the thing he lacks is size. If you had a bigger version of Lindgren, then I think I'd be fine, but with Fox, that pair is undersized. He doesn't have the size to displace a player off the puck, and he doesn't have the reach of a guy like Miller. I think he's done a pretty good job, but the Rangers need more than Trouba and Lindgren now if they want to compete. Some of that will hopefully come from Schneider, but they'll need to find ways to upgrade Lindgren or Trouba as well.
Totally agree about Trouba with Fox in a imperfect world.
But If he was 6'2 210 does that mean he would play lime 6'4 230?. I've never heard he was the fastest Dman on the Rangers before but if he is the rest of the D Corp is S_L_O_W....he plays against a lot of forwards who are bigger stronger and faster than him and the Rangers top pair has a problem along the boards.... it's no secret and really gets magnified in the playoffs.I got to disagree with a lot that's being said here. Lindgren is the perfect pairing with Fox. Fox is a slow skater. Lindgren is the fastest Dman skater on the team. Fox is soft. Lindgren plays hard. Lindgren is everything Fox lacks. I don't think being a couple of inches taller and 10lbs heavier means much, when he plays like 6'-2"/210.
I do agree that a long term deal would be a mistake. Think Dan Girardi.
The Rangers need a big strong defence man that opposition forwards know is going to crunch them in the corners. He doesn't have to be a great skater just not get caught out of position (uhummm like Miller). To me there is nobody on D that I wouldn't trade if the phone rang.
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I recall reading Drury offered 2-3 yr deal at about the same amount. Lindgren wanted a 5 year deal at $5 mil or more.I think Lindgren wanted a long term deal and Drury was hesitant to do that because of durability and quality of play concerns. So yeah it could backfire, but I think it could also be bad to give him anything beyond 4 years.
i love how hard he plays, but he cerainly didn’t have a great year last season, and maybe the injuries are starting to take a toll
Some seem to think Miller should play with Fox, but that pairing scares the hell out of me for some reason.
Both Miller and Fox should play with dollsSome seem to think Miller should play with Fox, but that pairing scares the hell out of me for some reason.
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I got to disagree with a lot that's being said here. Lindgren is the perfect pairing with Fox. Fox is a slow skater. Lindgren is the fastest Dman skater on the team. Fox is soft. Lindgren plays hard. Lindgren is everything Fox lacks. I don't think being a couple of inches taller and 10lbs heavier means much, when he plays like 6'-2"/210.
I do agree that a long term deal would be a mistake. Think Dan Girardi.
Fox and Lindgren never match up well with bigger forwards. They are both undersized. Lindgren's incredible toughness and tenacity cannot make up for 2 undersized dmen. They are both routinely giving up 20-30 pounds. It would be better for Lindgren to have a bigger partner and I would say the same for Fox.
Not that this matters - but I think Miller is the fastest dman, but who knows?
Dan Girardi only missed 5 games from ages 23 - 30, playing 82,82,80,82,46 out of 48 (lockout), 81,82. He then played 2 more years with the Rangers playing 74 and 63 games before going to TB where he played 77 and 62 games. Girardi only missed 32 games in his 10 full ranger seasons. Girardi started wearing down in the last season or 2 with the Rangers yet still managed to play 2 more seasons in TB.
Lindgren has yet to play 1 full season. Starting with his age 21 season, 60, 51, 78, 63, 76. That is 80 games missed in his prime years. Unfortunately, the size difference matters. The Rangers are worse without him on the ice, but if he is missing all these games in his 20s due to injuries, it will only get worse as his career continues. Playing with Fox is shortening his career.
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The Rangers are going to win or not with Fox, Lindgren, Miller and Schneider, like it or not. They are moving none of them unless Lindgren gets dealt at the deadline. It’s Jones and Trouba that are the ones need replacing. Trouba too much money, and Jones to small and they have Fox and don’t need a mini me. Big boys are out there that can help, it’s up to Drury to figure out how to get them. He’s the one that’s getting the coin.
And while he’s at it he can review the last three years and wake up to the fact his vaunted power play sucked at crunch time. And he’s done nothing to address that leaving it up to Laviolette to get one of the top if not top playoff forwards on the PP. Lafreniere in competition with Trochek for top playoff forward has to be on that number 1 power play. His game could explode this year if on it and won’t if he’s not.
Unfortunately the reality of the cap world is after the July 1st free agent period and accompanying trading your roster is set. And very difficult to change. So wrap your head around this is the team. And that’s on Drury.
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