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Doug Glatt
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So if Trouba is traded to a team that is not on his no trade list and fails to report does he forfeit his contract?

 

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Posted : 02/07/2024 6:28 pm
CuyllRanger
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Posted by: @pierre_pdare

So if Trouba is traded to a team that is not on his no trade list and fails to report does he forfeit his contract?

 

 

 

Suspended without pay.

 

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Posted : 02/07/2024 11:51 pm
CuyllRanger
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The more you think about this the more incompetent Drury's handling appears. ""Disclaimer I'm not 100% it went down this way""

Instead of  advertising the fact he was going to try to trade Trouba by requesting his No Trade List early, why not wait til 8AM July 1 for it. Trouba quietly submits his list. And then finalize a trade if not a team on the No Trade List. Or pursue other options trying to lock something up, operating under some obvious media scrutiny, but probably not near as much as he generated by asking for the list early. He also gave Trouba's Agent the ability to come up with the least favourable trade list for Ranger trading ability. AKA Trouba's Agent puts Detroit on the list of No Trade Teams.

According to all the reports the plan was trade Trouba and sign someone's to UFA contracts July 1. So why put the whole negotiation under the intense scrutiny Drury created, by asking for the early No Trade List. 

Wouldn't it have been better to get the list and get something done July 1 in the A.M. Nothing stopping him from trying to have some deals on the table prior to hoping one or more would have been with Teams not on the No Trade List. 

Now he has to recover from no trade the day he wanted it to happen, to facilitate a signing or two of players now no longer available at zero asset cost. Now stuck at, even if he dumps Trouba he is going to have to trade to acquire the NEEDED improvements to get on a level playing field with Florida, and a few very improved Eastern Conference teams notably Jersey.

Further complicating all this, is the stuff about Trouba's wife. Is any NHL G.M. dumb enough to offer some type of No Trade Clause continuance once expired because of the players Wife's career? Are you kidding? Terrible incompetence to not even take that into consideration if true. As mentioned ""disclaimer"" applies so who really knows, but something is holding this up, and Drury is ass deep in all of it.

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Posted : 03/07/2024 9:05 am
Doug Glatt
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All the top UFA's agreed to contracts before 7/1... It was too late by then.

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Posted : 03/07/2024 11:27 am
Fish
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I think the core point is that Drury tried to do this without being clear with Trouba up front...perhaps he anticipated there would be issues, and tried to avoid them, but clearly his strategy didn't work...or wasn't thought out.

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Topic starter Posted : 03/07/2024 2:09 pm
CuyllRanger
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Posted by: @pierre_pdare

All the top UFA's agreed to contracts before 7/1... It was too late by then.

 

He could have had arrangements with multiple teams to dispose of Trouba. And implemented one of them at 9.05 am July 1 or bought him out or waived him.  No matter how he should have been gone.  And Drury could have made his own  prior to July 1 agreements, with UFA's  like other teams.  No big deal to exceed the cap with a signing while waiting to dump Trouba. So not to late. Either way no excuse for advertising a early ask for his no trade list. Amateur stuff when a GM doesn't even know if he can move a player.

 

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Posted : 03/07/2024 2:28 pm
Fish
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Vince Mercogliano did bring up that maybe "The Rangers" which I took to mean Chris Drury, are developing a bit of a reputation, and causing some questions in the lockerroom.  I had written about it yesterday (on the home page), but Mercogliano mentioned that the Goodrow move upset some (including of course Goodrow), and with this Trouba thing, it's just amplified it.

He also brought up how Jim Ramsay was dealt with and then no tribute when he came back as causing some stir...and of course there's reports of him getting in to heated exchanges with Kravtsov and Gallant over the past couple of years too.

I think it's one thing to be ruthless, but if you leave out the human element then you run the risk of creating an environment where people just start to turn up versus actually want to turn up.  I guess it's not completely unsolvable...I mean Vegas seems to be operating without a care in the world as it throws away guys left and right in the pursuit of an end goal, but I wonder how sustainable that is over a longer period.

https://twitter.com/vzmercogliano/status/1808602564906090896

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Topic starter Posted : 03/07/2024 3:58 pm
Doug Glatt
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Posted : 04/07/2024 4:12 pm
CuyllRanger
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Buy him out. Lindgren taking the Rangers to arbitration opens another buyout window for the Rangers. I wonder what it cost Drury to get Lindgren’s camp to take them to arbitration so he can buy Trouba out. And you heard it here first. The extra asset to get a team to take Trouba in a trade can now go towards getting a team to take his future cap hit. Which in reality is what Trouba wants, so he can get paid twice. Probably the Isles or Devils on a cheap contract, just to rub it on. This is a direct result of shooting pieholes off about early no trade lists. 
Drury could have waited for July 1 and got a trade done, before Trouba even knew. Could have still signed any UFA’s he wanted and exceeded the cap til the trade went through. But now of course Gorton gave his wife a no trade clause. And let’s not forget who was the Asst GM. 
I’m betting his wife has no plans on attending games next year. 

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Posted : 05/07/2024 11:54 pm
CuyllRanger
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Posted by: @Anonymous

Seriously, why do the Rangers keep turning to untested guys like Drury and David Quinn to run the hockey club?  Why doesn't Dolan ever hire top hockey management?

 

Good question. This whole mess is on Drury. Along with more than a couple trades that brought in warm bodies not helpful players.  

 

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Posted : 06/07/2024 8:16 am
mjolnir
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Posted by: @Anonymous

Seriously, why do the Rangers keep turning to untested guys like Drury and David Quinn to run the hockey club?  Why doesn't Dolan ever hire top hockey management?

Because anyone with an ounce of hockey sense will not work for Dolan.

 

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Posted : 06/07/2024 11:36 am
mjolnir
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Posted by: @fish

I think the core point is that Drury tried to do this without being clear with Trouba up front...perhaps he anticipated there would be issues, and tried to avoid them, but clearly his strategy didn't work...or wasn't thought out.

Considering the way reporters are walking back their stories, I have to wonder if things really happened the way they reported.  Remember -- Drury is VERY close mouthed about most everything and keeps his cards to the vest.  Personally, I suspect that this was the work of Trouba's agent.

 

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Posted : 06/07/2024 11:41 am
x10003q
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Posted by: @Anonymous

Seriously, why do the Rangers keep turning to untested guys like Drury and David Quinn to run the hockey club?  Why doesn't Dolan ever hire top hockey management?

Glen Sather says hi!

He's the hockey jeenyus who had Dolan's ear for the last 24 years. Never got blamed for anything.

Was hired as  President/GM June 1, 2000 resigned as GM July 1, 2015 and remained President until April 4, 2019.

He hired Bryan Trottier as the Rangers Head Coach. He lasted 54 games.

It took until 2006 for the Rangers to finally make the playoffs under Sather's watch.

1 Cup final- 2014. Rangers lost 4-1.

The We Suck at Hockey Letter came out Feb 8, 2018. How come Dolan did not fire Sather then????? The shitshow was all on his watch! Sather remained President for another year! Then, 3 years later, in the middle of the rebuild, Dolan fires Gorton and JD but not Sather. JD had only been there for about 19 months! Sather continued to operate as an advisor and alternate Governor until his recent 'retirement'. So for 24 years Sather has been involved at the highest level of the Rangers Org Chart - what have the Rangers achieved?

Dolan gave Sather the keys to the Rangers, the keys to the money and in return there has been 1 cup final.

Fucking Horrible.

 

 

1 Cup in 84 years
2048

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