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CuyllRanger
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For Will Borden a 2025 3rd round pick and a 2025 6th round pick. You’re going to own this Drury you moron. You got air. Grow a set of nuts and trade the problem next time. 

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Topic starter Posted : 18/12/2024 7:30 pm
Gerard Gallant
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Nobody wants the problems

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Posted : 18/12/2024 7:35 pm
Doug Glatt
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young problems are easier to trade than old problems with big contracts and nmc's/ntc's.

I think this makes room for Othmann

 

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Posted : 18/12/2024 7:56 pm
CuyllRanger
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Posted by: @gerard-gallant

Nobody wants the problems

 

I hear you, Arther Staples says very little interest in Kreider who is non existent 5 on 5. So Drury trades a guy off arguably the Rangers best line, at least  up until Laviolette put them in a blender and gets another 7-8 defensman. 

 

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Topic starter Posted : 18/12/2024 7:57 pm
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Posted by: @cuyllranger

For Will Borden a 2025 3rd round pick and a 2025 6th round pick. You’re going to own this Drury you moron. You got air. Grow a set of nuts and trade the problem next time. 

Methinks the problems are unfortunately untradable. Glad I’m not flying this airplane.  

 

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Posted : 18/12/2024 8:09 pm
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Posted by: @gerard-gallant

Nobody wants the problems

At least not at fair market value.....I'm sure GMs are sitting back waiting to fleece the Rangers big time.

 

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Posted : 18/12/2024 9:04 pm
CuyllRanger
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Posted by: @mjolnir

Posted by: @gerard-gallant

Nobody wants the problems

At least not at fair market value.....I'm sure GMs are sitting back waiting to fleece the Rangers big time.

 

 

Drury has created the market. 

 

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Topic starter Posted : 18/12/2024 9:20 pm
CuyllRanger
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This article posted below and it’s in the articles on the right side of the page pretty much nails the grade for both teams. A underwhelming return for Kakko but again Drury has put himself in that position. The Rangers can be faulted all the way back to Kakko getting drafted, and unlike smart teams who always made sure they had a countryman or two on the roster for high Euro draft picks, the Ranger had a couple Finns here for only a very brief cup of coffee and left Kakko to fend for himself.

For every positive in Kakko’s game “can hang onto the puck” there is a negative “no physicality”. So he’s still capable of making Drury and the Rangers including Laviolette look stupid,  just as he’s capable of showing that Drury and Laviolette were right. Time and a new environment will tell that tale. An environment without the expectations New York had, might just loosen his game up. 
And in the article the good point the Rangers got kids coming and need cheap ones to setup future UFA signings. Kakko is going to cost Seattle more than the Rangers would have wanted to pay so there is that. 
The real negative in all this is Drury needs to shut up and quit getting himself into fire sale trades. Another one coming with Kreider if he has the jam to do what’s right. 

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10147807-nhl-trade-grades-kaapo-kaako-dealt-by-rangers-to-kraken-for-will-borgen-and-picks

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Topic starter Posted : 18/12/2024 9:41 pm
SteadyEddie
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I can’t go along with the status quo here, for I thought that Kakko sucked. Alex Wennberg lite. Good defensively. Horrible with the puck and not at all physical. How did he fare in last year’s playoffs? Good riddance. A waste of a #2 pick. Glad we got more than a bag of pucks back. 

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Posted : 18/12/2024 10:00 pm
x10003q
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Kakko was never going to be signed by the Rangers. He is rounding out to be a useful middle 6 wing but he does not have enough offensive touch to make up for the main thing the Rangers are missing - checking. Some guys have checking ability - Kakko does not have it.

The 2nd pick millstone around his neck did not help. He was the consensus second pick (some thought he should be first over Hughes). Hard to blame the Rangers for the pick. Here we are, 6 years/330 games into his career, he is what he is.

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Posted : 18/12/2024 11:01 pm
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Posted by: @cuyllranger

This article posted below and it’s in the articles on the right side of the page pretty much nails the grade for both teams. A underwhelming return for Kakko but again Drury has put himself in that position. The Rangers can be faulted all the way back to Kakko getting drafted, and unlike smart teams who always made sure they had a countryman or two on the roster for high Euro draft picks, the Ranger had a couple Finns here for only a very brief cup of coffee and left Kakko to fend for himself.

For every positive in Kakko’s game “can hang onto the puck” there is a negative “no physicality”. So he’s still capable of making Drury and the Rangers including Laviolette look stupid,  just as he’s capable of showing that Drury and Laviolette were right. Time and a new environment will tell that tale. An environment without the expectations New York had, might just loosen his game up. 
And in the article the good point the Rangers got kids coming and need cheap ones to setup future UFA signings. Kakko is going to cost Seattle more than the Rangers would have wanted to pay so there is that. 
The real negative in all this is Drury needs to shut up and quit getting himself into fire sale trades. Another one coming with Kreider if he has the jam to do what’s right. 

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10147807-nhl-trade-grades-kaapo-kaako-dealt-by-rangers-to-kraken-for-will-borgen-and-picks

This!   If Drury has given up on this season, he doesn’t need to telegraph it to the World.  The guys he wants to break off will be worth more as the deadline approaches and other teams drive the prices up, hopefully. 

 

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Posted : 18/12/2024 11:10 pm
Fish
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Drury showing he is not very good at trading in the NHL.  Kakko is better than the combination of Will Borgen, a 3rd and a 6th.  Borgen won’t even be here next year so it’s really just the picks…which are likely to amount to nothing.

he would have been better off playing Kakko more and waiting until the deadline…but then again this is the mess he created so yeah

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Posted : 19/12/2024 12:04 am
Rangerjunkie
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Now Laviolette should scratch Kreider and Zib, then they might want to be traded

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Posted : 19/12/2024 8:01 am
Itsmcilrathtime
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@fish You're not thinking it through fully again Fish. Borgen is exactly the type of defenseman that teams covet at the deadline. Especially if a long term injury pops up to a contender. He has size, is physical, is a UFA next season and can play, playoff hockey. I would not be surprised to see him go for a 2nd and a 4 in this years or next years draft. Perhaps even for a center prospect and a 3rd and 5th. Drury has to prove he's not a complete moron. Borgen, Lindgren, Vaakananien and Miller are all very likely to be traded at the deadline. Defenseman always bring back deadline picks. Carrick will also be in super high demand. He's tough, defensively responsible and is winning 59% of his draws. Not sure they want to move him but they will be tempted.

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Posted : 19/12/2024 11:06 am
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SteadyEddie
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Posted by: @fish

Drury showing he is not very good at trading in the NHL.  Kakko is better than the combination of Will Borgen, a 3rd and a 6th.  Borgen won’t even be here next year so it’s really just the picks…which are likely to amount to nothing.

he would have been better off playing Kakko more and waiting until the deadline…but then again this is the mess he created so yeah

Completely disagree. We just became tougher to play against. Borgen has size and is physical. Insiders say that Drury has been targeting him for a while. Kakko was offensively challenged, and not physical enough. Not a top 6 player, and if you are not top 6, you need to be physical and tough to play against… IMO

And please also take into consideration, Drury just unloaded $8 million of suck, and got something in return. In Drury I trust. 

 

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Posted : 19/12/2024 11:17 am
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